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jspatz1 10-03-2013 12:30

Re: Wild Card 2013
 
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Only qualifying at a prior 2013 event will do it.
And that qualification must be from winning the event, not from awards, if I understand correctly.

cgmv123 10-03-2013 12:49

Re: Wild Card 2013
 
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Originally Posted by jspatz1 (Post 1245921)
And that qualification must be from winning the event, not from awards, if I understand correctly.

Incorrect, any qualification from this season creates a slot.

Kevin Sevcik 10-03-2013 13:00

Re: Wild Card 2013
 
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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1245919)
Is it just qualifying at prior events that opens up slots or winning previous events and then getting another spot that opens up slots? Like, did 4451 open up a Wildcard slot at Orlando this weekend because they have won the RAS 2x this year? If they did, this would get 125 to championships; and they are extremely deserving.

You have to have qualified at a prior event (RAS counts) and then WON an event to open up a Wildcard slot at the even you've won.

Again, look at the Wildcard Worksheet and actually work it for the regional in question.

PVCpirate 10-03-2013 13:55

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Thanks Basel, that would have saved me some work if I hadn't done it already before checking the thread.:D

jspatz1 10-03-2013 14:47

Re: Wild Card 2013
 
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Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1245927)
Incorrect, any qualification from this season creates a slot.

...as long as the second qualification is a win, not an award.

cgmv123 10-03-2013 15:48

Re: Wild Card 2013
 
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Originally Posted by jspatz1 (Post 1245995)
...as long as the second qualification is a win, not an award.

The qualification to create a slot has to be a win. The previous qualification can be an award or a win.

PVCpirate 16-03-2013 21:06

Re: Wild Card 2013
 
Since 1986 won in Kansas City earlier today, we have our first wildcard qualifier, team 1939!

Basel A 17-03-2013 02:14

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I attached a file that includes all teams that have qualified for the Championship during this season (and therefore all teams that can open wild card spots in their later events). It also shows those teams' Week 4 events. Finally, how each team qualified, in a separate worksheet.

1 wild card spot was opened in Week 3. Congratulations to 1939, who earned a spot opened by 1986 at Kansas City as the Finalist Alliance Captain.

6 teams have qualified twice, though only one has opened a wildcard spot:
118
128
1208
1986
3990
4451

There's a number of teams that could open wild card slots in Week 4. I'll list them here:
Bayou: 118
Boston: 1100
Central Washington: 2046
Dallas: 148
Queen City: 2783
Sacramento: 1671, 1678
Utah: 359
Waterloo: 610, 781, 1114, 1241, 2056
Wisconsin: 537, 1714, 2062, 2826

If any of these teams are Regional Champions at their respective competitions, they will open a wild card spot for a team from the Finalist Alliance.

AlexD744 17-03-2013 17:29

Re: Wild Card 2013
 
I think you made a mistake in your hub city rookie all-star award. I think it should be 4499, not 1817.

Racer26 17-03-2013 17:58

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What is unclear to me, is the following scenario, which is highly likely in Ontario.

Going into Week 4, we have 5 teams who can open up wildcard slots at Waterloo, and if I was to bet on the outcome of Waterloo's alliance selection, I would guess that at least three of the 5 will be on the top two alliances.

So its likely that Waterloo will generate 2 wildcard slots.

If Waterloo generates two wildcard slots, and those wildcard teams go on to win at GTRWest the following week, do they then generate wildcard slots? They didn't qualify by winning, or an award, but they DID qualify in 2013.

EDIT: Also, going into week 5, GTRWest will have a mountain of teams that could open up Wildcards. Before week 4, and the 6 qualifiers from Waterloo, many of which will likely be going to GTRWest, the teams already qualified in 2013 for CMP attending GTRWest are: 1075, 1114, 1241, 1325, 1503, 2056.

Gregor 17-03-2013 18:08

Re: Wild Card 2013
 
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Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1249217)
What is unclear to me, is the following scenario, which is highly likely in Ontario.

Going into Week 4, we have 5 teams who can open up wildcard slots at Waterloo, and if I was to bet on the outcome of Waterloo's alliance selection, I would guess that at least three of the 5 will be on the top two alliances.

So its likely that Waterloo will generate 2 wildcard slots.

If Waterloo generates two wildcard slots, and those wildcard teams go on to win at GTRWest the following week, do they then generate wildcard slots? They didn't qualify by winning, or an award, but they DID qualify in 2013.

http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default...sheet_2013.pdf

Step 2 states
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‘Qualified for Championship’ means
they were either a member of a
Winning Alliance, won the Chairman’s
Award, won the Engineering
Inspiration Award, won the Rookie
All-Star Award, or earned a Wild Card
slot at a prior event.



Also, there is quite a good chance that a wildcard will go unused at Waterloo. Lets assume 1114, 2056, 610, and 1241 are all on the winners or finalist alliance, 2 on each (which is highly likely). All 4 of these teams are already qualified for championships, which means only 1 team on the finalist alliance will earn a wildcard, and one wildcard slot will be lost in the woods forever.

MechEng83 17-03-2013 18:15

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Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1249224)
...one wildcard slot will be lost in the woods forever.

Unless there's a backup team on the Finalist Alliance.

Basel A 17-03-2013 20:17

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4499's RAS mistake fixed.


I'm guessing that 1/4 to 1/3 of wild card spots generated will go unused and many teams will qualify multiple times without generating qualifications-1 wild card spots. The system has problems. It doesn't do exactly what it's intended to do, but it's a step in the right direction.

Travis Hoffman 17-03-2013 20:21

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Crossroads in Week 6 already has a number of potential Wild Card generators, and more could be on the way.

234
868
1208
1741

I think this rookie event is going to be very competitive and a LOT of fun! :)

holygrail 17-03-2013 20:53

Re: Wild Card 2013
 
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Originally Posted by PVCpirate (Post 1248897)
Since 1986 won in Kansas City earlier today, we have our first wildcard qualifier, team 1939!

Soo excited! Thanks for the well wishes. Also, thanks to Titanium 1986 for being awesome enough to open up a slot for us.


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