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THey changed the rule that only COLORED discs may be thrown at the end. THere were human players making it into goals with their throws. :D None in the top of the pyramid I dont remember. Did anyone see any shots in the pyramid?

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I hope the lesson is to properly evaluate all the scoring options.

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We had 2 or 3 in Hub City. Human players might have been scoring 1 of 20-25 into either the 2- or 3-point goals in the matches I saw.

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I believe 2848 was the first team at Hub City to shoot a frisbee in the pyramid goal and 4063 did it a match or 2 later. Also, one of the team from Mexico had a human player make one in the pyramid.

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Our shooter was also jammed for auton and the first half of that match. That's why we weren't running cycles.

4124 also had a great method of loading 4 discs quickly, they held 4 at once in a stack and quickly pushed the bottom one into the slot. It's hard to explain, I'll try and find some video of it later.

But running cycles is all about efficiency, how quickly you get back and setup to load, how quick your human player is at feeding, and being very quick to get aligned and get your shots off. I think in one match our great drive team was able to run 7 cycles with a 10 point hang.

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Any other teams human players have problems with the colored covers of the feeder slots falling off? Happened a few times at kettering.

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3003 did it from the floor with their robot on many occasions at FLR.

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Make sure you get re-inspected after you make modifications...

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Something I just learned 5 minutes ago from the Central Valley webcast: Teams who make a major change to their robot(like adding a tall screen for blocking shots during eliminations) must be reinspected before their next match. The whole alliance of 973, 1323 and 4135 were just DQ'd from semifinal 2-1, which they had won. Let this be a lesson to all alliance captains suggesting an alliance member should make a similar change.

EDIT: Ike beat me to it

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This rule has always been in effect for any change, major or minor, at any time in the event. Nothing new.

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I figured that, but I thought it was significant because of all the talk about adding blocking screens to robots in eliminations.

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^^We both know that rule doesn't see as much use as it should, but you're right.

Coming from a team on an alliance that got knocked out from a red card in 2011, teams, READ THE RULES BEFORE YOU SHOW UP. So many people don't do that. It blows my mind.

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There was something we wanted to add to our bot in case we were against certain bots, so we got inspected with them and took them off if they weren't in that match.

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At the Traverse City district event, there was a human player who was extremely consistent, making around 4/6 of the disks each time. Any well trained and well practiced human player could do the same... Until the disks start going into the pyramid goals regularly! Also, I assume human players like him/her were another reason for the rule change.

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I don't think anyone objects to reinspection for major modification such as adding a mechanism (active or passive) per rule T11, but it is impractical to reinspect for every modification. If you follow the letter rather than the spirit of the rules, which of these would *not* require a reinspection?

1. Filing down a corner to give better clearance between parts
2. Replacing a nut with a locknut
3. replacing a faulty motor
4. ziptie several wires together
5. updating a timeout in the code
6. adding an accelerometer sensor