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Brandon Zalinsky 20-03-2013 08:39

Re: Airzooka
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtengineering (Post 1250431)
and using divine intervention to improve autonomous mode.

Hey, it works! Our team always does magic fingers to encourage a successful auton.

Jaxom 20-03-2013 08:40

Re: Airzooka
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik (Post 1250527)
I'm reminded of Lisa Simpson's tiger repellant rock. First you have to convince me that the robots in that match were actually capable of consistently hitting 3-pointers. Then I might be willing to believe that fan was capable of deflecting hard thrown pyramid shots.

1648 was missing low shooting over that. Combine that with the autonomous results and I must conclude that any nearby tigers are in hiding.

eddie12390 20-03-2013 09:05

Re: Airzooka
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flak-Bait (Post 1250530)
Hey, it works! Our team always does magic fingers to encourage a successful auton.

Even after it has worked consistently all day I still find myself crossing every appendage that I can. I've tried to get other team members to do it, also. My thought is that if we will it hard enough it will suddenly have the most advanced autonomous available and all of the frisbees on the field will just fly into our loader.

Kevin Sevcik 20-03-2013 15:08

Re: Airzooka
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1250532)
1648 was missing low shooting over that. Combine that with the autonomous results and I must conclude that any nearby tigers are in hiding.

First off, you can't compare a hand-aligned, fixed position autonomous shot with a teleop shot lined up in the open field with (apparently) no automated targeting. Autonomous accuracy is much likely to be higher than teleop.

Second, it sure looks like 1648 was missing high for the first volley, then low for the second volley. One would expect a fan would cause consistent high misses.

Sadly, there isn't footage there of 1648 shooting without the fan in front of them. If I had some evidence that 1648 was dead accurate in teleop without that fan, then I would certainly believe the fan was having a significant effect.

PVCpirate 20-03-2013 17:15

Re: Airzooka
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1250532)
1648 was missing low shooting over that. Combine that with the autonomous results and I must conclude that any nearby tigers are in hiding.

You can clearly see the frisbee being pushed up and missing high on the first 3 teleop shots. They only miss low after changing positions to the side of the pyramid, and they have to back up to find a good spot to shoot from.

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Gu8q9ODBU in this match I counted 9 for 12, in 3 cycles (3,4,2 respectively).

EricH 20-03-2013 20:30

Re: Airzooka
 
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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1250471)
I don't know of any teams using them this year.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/38644

You have now been informed of a VERY LARGE fan mounted on a robot by an FRC team. (How it did, I don't know offhand.)

Lil' Lavery 21-03-2013 09:18

Re: Airzooka
 
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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1250763)
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/38644

You have now been informed of a VERY LARGE fan mounted on a robot by an FRC team. (How it did, I don't know offhand.)

Now take a look at their competition robot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy4iNwGEb3k

EricH 21-03-2013 19:45

Re: Airzooka
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1250920)
Now take a look at their competition robot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy4iNwGEb3k

Ah, so they were having a little fun with the posted picture. Wonder if they were testing their shooter against it, on the chance that someone would try it.

GaryVoshol 21-03-2013 22:27

Re: Airzooka
 
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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1251066)
Ah, so they were having a little fun with the posted picture. Wonder if they were testing their shooter against it, on the chance that someone would try it.

I saw them unbag at Traverse City. "Where's the fan?" It was just a joke. The picture was supposed to infer that they could fly to the top of the pyramid.

Calvin Hartley 21-03-2013 22:51

Re: Airzooka
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1251066)
Ah, so they were having a little fun with the posted picture. Wonder if they were testing their shooter against it, on the chance that someone would try it.

We were testing our ability to fly to the top of the pyramid.

Anupam Goli 21-03-2013 23:00

Re: Airzooka
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PVCpirate (Post 1250711)
You can clearly see the frisbee being pushed up and missing high on the first 3 teleop shots. They only miss low after changing positions to the side of the pyramid, and they have to back up to find a good spot to shoot from.

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Gu8q9ODBU in this match I counted 9 for 12, in 3 cycles (3,4,2 respectively).

After that match, I talked to the drivers, and they confirmed that despite the aiming light shining in the sweet spot, the shots were going high as a result of the fan, and when changing positions on the 2nd cycle, they shot thinking "fanbot" was in the way, when it wasn't.

After we got back from palmetto, our students were still riled up about the "fanbot", so much so that they voted to install a fan on the top of the bot, but common sense took over and told them to improve the shooter so that fans wouldn't be a problem in the first place. However, one of our mentors brought a fan into Peachtree as part of our withholding allowance, just in case there was a Dozer on our eliminations alliance ;) .

Dad1279 22-03-2013 15:43

Re: Airzooka
 
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1250474)
I don't have a picture, but I'm almost 100% positive 869 has a giant fan on their robot.

From TCNJ:

compboy07 22-03-2013 18:11

Re: Airzooka
 
No pics here either, but our team also had a giant fan (22" COTS with custom duct and a CIM).
The problem was that you needed to have a significant distance between the fan and the goal and the other robot had to actually be able to shoot over the bot for it to be of much use. We achieved infamy in our regional, but took it off because only about 2 teams had a robot that could shoot over another from midcourt or the other side. The fan had little impact on close range, so we mounted our half-finished shooter instead.

Also: the duct had blinking leds in it. It was epic.


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