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Ed Law 04-03-2013 16:04

OPR after Week One Events
 
The OPR/CCWM numbers have been posted, please see

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2174

There are a number of points I would like to make:

1) Central Valley data is incomplete, finals results not published, team results not accessible from "Query" tab. I will include Central Valley data in future weeks when data becomes available.
2) Central Valley data OPR data is included since we only use qualifying round match results
3) OPR for auto, climb and teleop are calculated similar to last year. They are in each regional/district tab in column AA to AC.
4) World OPR/CCWM ranking is calculated. However since there are no interactions between teams playing in one event with teams playing in another event yet, the numbers should be very close to their OPR/CCWM number from the one event. It is not very meaningful right now. I am showing it for completeness.
5) All future events links have been added. You will be able to refresh and recalculate OPR/CCWM at every event if you have internet access.

If you find any error or have any questions, please let me know.

Alpha Beta 04-03-2013 16:53

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Thanks Ed for setting this up. We look good in numbers. :)

Top 10 overall winning margin
Code:

1986        60.0
610        51.0
3015        48.2
245        44.3
11        42.6
3931        41.7
4451        40.9
3173        40.9
48        34.1
862        34.0

Top 10 autonomous OPR
Code:

1986        28.7
70        22.9
11        16.4
1918        16.4
3501        16.3
2590        16.1
133        16
4124        15.6
3974        15.5
3656        15.2

Top 10 climbing OPR
Code:

1277        32.2
4819        31.6
213        28.0
4451        27.0
1991        25.3
61        24.2
340        19.2
1168        17.6
3196        16.8
539        16.6

Top 10 teleop OPR
Code:

3173        37.9
610        36.4
1986        33.9
131        31.3
245        29.9
2590        27.8
3015        25.7
1640        24.7
862        24.7
11        23.8


Akash Rastogi 04-03-2013 17:42

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
MORT looks good in numbers too! :) What's crazy is that people at Palmetto let 11 and 245 even pair up! 4451 was also fantastic. Great rookie team for 2013.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta (Post 1243547)
Thanks Ed for setting this up. We look good in numbers. :)

Top 10 overall winning margin
Code:

1986        60.0
610        51.0
3015        48.2
245        44.3
11        42.6
3931        41.7
4451        40.9
3173        40.9
48        34.1
862        34.0

Top 10 autonomous OPR
Code:

1986        28.7
70        22.9
11        16.4
1918        16.4
3501        16.3
2590        16.1
133        16
4124        15.6
3974        15.5
3656        15.2

Top 10 climbing OPR
Code:

1277        32.2
4819        31.6
213        28.0
4451        27.0
1991        25.3
61        24.2
340        19.2
1168        17.6
3196        16.8
539        16.6

Top 10 teleop OPR
Code:

3173        37.9
610        36.4
1986        33.9
131        31.3
245        29.9
2590        27.8
3015        25.7
1640        24.7
862        24.7
11        23.8



ttldomination 04-03-2013 17:53

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
I forget, what's the difference between OPR and CCWM now?

Grim Tuesday 04-03-2013 17:54

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
1.) Pyramid range shooters lead AUTO
2.) Full court shooters lead TELEOP
3.) Climbers lead CLIMB points

No surprises here.

Though I would expect this to change in the coming weeks. As defense adapts to these playstyles, I think pyramid range shooters teleop points will only climb (no pun intended) and as the powerhouses unveil, jacks of all trades will start to dominate climbing.

PayneTrain 04-03-2013 18:14

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta (Post 1243547)
Thanks Ed for setting this up. We look good in numbers. :)

Well you also won your event so I guess that helps :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by ttldomination (Post 1243595)
I forget, what's the difference between OPR and CCWM now?

Calculated Contribution to the Winning Margin (if you have the file look at cell F31 on the query sheet)

Anupam Goli 04-03-2013 18:19

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1243587)
MORT looks good in numbers too! :) What's crazy is that people at Palmetto let 11 and 245 even pair up!

Don't remind me of my mistake....

Was hoping our week 1 performance would give us a top 10 opr worthy look, but now that we're rolling into week 2, we likely won't see this list.

ttldomination 04-03-2013 18:43

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1243604)
Calculated Contribution to the Winning Margin (if you have the file look at cell F31 on the query sheet)

I see that. My question still stands, how are the two metrics different?

- Sunny G.

Siri 04-03-2013 18:56

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ttldomination (Post 1243617)
I see that. My question still stands, how are the two metrics different?

- Sunny G.

It's intended to take defensive contributions into account by using the winning margin rather than the points scored. Ed's got a thing on the math; the first file on the CD Media page he linked.



Wow. I cannot believe what I'm seeing right now. This is so cool! /dork


Thanks, Ed and Akash.

Jaxom 04-03-2013 20:09

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1243596)
1.) Pyramid range shooters lead AUTO
2.) Full court shooters lead TELEOP
3.) Climbers lead CLIMB points

Except 610 (at least from the videos I saw) and 1986 are both pyramid shooters, and are numbers 2 & 3 on the teleop list.

vikesrock777 04-03-2013 20:45

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1243671)
Except 610 (at least from the videos I saw) and 1986 are both pyramid shooters, and are numbers 2 & 3 on the teleop list.

610 is capable of shooting from the pyramid as well as full court shooting. Both are showcased in this video from their final match of the weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNDNXdb0Vy8

I agree with what you're getting at though, you don't have to be a full court shooter to put up some of the best teleop numbers, 1986 being a prime example of this.

Jaxom 04-03-2013 21:32

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vikesrock777 (Post 1243680)
610 is capable of shooting from the pyramid as well as full court shooting. Both are showcased in this video from their final match of the weekend.

Very nice; I guess I don't watch enough video. I wonder if I can find someone to pay me to do so...pesky day job.

Did they start getting blocked, and just do pyramid during the finals? Or did I see just the aberrations?

MagiChau 04-03-2013 21:34

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1243705)
Very nice; I guess I don't watch enough video. I wonder if I can find someone to pay me to do so...pesky day job.

Did they start getting blocked, and just do pyramid during the finals? Or did I see just the aberrations?

From my interpretation if they thought they could shoot without being impeded they would do full court shots. Otherwise, they will do pyramid shots. Their full court shooter is deadly accurate when they do run it though.

Akash Rastogi 04-03-2013 22:43

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1243623)
Thanks, Ed and Akash.


Quick correction: Ed and Aaron* :) My post was quoting Aaron.

1640 looked solid at Hatboro, I'm happy a couple of the teams on Aaron's lists are from MAR.

Grim Tuesday 04-03-2013 22:48

Re: OPR after Week One Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1243671)
Except 610 (at least from the videos I saw) and 1986 are both pyramid shooters, and are numbers 2 & 3 on the teleop list.

Agreed, some of the best pyramid shooters can lead teleop but 3173 (exclusive) and 610 (optional) were both full court shooters as far as I know. Like I said, I expect this to change the more prevelant defense gets. 3003 absolutely shut down 3173 in the seminfials at FLR with their arm and anyone tall could do that. However, qualifications are luck of the draw, so expect full court shooters to be seeding high as they won't always have a competent defender against them.


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