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7-Shot Autonomous Club
At our two district events so far, I have yet to see another floor pickup being used in autonomous besides ours, so I'm curious how many other teams are picking up 7 in autonomous? Is anyone out there going for 9?
We currently pickup 7 (new feature in our second district event), but due to occasional loading issues (and a few missed shots and intermittent start-up transients) we usually make 5 or 6 (or during the SJ elims, 3 shots, thanks to a sensor issue). Here's the list so far (I ignored accuracy for the sake of simplicity) 7-diskers: 33 70 341 987 1986 2056 2474 2590 3928 Hopefuls: 624 1241 1678 2054 |
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Go to the thread about 1986, they're autonomous (and everything else) is amazing. They put up the 7 discs in auton easily, I wouldn't be surprised to see them try 9 at some point.
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2056 and 1986 can do 7 disks very well.
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At Kettering Team 70 was attempting 7 disc auton. Which they did get on the practice field. 33 tried at Waterford and 2056 at GTR-E. 1986 has done a 7 disc auton enough times, which a video is on youtube.
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3928, Team Neutrino, also nailed a 7 disc autonomous at Greater Kansas City, and definitely gave Team Titanium a run for their money.
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2056's 7 wasn't terribly reliable. At least not at GTR-E. Usually only good for 5 or 6 (their pickup is a single disc wide that masquerades as being able to deal with 2).
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I think that they would have been working on that during their break and come to Waterloo this weekend ready to always get 7. 1241 only got their auto working for Saturday, and maybe the later matches in Friday, but yes they did seem to get the 2 pretty constantly. If you didn't see their robot in auto, they shoot 3 discs from middle of pyramid (back) and then drive backwards to the middle of the field and grab 2 from the center-line, drive back and shoot 2 more. I can't wait to see how competitive Waterloo is this weekend with all the great robots attending. |
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There is vid floating around the net of a local team doing 7-disc in practice.
Watch Queen City to find out if they pull it off fo' real: http://live.delphielite.com "FIRST Queen City Regional 2013" on USTREAM. |
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987 does a 7-disc mid-field autonomous. This trumps them all.
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624 didn't get 7, but they did 5 consistently and had plans for 7 during peachtree.
During eliminations, 2415 was able to get 6 discs during autonomous, which was the maximum possible for them since they started their robot inside the pyramid and in front of the line. |
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Can anyone who attended TCNJ confirm if 2590 pulled it off there? They came close at Hatboro-Horsham, but I don't know if they ever hit all 7.
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So far from what I've seen 1986 and 987 have the best, most consistent autonomous routines. 254 mentioned that they had a plan to do a 9 shot autonomous, however I haven't seen that happen yet. We've been able to pick up and shoot 5 all but one time however our shooter issues at CVR didn't help with the scoring, if all goes well though we should be consistently getting either a 5 or 7 shot auto at the Sacramento regional.
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I agree, 2056 will probably have the 7 disc working this coming weekend at Waterloo. I can't deny but say we're pushing for 7 as well. Both 987 and 1986 are two of the most efficient robots I've seen that conduct a 7 disc autonomous. Great work by these teams! |
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Hopefully we can get the 7-disc to work in almost all of our matches at North Star. Good luck at champs 1986! |
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I can't wait to see you guys at North Star! |
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We were the only one to use a floor pick up in Auto at Gull Lake. We did 5 disc there and of the matches I watched, we made all 5 at least 3 of the 12 seeding matches and 2 of elimination matches. Most of the matches we made 4 in auto. Sometimes we did not pick up both of the extra two and occasionally we missed one. We are hoping to have a sucessful 7 disc auto for West Michigan and MSC. |
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Seems to me like 1986 or 2056 have both done 7, and they're certainly not moving as fast as they could be. |
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Both would have to 180 to pick them up and then 180 again to shoot them. Given 2056's historical adeptness with a gyro, I would say that doing two 180s and ending up facing the same direction would be trivial for them. Whether they could pick up frisbees, and get back to a position to shoot them would be a much bigger challenge.
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And then there's teams like 2590 and 1241, who could theoretically accomplish the task without ever turning. But neither has hit 7 yet, and I have no idea if 1241 can run over the discs and then still pick them up like 2590 does. |
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The High Rollers have a gimble/turreted shooter on top so I don't think they have to 180. I admired their turret design from last years at Champs. That thing is deadly accurate
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Our robot would be physically able to do 9 without turning, although there isn't enough time in auto and we wouldn't be ready programming-wise anyways.
Our shooter is facing opposite the pickup and we can lift up the pickup to drive over frisbees without moving them. A robot like ours could start behind the pyramid, shoot 3, back up and grab 2 centerline frisbees, shoot, lift up the pickup, drive til it hits the alliance wall, lower the pickup, back up and grab the remaining 4 frisbees, shoot. But all that has to be done in 14 seconds (the last frisbee has to be in the goal before auto ends) I am going to make the call right now that we will never see a 9-disk auto. But I hope I'm proven wrong. |
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We ran 7 shot auto modes throughout the majority of the Chestnut Hill District Event, though we only went 7/7 once (like 33, we are working through some of the difficulties associated with putting the shooter on an arm). Should be better for Vegas :)
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Updated the list.
Regarding 9 shot, I wholeheartedly disagree; I'm confident we'll see one or two teams pull it off :D |
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About getting 9, my opinion, it will happen, it's all a matter of timing. Is there enough time, "yes with a quick bot that is accurate". If someone has the ability to pick up off both ends (forward and backwards) without requiring a 180 spin to pick up and another to shoot, 9 is not out of the realm of possibilities. Can 1986 modify their current/build a scoop for the back-end by Worlds? That is the question. |
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Though it was an allusion that was also a "that'd be cool to see", which is basically as good as a "the Poofs said..." to CDenizens. That it's now impossible makes me think of a sad panda face :( |
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We have a 7 disc that works on our practice field (and worked great before SD, too), but some differences in the two robots caused it to not work well at SD. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFNTAcpugLc&list=UUDACKU0Dcw1ymo4mlOdHQbw& index=8 |
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118 was getting really close to hitting all 7 discs at LSR.
I believe they hit it a few times at Bayou. But I don't have video evidence to confirm. |
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1310 had our 7 frisbee work a few times over the weekend on the practice field at Waterloo, and was successful in scoring all 7 during finals match 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVsG-...IM554Q&index=4 |
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Can't edit my OP anymore, so here's the updated list
A little bird told me that 2054 had their 7 shot up and running, but correct me if I'm wrong :) 7-diskers: 33 70 118 341 987 1310 1986 2054 2056 2474 2590 3928 Hopefuls: 624 1241 1678 2415 |
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As the list of 7-shot autos grows I'm starting to become interested in who also has a 5-shot auto from the wing getting the 2 (minimum) from the center line. It is possible that several of these teams have that as well, but will never have the opportunity to show it in a regional/district. Makes scouting more difficult if we can't see it. :( For those who don't want to tip their hand that they can do it... Film it on the practice field and have the video evidence available to the scouts you wish to influence.
Hoping to see a 7 shot middle, 5 shot wing, 3 shot other wing combo on Einstein. 90 in auto will be most impressive. Seeing two alliances both trying for it with a potential auto crash at the center of the field also highly entertaining. :cool: |
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Didn't quite have enough time to nail it. |
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Our programming team worked EXTREMELY hard, and they deserve all the credit there! I can't even put into words how awesome they are. :) |
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Wow, 987 can shoot from almost anywhere on pyramid, and their mid-field autonomous was amazing to say the least.
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I didn't get a chance to see that many matches from Waterloo, but did 3161 hit their 7 disc auton in a match? I bumped into them on the practice field a few times, and they hit it several times there.
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I agree it's possible, and teams will attempt it (and some will be successful), but it's not quite as easy as a "drive backwards and hit them" type deal. |
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Personally, I don't think it will be that difficult to block, and I expect we'll see a few very strange happenings when someones autonomous code slams into a defender while trying to grab disks and score them.
I think the person attempting to score the disks is probably at a greater risk of crossing the center line; if they don't course correct effectively after meeting a defender, it isn't a stretch of the imagination to see them drive onto the wrong end of the field. |
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We do a 5 disc autonomous and are working on a 7 disc autonomous that should be ready by worlds, check it out at www.dallasfirstvideo.com in any match we played.
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Of course if the center guy is not doing the 7 then even if they block the center line they are still down quite a bit after auto. |
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Add 469, 2337 and 3539 to the list.
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Add 2415 as well.
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Add 624 and 1477 too.
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I'll add 1311 to the list of hopefuls for the 7 frisbee. Got the pick up system working halfway through Smoky Mountains, just didn't have enough time while there to get the tweaks done in programming.
We watched it run on the practice field with the arm to pick the frisbees up about a half inch too high. Software team promised to have that fixed by St Louis, so watch for it there. |
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2415 implimented the 7 disk auto in the eliminations at DC.....and it worked :eek: :yikes: Will need to fine tune it a bit more but we are working hard to improve it.
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Updated for all the new additions, let me know if I've missed any. The list is getting quite large, it's awesome to see this many teams accomplishing something awesome like this. Go programmers! :)
7-diskers: 33 70 118 341 469 624 987 1310 1477 1986 2054 2056 2415 2337 2474 2590 3539 3928 Hopefuls: 1241 1311 1678 3310 |
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1540 was close to a 7-disk. They hit 6 multiple times in OK City.
It looks like 624, 1477, and 3928 from this list will not be attending champs. :( 7-disk auto not a guaranteed win, but it has a high correlation. Still expecting it to be a highly valued commodity at champs. |
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Put 2175 down for hopefuls we managed to get our 5 working at north star but didnt have time to work out all the kinks for our 7 disk routine. By St. Louis it should (hopefully) be ready.
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We found the 7 disk auton to be a highly valuable asset that led us to be selected by the second seeded team in KC and to be seeded first at North Star. I personally expect some of the top seeded teams/alliances at champs to have a seven+ disk auton & can shoot 3's extremely well. Good luck to all the other teams out there going to champs! |
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As stated earlier (by 1986) the 7 point auto may not guarantee a winner, it does make a huge difference in the outcome. Do the math....2 hi goal disk in auto = a full run in tele.....we all have known that since January 5th though. |
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9? How is that even possible in 15 seconds; that would require 2 harvesting trips! :P
We can't do 7, and since our harvester isn't really double-frisbee wide, it's kinda hard to pick up multiple frisbees in atutonomous. But we did manage to have a 4 disk autonomous, and occasionally it would scoop up an extra 5th. Maybe we could have tried getting the ones in front of the pyramid or going for the centerline... but still, the 4 disk auto was good enough to get us the highest autonomous score in the CT regionals. |
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Please add 2122 to the list. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ywq...ature=youtu.be
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On top of having a ridiculous climber, I believe we can now add 254 to the list of 7-disc auto-ers.
They hit all 7 discs for the first time in match 92 of SVR. The twitter feed shows a big auto score that match as well: https://twitter.com/frcfms/status/320605846356754432 Kudos to the Poofs! -Brando |
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Add 1717 to the list as well. They had multiple 7-disc auto matches in Las Vegas this weekend.
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