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Greg Needel

13-03-2013 23:57

Texas Rankings

Similar to what Joe Ross did for California (in this thread) I have applied the FiM ranking system to teams in texas through week 2.

Here are the FiM points system.

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POINT CATEGORY POINTS                                         POINTS                 

Win-Loss Record in Qualifying Rounds                                                         

Win                                                         2

Tie                                                         1

Final Alliance Captains After Picking                                                         

#1 Alliance Captain                                         16                

#2 Alliance Captain                                         15                

#3 Alliance Captain down to #8 Alliance Captain         14 down to 9                 

Draft Order by Acceptance                                                         

#1 Draft Pick (Accepted)                                 16                        

#2 Draft Pick (Accepted)                                 15                        

#3Draft Pick down to #16 Draft Pick                         14 down to 1                                 

Elimination Round Performance                                                         

Winning Alliance Teams:                                                         

Alliance Captain and First Pick                                30                        

Second Pick                                                24        

Finalist Alliance Teams:                                                         

Alliance Captain and First Pick                                20                        

Second Pick                                                16        

Semi Finalist Alliance Teams:                                                         

Alliance Captain and First Pick                                10                        

Second Pick                                                8        

Awards                                                         

Industrial Design                                         5                

Quality                                                 5        

Excellence in Engineering                                 5                        

Innovation in Control                                         5                

Creativity                                                 5        

Entrepreneurship                                         5                

Team Spirit                                                 2        

Gracious Professionalism                                 2                        

Imagery                                                 2        

Highest Rookie Seed                                         2                

Industrial Safety                                         2                

Judges Award                                                 2        

Rookie Inspiration                                         2

I plan on updating this through the season using the teams's first two regional performances. At this point there are 2 teams which have had 2 events (and they are marked with an *). Also many teams have not played.

Code:

Rank                Team                Points

1                148                67

2                118                64

3                4063                63

4                2587                61

5                2789*                60

6                57                54

7                4587                45

8                1801*                43

9                1477                38

10                3310                38

11                2936                37

12                1296                35

13                3847                35

14                4694                35

15                231                34

16                2468                34

17                2848                32

18                624                31

19                4852                31

20                4328                30

21                647                28

22                1429                27

23                704                26

24                3741                26

25                2582                25

26                418                22

27                4552                21

28                4570                21

29                441                20

30                3103                18

31                3366                15

32                4378                15

33                2585                12

34                4589                12

35                4689                12

36                2881                10

37                3335                10

38                3481                10

39                4206                10

40                4300                10

41                4351                10

42                4734                10

43                4853                10

44                3696                9

45                457                8

46                2965                8

47                3730                8

48                4155                8

49                4295                8

50                4298                8

51                4346                8

52                4717                8

53                1865                7

54                3735                7

55                653                6

56                1642                6

57                1817                6

58                2613                6

59                2737                6

60                2882                6

61                2982                6

62                3833                6

63                4280                6

64                4301                6

65                4798                6

66                4799                6

67                3305                5

68                1255                4

69                3035                4

70                3728                4

71                4672                4

72                4639                2

                499                0

                922                0

                1745                0

                1774                0

                2158                0

                2583                0

                2721                0

                2747                0

                2805                0

                2833                0

                2897                0

                2948                0

                2950                0

                2966                0

                2969                0

                2985                0

                3005                0

                3028                0

                3029                0

                3037                0

                3043                0

                3080                0

                3240                0

                3282                0

                3320                0

                3345                0

                3350                0

                3353                0

                3355                0

                3370                0

                3413                0

                3417                0

                3497                0

                3545                0

                3552                0

                3561                0

                3582                0

                3614                0

                3676                0

                3679                0

                3743                0

                3802                0

                3834                0

                3997                0

                3999                0

                4000                0

                4045                0

                4076                0

                4138                0

                4192                0

                4219                0

                4259                0

                4271                0

                4282                0

                4317                0

                4332                0

                4335                0

                4354                0

                4359                0

                4364                0

                4412                0

                4502                0

                4597                0

                4610                0

                4641                0

                4670                0

                4679                0

                4696                0

                4747                0

MattC9

14-03-2013 00:05

Re: Texas Rankings

I know you said there would be changes to this, will chairmans and eingineering inspiration be added to the awards list?

Greg Needel

14-03-2013 00:16

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattC9 (Post 1247950)

I know you said there would be changes to this, will chairmans and eingineering inspiration be added to the awards list?

Right now Chairmans, Engineering inspiration and rookie all-star are not point awards in the FIM ranking system. Those awards qualify you for the state championship to compete for those awards but don't impact the rank as they are listed. When texas moves to the district system I am sure there will be many discussions of how this is handled but for now I am going to leave those awards out of the rankings.

2789_B_Garcia

14-03-2013 03:21

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Needel (Post 1247945)

I plan on updating this through the season using the teams's first two regional performances.

Aww...What if we 3-peat to finals at Alamo? :D

Seriously, though, thanks for putting this together, our team loves data!

Greg Needel

14-03-2013 03:59

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2789_B_Garcia (Post 1248005)

Aww...What if we 3-peat to finals at Alamo? :D

The current method used for FiM is only 2 events count( although I am not clear how it is decided which 2 events). This is because under district systems each team is guaranteed 2 events, and while you can play more it would be unfair to buy your way into the state championship just by attending loads of events.

The real question is when Texas goes to districts how big will the state championship be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2789_B_Garcia (Post 1248005)

Seriously, though, thanks for putting this together, our team loves data!

You are welcome. I like data also. See you at Alamo.

GaryVoshol

14-03-2013 06:46

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Needel (Post 1248007)

The current method used for FiM is only 2 events count( although I am not clear how it is decided which 2 events).

The first 2 districts they attend. 3rd districts are just for practice. Any out-of-state regionals also do not count toward FiM rankings - although they could qualify a team for the Championship.

2789_B_Garcia

14-03-2013 09:57

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Needel (Post 1247960)

Under FiM, how many teams make it to the state championship through the ranking system? If a team qualifies for state with a regional chairman's award, does their robot still compete, giving them the chance to qualify for St Louis through competing?

nikeairmancurry

14-03-2013 10:08

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2789_B_Garcia (Post 1248046)

All district Chairman's award winners do compete at the state championship with the robot. So they have more options of getting to St. Louis, via 1 of 3 Chairman's spots, winning the state championship or qualifiying based on points. The top 64 teams in the state based on points compete at the state championship. So this year 64/207 teams compete, so about 30% of Michigan teams.

scottandme

14-03-2013 10:18

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2789_B_Garcia (Post 1248046)

FiM has 64 teams qualify for the state tournament (out of 207 this year). MAR had 53 at MAR CMP last year (out of 99), and this year it says "at least 50" out of 109. Looks like Texas currently has 140 teams, so assuming a 50-60 team event it would be more selective than MAR but less selective than Michigan.

RCA automatically qualifies your robot to attend the State/Region CMP. EI and RAS were able to attend (sans robot) and set up a booth to compete for those awards.

Coach Norm

14-03-2013 10:47

Re: Texas Rankings

Greg,

You beat me to it. I kept one of these last year for curiosity sake.

Do you have a spreadsheet for the calculations or doing it by hand?

Joe Ross and I were visiting about it.

I asked him how he would handle teams that compete in more than two tournaments? He is keeping one with an average as well for each team.

Very interesting information to look at.

I also wonder if the District model will only include Texas.

See you in San Antonio at Alamo.

lynca

14-03-2013 10:52

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Needel (Post 1247945)

Similar to what Joe Ross did for California (in this thread) I have applied the FiM ranking system to teams in texas through week 2.

Hah ! After seeing the California rankings, I started working on the same data,
Glad to see other people around Texas are thinking along similar lines.

Thanks for posting.

Greg Needel

14-03-2013 12:32

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Norm (Post 1248055)

Do you have a spreadsheet for the calculations or doing it by hand?

I asked him how he would handle teams that compete in more than two tournaments? He is keeping one with an average as well for each team.

Very interesting information to look at.

I also wonder if the District model will only include Texas.

See you in San Antonio at Alamo.

I have a spreadsheet for this, but it still requires a bunch of manual data entry work. I did this while I was sitting on an airplane so time wasn't the limiting factor, that being said I want to clean it up a bit before I would send it out.

I have no idea how the districts will be setup. I have heard rumblings with all sorts of possibilities including what states (or countries) get included and when the change will happen (next year or the following year or beyond).

I look forward to seeing you and your team at Alamo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1248057)

Hah ! After seeing the California rankings, I started working on the same data,
Glad to see other people around Texas are thinking along similar lines.

Thanks for posting.

HA, had I known you were working on it I would have waited to do mine :-P. I think alot of people in the texas region are starting to think districts with all of the rumors floating around.

JohnSchneider

14-03-2013 14:10

Re: Texas Rankings

I imagine we'll probably get Oklahoma, and arkansas included. I doubt Mexico because of the logistical implications. Theyll probably get their own regional once texas and the south moves to district, since they wont be able to come into the district events.

AllenGregoryIV

14-03-2013 14:52

Re: Texas Rankings

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Greg thanks for putting this data together.

Since we're talking about Texas Districts. First I know nothing official except I'm pretty sure we're not going to districts next season.

2nd everyone that's interested should look at what New England is putting together. http://www.nefirst.org/blog/. Their model solves a lot of the problems we would have in Texas with the FiM model. We still don't know if FIRST is going to approve their proposal. It eliminates the requirement for two events before the district championship which would be very difficult on some of our teams from the south and from the west.

Also attached is a graphic that someone (I don't know who) produced that has Texas as a region all by itself and it includes the eventual Super Regionals.

Before we go to a full District system I think we should work on getting a state championship after FRC Championships like Minnesota. http://www.mnfirstregional.org/offseason/mshsl I remember reading about this idea somewhere in the FIRSTinTexas strategic plan but I can't find it now.

JohnSchneider

14-03-2013 14:54

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1248162)

I believe Minnesota's "State championship" is due to the fact that schools are required to have FRC teams in Minnesota now, and so it sort of acts as a UIL sport (without being one). We have the TRR which is pretty much the same thing though!

AllenGregoryIV

14-03-2013 14:59

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn (Post 1248164)

TRR is close but it's still just a sign up and go type event. It also doesn't have the title of being the "Texas State Championship" yet or being exclusive to Texas teams. My main idea with doing something like Minnesota is to get teams used to the point system and having to qualify for events.

2789_B_Garcia

14-03-2013 15:19

Re: Texas Rankings

As an aside, according to our scouting data of the top 25 teams on this list:

22 / 25 can shoot
20 / 25 can climb to Level 1
4 / 25 can climb above Level 1
8 / 25 will be at Alamo

If anyone's interested on the scouting data we collected from Lone Star & Lubbock, just let me know!

itsjustmrb

26-03-2013 14:10

Re: Texas Rankings

Any chance of a Texas Ranking update before Alamo?

JohnSchneider

26-03-2013 14:39

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsjustmrb (Post 1253008)

Any chance of a Texas Ranking update before Alamo?

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

1. 148* 135
2. 118* 131
3. 3310* 115
4. 2936* 84
5. 3487* 80
6. 1477* 79
7. 1296* 77
8. 4063 63
9. 2587 61
10. 2789* 60

2789_B_Garcia

26-03-2013 14:45

Re: Texas Rankings

Sweet, THANKS!

lynca

26-03-2013 14:46

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn (Post 1253019)

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

Thanks for the calculations !
I would guess Cryptonite 624 should be up there in that list as well.

I snipped the few going to Alamo this week.

Quote:

5. 624* 80
6. 1477* 79
9. 4063 63
10. 2587 61
11. 2789* 60

I-DOG

26-03-2013 14:50

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn (Post 1253019)

Not to be a stickler but 118, 1477, and 3847 went out of state for their second regional. Therefore it wouldn't count towards their points total according to FiM ranking system. But if you want to allow their second regional then 624 would have 80 points and be ranked 5th.

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that ;)

JohnSchneider

26-03-2013 14:53

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by I-DOG (Post 1253026)

Eek! I'm sorry! Totally did not mean to skip you guys. But you seem to have fixed the problem for me thanks!

AllenGregoryIV

26-03-2013 18:09

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn (Post 1253019)

Also of note that's not our number, 3487 is pretty good though but from IN.

2789_B_Garcia

26-03-2013 18:46

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by I-DOG (Post 1253026)

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that ;)

Maybe we can be a more conspicuous second pick that way :cool:

Honestly, we are still wrapping our heads around the fact that we are anywhere near being discussed in these rankings! This year has really been a shock to us, in a good way, of course, and we are really hoping that we can bring a wild card into play this weekend ;)

JohnSchneider

26-03-2013 19:53

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1253110)

Also of note that's not our number, 3487 is pretty good though but from IN.

I'm going to have to stop posting while working on math homework. Too many numbers! Sorry.

itsjustmrb

31-03-2013 10:57

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2789_B_Garcia (Post 1253121)

Sorry we were not in a position to help you with a second pick, but I think you would settle for getting to play the wild card ;-)

Thank you Team 2468 and Team 2789 for making the Alamo Regional one of the most exciting set of elimination rounds I have seen. Team 4063 would like to graciously thank you for allowing us to be part of your alliance.

I-DOG

02-04-2013 01:10

Re: Texas Rankings

So earlier today I was working on which 64 teams in Texas would have qualified for the Texas State Championship this year. However, due to my computer committing suicide on me I lost the Excel spread sheet that took me 3 hours to make...

I'll try to recreate the spread sheet tonight and post the rankings tomorrow morning.

Here are somethings that I remember before my computer died:

There were 9 teams between ranks 60-68 with 12 points. This means that we would have had a few tie breakers come into play.

A few Texas teams, such as FRC 4000, do not exist anymore even though they were only in circulation for one year.

Teams that qualified through "District" Chairman's/Engineering Inspiration/Rookie All-star were:

1429
2468
2936
118
4502
4610

The top ten was:
1. 148
2. 118
3. 4063
4. 3310
5. 2587
6. 2468
7. 2936
8. 231
9. 704
T-10. 624
T-10. 3847

Hopefully these small nuggets of info will sate your curiosity for tonight. :D

itsjustmrb

02-04-2013 09:58

Re: Texas Rankings

Greg,

I know you are waaaaay busy, but any chance of a Texas ranking update?

TIA,

Mr. B

I-DOG

03-04-2013 19:39

Re: Texas Rankings

I'm not completely finished but since Mr. B asked for it. Only half of the tie breakers are done and before you ask I'm only doing tie breakers for the top 64 teams. After that it's just too much to ask of me :(

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Rank        Teams        Points        Tie Breakers

1        148        135        

2        118        131        

3        4063        122        

4        3310        105        

5        2587        102        

6        2468        96        

7        2936        84        

8        231        82        

9        704        81        

10        3847        80        1. Elimination Round Performance Points

11        624        80        

12        1477        79        

13        1296        77        

14        57        75        

15        2848        62        

16        2789        60        

17        3802        54        

18        3997        53        

19        4587        45        

20        1429        44        

21        1801        43        3. Draft Points

22        4589        43        1. Elimination Round Performance Points

23        647        43        

24        4610        39        

25        3335        36        

26        3355        35        3. Draft Points

27        4694        35        

28        3103        34        

29        4852        31        3. Draft Points

30        4206        31        

31        4328        30        3. Draft Points

32        3481        30        

33        3545        29        1. Elimination Round Performance Points

34        4641        29        3. Draft Points

35        4300        29        

36        441        28        

37        4354        27        1. Elimination Round Performance Points

38        1817        27        3. Draft Points

39        3735        27        

40        3741        26        

41        4502        26        

42        2582        25        

43        457        25        

44        4282        25        

45        3676        25        

46        3834        25        

47        4359        24        

48        418        22        

49        1745        22        

50        4552        21        

51        4570        21        

52        3696        19        

53        2158        19        

54        3497        18        

55        4335        17        

56        653        16        

57        3366        15        

58        4378        15        

59        3999        13        

60        2585        12        

61        4689        12        

62        1642        12        

63        2805        12        

64        2966        12        

65        3005        12        

66        3679        12        

67        4192        12        

68        4259        12        

69        2833        11        

70        3417        11        

71        4045        11        

72        2881        10        

73        4351        10        

74        4734        10        

75        4853        10        

76        922        10        

77        2950        10        

78        2985        10        

79        4364        10        

80        4597        10        

81        3028        10        

82        3043        10        

83        1255        9        

84        4317        9        

85        2965        8        

86        3730        8        

87        4155        8        

88        4295        8        

89        4298        8        

90        4346        8        

91        4717        8        

92        2583        8        

93        2721        8        

94        3282        8        

95        3370        8        

96        3080        8        

97        3240        8        

98        3320        8        

99        3345        8        

100        3413        8        

101        3582        8        

102        3614        8        

103        4138        8        

104        1865        7        

105        2747        7        

106        2613        6        

107        2737        6        

108        2882        6        

109        2982        6        

110        3833        6        

111        4280        6        

112        4301        6        

113        4798        6        

114        4799        6        

115        1774        6        

116        3037        6        

117        4332        6        

118        4412        6        

119        4696        6        

120        3552        6        

121        3561        6        

122        4076        6        

123        4219        6        

124        3305        5        

125        3035        4        

126        3728        4        

127        4672        4        

128        499        4        

129        2969        4        

130        3350        4        

131        4670        4        

132        3029        4        

133        3353        4        

134        3743        4        

135        4639        2        

136        4271        2        

137        4747        2

2789_B_Garcia

03-04-2013 19:46

Re: Texas Rankings

So...HYPOTHETICALLY speaking...under this model...the top 64 teams would then go to state, and then only 6 could qualify for champs?

....

I-DOG

03-04-2013 19:49

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2789_B_Garcia (Post 1256918)

So...HYPOTHETICALLY speaking...under this model...the top 64 teams would then go to state, and then only 6 could qualify for champs?

....

No. Under this model 27 teams would go to Championship.

QUALIFYING FOR THE FIRST CHAMPIONSHIP
3 spots – one for each of the three State Championship Chairman’s Award winners
3 spots – one for each of the three teams making up the winning alliance at the State Championship
1 spot – for the State Championship Rookie All-Star Award winner
1 spot – for the State Championship Engineering Inspiration Award winner
The remaining 19 qualifying spots will be filled by starting at the top of the re-computed rankings and moving down as far as is necessary to fill the nineteen spots, skipping over teams that are already eligible or scheduled to attend.

2789_B_Garcia

03-04-2013 20:05

Re: Texas Rankings

INteresting...

JohnSchneider

03-04-2013 20:25

Re: Texas Rankings

which is only 3 more than go currently (Albeit some of our spots got to visiting teams, and if by some force of weirdness 148 didnt qualify normally we'd send 25 instead of 24. )

GaryVoshol

03-04-2013 20:32

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by I-DOG (Post 1256919)

No. Under this model 27 teams would go to Championship.

MI gets 27 teams this year based on 207 teams registered.

TX with 140-some teams would get somewhere in the neighborhood of 18-20 teams.

I-DOG

03-04-2013 20:40

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1256954)

MI gets 27 teams this year based on 207 teams registered.

TX with 140-some teams would get somewhere in the neighborhood of 18-20 teams.

Well if I were to assume 8 spots were a given. It would end up around 20 if we do some simple math. 19/207 * 137(#of teams) and we round down for every 10 teams or something like that which would cause us to arrive at 20 Texas teams.

This year only 16 Texas teams qualified for Championship. In my opinion, 20 is better than 16 :D

2789_B_Garcia

03-04-2013 20:44

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by I-DOG (Post 1256958)

This year only 15 Texas teams qualified for Championship. In my opinion, 20 is better than 15 :D

Yup...Hub City and Alamo were good to the out-of-state teams lol

JohnSchneider

03-04-2013 20:44

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by I-DOG (Post 1256958)

Well if I were to assume 8 spots were a given. It would end up around 20 if we do some simple math. 19/207 * 137 and we round down for every 10 teams or something like that which would cause us to arrive at 20 Texas teams.

This year only 15 Texas teams qualified for Championship. In my opinion, 20 is better than 15 :D

Season isn't done ;)

I-DOG

03-04-2013 20:56

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn (Post 1256962)

Season isn't done ;)

The only Texas teams left that haven't qualified and are competing this week are 1477, 3366, 3847. Therefore, even if ALL of these teams qualified for championship it would still not be greater than the amount produced by a Texas district system. 20 is still greater than a max of 19 ;)

artdutra04

03-04-2013 20:56

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1256954)

MI gets 27 teams this year based on 207 teams registered.

TX with 140-some teams would get somewhere in the neighborhood of 18-20 teams.

This is completely the wrong logic to solve this problem.

If all new areas contemplating moving to districts get stuck at the the MI ratio, most areas currently qualify more teams via regionals than they would via this district formula. If this happens, we'll probably never see more districts, because why move to districts and qualify less teams for CMP?

The correct way should be to increase the number of MI qualifying spots (IMHO MI should qualify 25-30 teams as they would currently have 4-5 regionals if they were not districts). Ideally, FIRST should create a universal formula for determining the number of Championship berths a district gets based upon number of teams in that district, so that all current and potential districts are fair and identical in # of CMP berths.

Edit: As a rough pass at a first guessing a formula, I would estimate # of CMP berths = 18% of total teams, rounded up to next integer. Using this formula, the following current and proposed districts would qualify:

MI: 38 teams
TX: 26 teams (currently qualifies 24 via 4 regionals).
CA: 39 teams

I-DOG

03-04-2013 21:04

Re: Texas Rankings

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Getting to the goodies though...

Here are the teams that would have been invited to compete in the Texas State Championship IF it existed this year.

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Rank        Teams        Points        Tie Breakers

1        148        135        

2        118        131        

3        4063        122        

4        3310        105        

5        2587        102        

6        2468        96        

7        2936        84        

8        231        82        

9        704        81        

10        3847        80        1. Elimination Round Performance Points

11        624        80        

12        1477        79        

13        1296        77        

14        57        75        

15        2848        62        

16        2789        60        

17        3802        54        

18        3997        53        

19        4587        45        

20        1429        44        

21        1801        43        3. Draft Points

22        4589        43        1. Elimination Round Performance Points

23        647        43        

24        4610        39        

25        3335        36        

26        3355        35        3. Draft Points

27        4694        35        

28        3103        34        

29        4852        31        3. Draft Points

30        4206        31        

31        4328        30        3. Draft Points

32        3481        30        

33        3545        29        1. Elimination Round Performance Points

34        4641        29        3. Draft Points

35        4300        29        

36        441        28        

37        4354        27        1. Elimination Round Performance Points

38        1817        27        3. Draft Points

39        3735        27        

40        3741        26        3. Draft Points

41        4502        26        

42        457        25        1. Elimination Round Performance Points

43        3834        25        7. Highest Match Score- 116

44        4282        25        7. Highest Match Score- 99

45        3676        25        3. Draft Points

46        2582        25        

47        4359        24        

48        1745        22        3. Draft Points

49        418        22        

50        4570        21        4. Highest Draft/Seed Achieved

51        4552        21        

52        2158        19        2. Best Elimination Round Finish

53        3696        19        

54        3497        18        

55        4335        17        

56        653        16        

57        4378        15        3. Draft Points

58        3366        15        

59        3999        13        

60        4192        12        4. Highest Draft/Seed Achieved- 14

61        4259        12        4. Highest Draft/Seed Achieved- 17

62        3679        12        7. Highest Match Score- 76

63        2585        12        4. Highest Draft/Seed Achieved- 18

64        2966        12        4. Highest Draft/Seed Achieved- 19

It would have been fun to crown the kings of Texas. Maybe sometime in the near future... :rolleyes:

cgmv123

03-04-2013 22:08

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 1256970)

It's supposed to be based on the number of teams Michigan has as a whole versus the number of teams in FIRST ("representation by population"). Since Michigan has 207 teams, which is ~ 8% of the total teams in FRC, they get ~8% of the slots at Championship, or 27 this year.

Texas would get ~19 slots using the same logic.

AllenGregoryIV

04-04-2013 00:50

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by I-DOG (Post 1256975)

It would have been fun to crown the kings of Texas. Maybe sometime in the near future... :rolleyes:

Like all of these teams registering for TRR?

Thanks for putting all this together, hopefully all three of us Texas teams can get our championship number up to where it should be.

GaryVoshol

04-04-2013 06:44

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1257019)

When FiM started, we had 3 regionals so they gave us 18 slots. They totally ignored the point that had we not gone to districts, we would have had to add a 4th regional and thus would have had 24 slots.

We stayed at 18 slots until this year, despite adding about 50 teams over the first 4 years of districts - even when CMP expanded to 400 last year. This year we finally got reallocated 27 slots.

It appears that they will be allocating by representation as future areas go to districts. MAR allocation is also based on team population.

2789_B_Garcia

04-04-2013 08:03

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1257077)

Like all of these teams registering for TRR?

That would be epic! However that would double the size of TRR! 2789 would be up for helping to make that happen, but that would probably mean a change of venue, more volunteers, more sponsors, etc...it would most definitely be epic, though.

lynca

07-05-2013 10:30

Re: Texas Rankings

One of these days we will have an official Texas State Championship.

But for now we have Texas Robot Round-up (TRR) .

Almost all of the top 20 teams in the rankings are attending TRR, except for 57 , 231 , 1429 & 3802 , but maybe they will register soon ...

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Rank Teams Points Tie Breakers
1 148 135
2 118 131
3 4063 122
4 3310 105
5 2587 102
6 2468 96
7 2936 84
8 231 82
9 704 81
10 3847 80 1. Elimination Round Performance Points
11 624 80
12 1477 79
13 1296 77
14 57 75
15 2848 62
16 2789 60
17 3802 54
18 3997 53
19 4587 45
20 1429 44

2789_B_Garcia

07-05-2013 10:40

Re: Texas Rankings

Hopefully they sign up soon...there aren't too many slots left!

JohnSchneider

07-05-2013 10:43

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2789_B_Garcia (Post 1273007)

Hopefully they sign up soon...there aren't too many slots left!

If Kevin misses the cut we're going to have to make collective fun of him.

lynca

07-05-2013 11:52

Re: Texas Rankings

Sometimes conflicts in the schedule arise.... on a more serious note.

Does anyone have contacts for RoboPop 3802 ? it would be nice to confirm that they got the TRR invite.

JohnSchneider

07-05-2013 12:11

Re: Texas Rankings

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1273027)

Sometimes conflicts in the schedule arise.... on a more serious note.

Does anyone have contacts for RoboPop 3802 ? it would be nice to confirm that they got the TRR invite.

Surely hes not going to let his new kid keep him away from Robots ;)

I sent them a PM over twitter but their twitter is pretty inactive.

JohnSchneider

07-05-2013 12:41

Re: Texas Rankings

They responded. They didn't know about it. They do now!

Kevin Sevcik

09-05-2013 12:11

Re: Texas Rankings

Wait, you think I actually have any say in how the team spends money and events it attends? Have you MET Lucia? I'm just this guy that gets robots built, preferably under budget. She's the one actually running things.

Also, yes, unless the TRR is happening next weekend, I'm probably going to be too busy chasing a small human toddling/running around the house. Probably leaving a trail of destruction in his wake. And since his birthday's next weekend...

So yeah. Numerous reasons, including the free Fall Remix invitational, mean the Leopards won't be attending TRR. I know it will be difficult, but I'm expecting you guys to keep it together and at least pretend you're having a fun competition without us.

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