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Brandon Zalinsky 12-03-2013 08:29

Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
We have a hopper with a flat, aluminum bottom to bring our frisbees up to our shooter (Here is a picture of the robot). the frisbees stack on top of each other, which means that with a full load of four frisbees, the first three come off from on top of another frisbee. Those three are all accurate. The fourth comes off the flat aluminum sheet at the bottom of the hopper, which causes it to go into the shooter faster, and miss high. We were wondering if it would be legal to cut up/cut holes in one of our practice frisbees, and bolt or rivet it to the bottom of the hopper, on top of the aluminum plate. therefore making the surface from which each frisbee comes from equal.

In short- can we install game pieces on the robot without failing inspection?

rsisk 12-03-2013 08:40

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
I don't think you will have a problem during inspection, but you do stand a chance of a referee mistaking the frisbee that is part of your robot as being one of the four you can control during teleop.

notmattlythgoe 12-03-2013 08:41

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsisk (Post 1247017)
I don't think you will have a problem during inspection, but you do stand a chance of a referee mistaking the frisbee that is part of your robot as being one of the four you can control during teleop.

You could always spray paint it so it is not confusing.

jwfoss 12-03-2013 08:42

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsisk (Post 1247017)
I don't think you will have a problem during inspection, but you do stand a chance of a referee mistaking the frisbee that is part of your robot as being one of the four you can control during teleop.

It's a COTS item and anyone can purchase it. Assuming you are below the weight limit you are good to go. I agree with rsisk, I would consider painting the disc before installation to avoid any potential confusion.

Brandon Zalinsky 12-03-2013 08:48

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jwfoss (Post 1247019)
Its a COTS item and anyone can purchase it. Assuming you are below the weight limit you are good to go. I agree with rsisk, I would consider painting the disc before installation to avoid any potential confusion.

Ok, we'll probably speed-hole it, too, to avoid confusion.

Thanks!

Carol 12-03-2013 09:10

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
From the Q&A - Q501

Q. Can I attach a disc (that has been painted) to my robot as a permenant part of the robot design and function?
2013-02-16 by FRC1885


A. There are no Rules prohibiting this.

Jeff Pahl 12-03-2013 09:31

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carol (Post 1247033)
From the Q&A - Q501

Q. Can I attach a disc (that has been painted) to my robot as a permenant part of the robot design and function?
2013-02-16 by FRC1885


A. There are no Rules prohibiting this.

As an inspector, I would have no problem with a disc being part of your robot. Just be forewarned that another inspector may question it, so I would recommend having a print out of the above referenced Q&A item (from the Q&A web page, not from CD) handy. Make sure to paint it some color besides red, white, or blue, as even with holes in it, with the speed things move on the field it could be hard for the referees to keep track of it otherwise. And you want to make sure that other teams will not have a reason to be asking if your robot was holding 5 discs at times during the match.

Gregor 12-03-2013 14:11

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
2809 had a red frisbee on their robot, it looked like a frisbee guide. If you are only shooting white frisbees, a red or blue frisbee shouldn't be a point of confusion for the referees.

pfreivald 12-03-2013 14:37

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1247185)
2809 had a red frisbee on their robot, it looked like a frisbee guide. If you are only shooting white frisbees, a red or blue frisbee shouldn't be a point of confusion for the referees.

And yet, "shouldn't" isn't "isn't"!

I'd recommend painting it, too...

Gregor 12-03-2013 14:40

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1247193)
And yet, "shouldn't" isn't "isn't"!

I'd recommend painting it, too...

Agreed, no harm in making it more obvious.

nocapitals 12-03-2013 14:50

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
This is slightly different, but last year, our team used a basketball net as part of our robot. It passed inspection every time, they even mentioned it as a creative use of field elements in one of our awards. :)

engunneer 12-03-2013 14:58

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
Then there are the teams that used part of the kit totes as robot parts. Anything in the kit is fair game.

Painting could be an issue if it changes the surface properties too much.

orangemoore 12-03-2013 15:56

Re: Is a frisbee as a robot part legal?
 
If you cut two Frisbee in the same way you could swap out pieces to have it easy to see it is not an actual Frisbee.


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