2013 Israeli Regional
 

Hi,


Typing this up real quick cause I'm leaving for the venue in a couple of minutes.

So, Israel will finally have a webcast up this year, probably. :)

Webcast link: http://www.firstisrael.org.il/page.asp?page=4021
I also sent the info to TBA so they can add it to gameday.

Israel is an exciting regional with teams from Israel (obviously), California (Team 1836: The MilkenKnights) and Bosnia and Herzegovina (3368 Spirit of the United Neretva).

At least one team (2630 The Thunderbolts, 2010 regional winners) is also playing a regional in the states (washington), 1836 are going on to LA.


Israel is GMT+2, at the time of writing it is 06:30 am (you can check that against the post time to see the time difference). So all you night owls can have fun watching a regional on the other side of the globe :)

Good luck, and see you at the competition!

-Leav

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Wow cant wait to watch. I had so much fun mentoring 1944 back in 2006.

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Anyone else watching?

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Interesting. Looks like the carpet is a different color (North american events the carpet is a similar color to the black gaff tape)

Also, the camera feed seems really dark. Is it actually that dark in the venue?

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I think the carpet is in the same color, it's dark in all the arena except for the playing field...
Really nice competition, you can see my team's climbing in the attached photo

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Caught yesterdays last match.

Looks like quarter finals start in 15 minutes (7am Eastern US time)

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Can someone explain how the tiebreaker was wrong, that caused the QF match replay after the SF started? They explained it in English on the webcast (thanks), but it was brief. This is an interesting situation, that I don't think I have seen before.

Was the tiebreaker wrong due to the automated scoring of autonomous discs being incorrect? If it was wrong couldn't the tiebreaker point just be reversed after the manual count was checked?

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Finals should be starting now, full court shooting ;)

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So miss being there. T. Bray. Former coach 1662.

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Lucas, I was there, heard the explanation in both english and hebrew, and understood nothing.


I was really confused about the way they broke the tie, I had no idea that was the way it was supposed to be done, but I looked it up and it is, section 5.4.4 of the manual:

At first they said the match was a tie, and they awarded a single point to 1574's alliance since they had a higher auton score.

Now I'm thinking the mistake could have been either:

1. They forgot about checking for foul points before auton points
2. They miscounted the number of auton points

The israeli announcer is sportscaster, but he's not very fluent with the FRC rules (perhaps to be expected) so he didn't really convey any information about the nature of the mistake, and certainly didn't say if it was either of the above options.

hope that helps add some info...

-Leav


Lookout for the Israeli teams at st. louis!

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I always thought that tiebreakers were applied automatically by the field/scoring system, is that not the case? Seems like such a system would prevent this issue from happening...

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Hi. I'm the alliance captain of the 8th alliance. The game was not a replay. For some reason FMS messed up the score and it should have been a win for us, because we had more foul points. After we had been "eliminated" we found out that we had actually won the first match, and that we would be playing the 3rd match of that round.

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As the alliance that lost that tiebreaker the second time I got the answer I needed. we had 3 foul points. having foul points is bigger than autonomeus.

Re: 2013 Israeli Regional
 

Hi. I'm the alliance captain of the 8th alliance. The game was not a replay. For some reason FMS messed up the score and it should have been a win for us, because we had more foul points. After we had been "eliminated" we found out that we had actually won the first match, and that we would be playing the 3rd match of that round, which we later lost.

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Are there any videos of the matches from the Israeli Regional? It was well past my bed-time! :o

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Yes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=uNJ3MIAxu30

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Nicely done!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPVb1G1Sg8

This is the last finals game, the net was very effective!

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The Final series was really amazing! only those who were there the whole competition can understand how dramatic that last game was. Miscar (1574) had an amazing robot, a real masterpiece in a way (out of many other bots in this regional, like the one by ThunderBolts (2630), to name one), but sometimes a good strategy can flip everything around. that net, i believe, was installed only 2 games before that. genius! my deepest bow to the winning alliance and the rest of the teams - thanks to you, me and my friends (and a whole stadium, i'm sure) had a blast!
thank you and see you again next year! ^^

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One more video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN0YVwDwTAw

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My favorite game by my team Thunderbolts 2630 was Semi Final 2.2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxXOrl4_xzI

All Team 2630's elimination matches can be watched here: http://www.youtube.com/user/emekhefer2630?feature=watch


See You at DC regional and at St. Louis :)

Good Luck to all teams

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Winning or loosing is not the real value of FIRST. Designing a robot that fulfill all the mission's sub-tasks and play a fair game without an intentional strategy to disturb the flow of the game is much more noble. Imagine that there is a rule that you are allowed to use special shoes and jump with a net in your hands to stop any ball that is on its way to the basket. What a ridiculous game - basketball will turn to be .