Originally Posted by Alpha Beta (Post 1252886)

As the list of 7-shot autos grows I'm starting to become interested in who also has a 5-shot auto from the wing getting the 2 (minimum) from the center line. It is possible that several of these teams have that as well, but will never have the opportunity to show it in a regional/district. Makes scouting more difficult if we can't see it. :( For those who don't want to tip their hand that they can do it... Film it on the practice field and have the video evidence available to the scouts you wish to influence.

Hoping to see a 7 shot middle, 5 shot wing, 3 shot other wing combo on Einstein. 90 in auto will be most impressive. Seeing two alliances both trying for it with a potential auto crash at the center of the field also highly entertaining. :cool:

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta (Post 1252886)

As the list of 7-shot autos grows I'm starting to become interested in who also has a 5-shot auto from the wing getting the 2 (minimum) from the center line. It is possible that several of these teams have that as well, but will never have the opportunity to show it in a regional/district. Makes scouting more difficult if we can't see it. :( For those who don't want to tip their hand that they can do it... Film it on the practice field and have the video evidence available to the scouts you wish to influence.

Hoping to see a 7 shot middle, 5 shot wing, 3 shot other wing combo on Einstein. 90 in auto will be most impressive. Seeing two alliances both trying for it with a potential auto crash at the center of the field also highly entertaining. :cool:

Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1252893)

987 six shot center line auto, see SD highlights around 23 seconds mark...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crdr08DuuSk

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta (Post 1252918)

987 and 103 were the two teams I'd seen on video. You've inspired our programming team to diversify our repertoire. ;)

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta (Post 1252886)

As the list of 7-shot autos grows I'm starting to become interested in who also has a 5-shot auto from the wing getting the 2 (minimum) from the center line. It is possible that several of these teams have that as well, but will never have the opportunity to show it in a regional/district. Makes scouting more difficult if we can't see it. :( For those who don't want to tip their hand that they can do it... Film it on the practice field and have the video evidence available to the scouts you wish to influence.

Hoping to see a 7 shot middle, 5 shot wing, 3 shot other wing combo on Einstein. 90 in auto will be most impressive. Seeing two alliances both trying for it with a potential auto crash at the center of the field also highly entertaining. :cool:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1253113)

I'm pretty sure it's far easier to defend against a center line auto than it is to actually make one. Driving backwards to the center without floor collection is a 5 min addition to any teams code. I can't imagine the center line autos working that well in the championship elimination rounds.

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 1253123)

But you have to be fast enough to do it. I expect most elimination alliances will have 3 robots shooting for the high goal, and one of them with a 5 or 7 disc auto. This means, in general, one of the "wing" robots will have to shoot their 3 discs off and then beat their opponent to the center. If you mis-judge the distance and cross over the centerline, overshoot and hit them it's an instant Tech Foul (which is worth almost double what those two extra discs would have been).

I agree it's possible, and teams will attempt it (and some will be successful), but it's not quite as easy as a "drive backwards and hit them" type deal.

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1253124)

The defensive team just needs to get their bumpers over the discs, that requires far less accuracy than the team that has to collect the discs. That means it should be done faster than the team lining up for collection. All I'm suggesting is it's far easier than actually scoring them. They only get the tech foul if they completely leave their side of the field and touch another robot which is a large overshoot.

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1253124)

The defensive team just needs to get their bumpers over the discs, that requires far less accuracy than the team that has to collect the discs. That means it should be done faster than the team lining up for collection. All I'm suggesting is it's far easier than actually scoring them. They only get the tech foul if they completely leave their side of the field and touch another robot which is a large overshoot.

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1253124)

The defensive team just needs to get their bumpers over the discs, that requires far less accuracy than the team that has to collect the discs. That means it should be done faster than the team lining up for collection. All I'm suggesting is it's far easier than actually scoring them. They only get the tech foul if they completely leave their side of the field and touch another robot which is a large overshoot.

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1253407)

Still much easier said than done, especially in the heat of an elimination tournament. If the team has some time to test it on the practice field beforehand, sure. It's probably not worth the risk if you haven't had a chance to test it before you're match-up against the center-line loader, though.