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Joe Ross 11-03-2013 19:53

California Rankings
 
As of Week 2, there are 94 California teams that have competed. I used the FiM ranking calculation and applied it to California teams.

I hope to do this each week. Because teams compete in different number of events, I plan to include both the team's highest event and their average number of points. At this point, no CA team has competed in more then one event, so it's not necessary. I'm including any team from CA, even if they compete in event(s) outside CA.

Here's the scoring system, from the FiM Rules Supplement
Code:

POINT CATEGORY POINTS                                        POINTS               
Win-Loss Record in Qualifying Rounds                                                       
Win                                                        2
Tie                                                        1
Final Alliance Captains After Picking                                                       
#1 Alliance Captain                                        16               
#2 Alliance Captain                                        15               
#3 Alliance Captain down to #8 Alliance Captain        14 down to 9               
Draft Order by Acceptance                                                       
#1 Draft Pick (Accepted)                                16                       
#2 Draft Pick (Accepted)                                15                       
#3Draft Pick down to #16 Draft Pick                        14 down to 1                               
Elimination Round Performance                                                       
Winning Alliance Teams:                                                       
Alliance Captain and First Pick                                30                       
Second Pick                                                24       
Finalist Alliance Teams:                                                       
Alliance Captain and First Pick                                20                       
Second Pick                                                16       
Semi Finalist Alliance Teams:                                                       
Alliance Captain and First Pick                                10                       
Second Pick                                                8       
Awards                                                       
Industrial Design                                        5               
Quality                                                5       
Excellence in Engineering                                5                       
Innovation in Control                                        5               
Creativity                                                5       
Entrepreneurship                                        5               
Team Spirit                                                2       
Gracious Professionalism                                2                       
Imagery                                                2       
Highest Rookie Seed                                        2               
Industrial Safety                                        2               
Judges Award                                                2       
Rookie Inspiration                                        2

Congratulations to 1678 to being the highest ranked team in California after week 2. Here are the results:

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Rank        Team        Points
1        1678        68
2        254        61
3        840        59
4        2485        57
5        3501        56
6        3970        54
7        2984        52
8        295        51
9        1538        48
10        399        45
11        3476        42
12        973        41
12        701        41
12        589        41
15        1323        39
16        670        36
17        1138        34
18        1458        33
19        2643        31
19        4322        31
21        4583        30
22        1967        29
22        192        29
24        1671        28
25        4014        27
26        1159        26
27        294        25
27        1422        25
27        4159        25
30        649        24
31        599        23
31        3303        23
33        3495        22
33        4135        22
35        2827        21
35        3669        21
37        2496        20
38        3256        19
38        841        19
38        2543        19
38        4139        19
42        2339        18
42        3925        18
44        2493        16
44        3255        16
46        2135        13
46        4486        13
48        812        12
48        1266        12
48        2102        12
48        3041        12
48        4543        12
48        4695        12
54        1700        11
55        1280        10
55        1622        10
55        1197        10
55        2085        10
55        2813        10
55        3189        10
55        3250        10
55        3486        10
55        3647        10
55        3965        10
55        4619        10
55        4738        10
67        675        8
67        702        8
67        980        8
67        1515        8
67        1572        8
67        2029        8
67        2193        8
67        2761        8
67        3021        8
67        3341        8
67        3408        8
67        3704        8
67        3849        8
67        3952        8
67        4616        8
82        1160        6
82        2658        6
82        2839        6
82        3453        6
82        3749        6
82        4160        6
82        4161        6
82        4711        6
90        581        4
90        1661        4
90        3128        4
90        3967        4
90        4785        4

Let me know if you find any errors.

Eugene Fang 11-03-2013 20:13

Re: California Rankings
 
This is cool stuff. Though I've looked at it in the past, I'm not too familiar with the FiM scoring system. Is there no point value associated with RCA, EI, and RAS?

EricH 11-03-2013 20:18

Re: California Rankings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EugeneF (Post 1246779)
Though I've looked at it in the past, I'm not too familiar with the FiM scoring system. Is there no point value associated with RCA, EI, and RAS?

Nope. Those awards send the team to MSC, but without the robot (unless the robot qualifies too, which often happens).

Allison K 11-03-2013 20:45

Re: California Rankings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1246783)
Nope. Those awards send the team to MSC, but without the robot (unless the robot qualifies too, which often happens).

I think that was the case in the first year of districts, but at this point District Chairman's award teams compete at states with their robot, regardless of other points. Engineering Inspiration and Rookie All Star at district level don't automatically qualify a team for states with their robot, but only district winners are eligible to win the state level award.

ENeyman 11-03-2013 21:06

Re: California Rankings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison K (Post 1246795)
I think that was the case in the first year of districts, but at this point District Chairman's award teams compete at states with their robot, regardless of other points. Engineering Inspiration and Rookie All Star at district level don't automatically qualify a team for states with their robot, but only district winners are eligible to win the state level award.

This seems strange, it almost seems more advantageous to win the Rookie Inspiration Award than the Rookie All Star Award.

Michael Corsetto 11-03-2013 21:27

Re: California Rankings
 
This is really cool, thanks for putting this together Joe! I'm excited to see 1678 in the #1 spot, they've come a long way and have a bright future ahead of them!

Also, I haven't seen this mentioned on CD, but California FIRST is posting a California Top 20 after each week of regionals. You can check it out here. These rankings are poll-based, but kind of fun nonetheless.

Getting pumped for the week 4 CA events!

-Mike

Steven Sigley 11-03-2013 21:31

Re: California Rankings
 
Well dang this is cool. Helps me see what it would be like if California changed to FiC. It's also interesting comparing the opinion polls posted by Mike Corsetto with the FiM rankings.

Big thumbs up for this!

Joe Ross 11-03-2013 21:46

Re: California Rankings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EugeneF (Post 1246779)
This is cool stuff. Though I've looked at it in the past, I'm not too familiar with the FiM scoring system. Is there no point value associated with RCA, EI, and RAS?

I considered adding in points for those awards, but ultimately decided not to, so that the results can be compared to FiM/MAR.

Lil' Lavery 11-03-2013 22:00

Re: California Rankings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EugeneF (Post 1246779)
This is cool stuff. Though I've looked at it in the past, I'm not too familiar with the FiM scoring system. Is there no point value associated with RCA, EI, and RAS?

There are those who feel very strongly that assigning some sort of point value to these awards, particularly the Chairman's Award, would go against everything FIRST stands for. To say that the Chairman's Award is equivalent to X matches won defeats the intent of the award.

dcarr 11-03-2013 22:01

Re: California Rankings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Sigley (Post 1246816)
Well dang this is cool. Helps me see what it would be like if California changed to FiC.

When not if :)

Coming next year or the year after, I don't recall off the top of my head.

Cory 11-03-2013 22:39

Re: California Rankings
 
Not next year.

xSAWxBLADEx 11-03-2013 22:42

Re: California Rankings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Sigley (Post 1246816)
Well dang this is cool. Helps me see what it would be like if California changed to FiC. It's also interesting comparing the opinion polls posted by Mike Corsetto with the FiM rankings.

Big thumbs up for this!

It would be FiNC, and FiSC. (Southern and Nothern)

dcarr 11-03-2013 22:42

Re: California Rankings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1246867)
Not next year.

Ok. I didn't make it to the meeting that was held so I just got the cliff notes.

Steven Sigley 12-03-2013 00:12

Re: California Rankings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xSAWxBLADEx (Post 1246870)
It would be FiNC, and FiSC. (Southern and Nothern)

I'm not so sure they'd split California, I've imagined the whole state would be lumped with Nevada and Hawaii.
And when CA gets the district model do you imagine the championships would be held at Silicon Valley or somewhere else?

Cory 12-03-2013 00:22

Re: California Rankings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Sigley (Post 1246938)
I'm not so sure they'd split California, I've imagined the whole state would be lumped with Nevada and Hawaii.
And when CA gets the district model do you imagine the championships would be held at Silicon Valley or somewhere else?

I don't believe the plan involves NV or HI right now, at least as FIRST sees it. I know the Hawaii teams want to be able to play here (and the Nevada teams too I'm sure). The teams in our area seemed to support making that happen, but HQ did not seem too keen on that plan.


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