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Karibou 22-03-2013 12:36

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Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun (Post 1251027)
I'm not debating that point. I've been to events this year that only had one person counting the frisbees for each alliance for the entire weekend. In such cases, it would have been nice to have some redundancy/error checking in the final counts.

We had two volunteers on each end counting them at the Detroit District last weekend and it worked really well for us. We would tally them as they flew into the goals and take the sheets to the scoring table right after the game ended. If there were any discrepancies between the scorers, we would take the discs out of the goals and count them. It was only really an issue when discs were flying into the goals very quickly (thanks, 469...).

As far as I know, we didn't get any complaints about inaccuracies. I don't know how accurate it was when compared to the results from the sensors, but it seemed like you could tell the outcome of a match as it ended unless the point totals were within 5 or 10 points.

For the record, we had 8 or 9 field reset volunteers, and it worked out well for us. Field reset was definitely more work this time than it has been for the past few years.

GaryVoshol 22-03-2013 21:49

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A person at the score table at Grand Blanc today reports that while discs counted by humans* disagree with the sensor score, in most matches it is only one disc per goal that must be adjusted up or down.

* I believe, but do not know for sure, that they are counting the discs as the goals are emptied. They do a visual count at the end of autonomous.

NXTGeek 23-03-2013 20:16

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FYI, the --real-- high score as of week 4 is Waterloo's 277-81, scored in Q28 by 1114/2056/1846 beating 1241/2200/4039.

Racer26 24-03-2013 11:50

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Originally Posted by NXTGeek (Post 1251611)
FYI, the --real-- high score as of week 4 is Waterloo's 277-81, scored in Q28 by 1114/2056/1846 beating 1241/2200/4039.

That match had 89 foul points in the 277.

The 1114/2056/4069 alliance put up 274 in the semifinals with no fouls.

JB987 24-03-2013 11:58

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Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1251815)
That match had 89 foul points in the 277.

The 1114/2056/4069 alliance put up 274 in the semifinals with no fouls.

Actually, the highest score according to FIRST data is 243 in second quarter final match...still impressive;)

Racer26 24-03-2013 13:30

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You seem to be right, but I'm sure I remember 274 going up. Perhaps a miscounted RTS score. Weird.

Ivan Malik 24-03-2013 13:35

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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1251410)
A person at the score table at Grand Blanc today reports that while discs counted by humans* disagree with the sensor score, in most matches it is only one disc per goal that must be adjusted up or down.

* I believe, but do not know for sure, that they are counting the discs as the goals are emptied. They do a visual count at the end of autonomous.

As one of the counters at Grand Blanc I can confirm this. We not only had people counting the discs as they entered the goals, but also exiting in case of bounce outs, that way we were 100% sure. Elims saw all discs counted out at the end of a match by hand twice by two different people, Quals only if a visual count was hard to do at the end (stacked discs and what not.) Auton discs were counted both during and after auton visually. We tried to think of every angle. With 3 people counting per side, sometimes 4, if the real time was off then we knew the real score.

AluminumNarwhal 29-03-2013 00:50

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During Inland Empire's Practice Match 25, somehow the real-time scoring reported the final score as 42-2817. Interestingly, 2803 of those points were listed as foul points.

xSAWxBLADEx 29-03-2013 01:40

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Originally Posted by AluminumNarwhal (Post 1254153)
During Inland Empire's Practice Match 25, somehow the real-time scoring reported the final score as 42-2817. Interestingly, 2803 of those points were listed as foul points.


dellagd 29-03-2013 02:53

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Originally Posted by xSAWxBLADEx (Post 1254157)
...The picture in the post above...

Go home live scoring system,
You're drunk

But really, the foul points? I...what? Unless some ref didn't realize that his phone was set to vibrate right on top of the foul button, how is an automated system supposed to ever add foul points?

markmcgary 29-03-2013 04:05

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Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1254163)
Go home live scoring system,
You're drunk

But really, the foul points? I...what? Unless some ref didn't realize that his phone was set to vibrate right on top of the foul button, how is an automated system supposed to ever add foul points?

Our bot went rogue and was getting friendly with the blue pyramid. [j/k]

dellagd 29-03-2013 19:39

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Originally Posted by markmcgary (Post 1254164)
Our bot went rogue and was getting friendly with the blue pyramid. [j/k]

If only there were 196 less foul points, then I'd be impressed.

Racer26 29-03-2013 20:37

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my guess? the refs decided to have fun and see how many times they could push the techfoul button in a match.

JoeWithTheSpecs 29-03-2013 22:34

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Pretty certain most people have seen this practice match score already, but here it is anyways;

2803 Foul points here as well? Conspiracy I tell you.

Zebra_Fact_Man 29-03-2013 23:48

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Originally Posted by JoeWithTheSpecs (Post 1254483)
Pretty certain most people have seen this practice match score already, but here it is anyways;

2803 Foul points here as well? Conspiracy I tell you.

28 v 26, that's a pretty close match.
But to look at it another way, we should be impressed that these alliances were able to invoke a 20pt penalty more than once a second for 120 seconds. That's actually a rather impressive feat.


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