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Jash_J 30-03-2013 02:05

Re: Greater Toronto Regional West 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nicholsjj (Post 1254456)
It did perdict the 2056 loss so you have something going here.

I think he's talking about match 48. Where 1310 was predicted to win against 2056 by the system and actually did.

Travis Hoffman 30-03-2013 05:23

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:D
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Originally Posted by Jash_J (Post 1254531)
I think he's talking about match 48. Where 1310 was predicted to win against 2056 by the system and actually did.

My favorite match number was my favorite match of the day. Tough, hard fought battle, but 1310's alliance's defence (shock and amazement) was just effective enough to get the job done.

So...how bout 2056 goes out and plays their darndest to beat 1114 in their faceoff match today to make the final rankings verrrrrrrrry interesting?

Akash Rastogi 30-03-2013 11:08

Re: Greater Toronto Regional West 2013
 
2056 wins match 73 by 2 points! 103-101

bam-bam 30-03-2013 11:09

Re: Greater Toronto West Regional
 
Match 73:

2634-2056-4518 (Blue)
4595-1114-1075 (Red)

103-101 in favor of Blue

shuhao 30-03-2013 11:22

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Prediction's day 2 performance is really bad. It is statistically not better than a random guess.

Bochek 30-03-2013 11:27

Re: Greater Toronto West Regional
 
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Originally Posted by bam-bam (Post 1254580)
Match 73:

2634-2056-4518 (Blue)
4595-1114-1075 (Red)

103-101 in favor of Blue

http://watchfirstnow.com/archive3.php?id=62994658

Michael Corsetto 30-03-2013 12:20

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These matches are awesome, I love watching Canada play.

I was watching 1114's matches, and I noticed in match 30 it looks like their 30 point climb should have been ruled as invalid. As they lift their arm up to grab the first corner bracket, they appear to be off alignment slightly, and the claw hits the side of the upright pole, which is technically in level 2. This puts them in contact with level 0, 1, and 2 simultaneously. Does anyone else see the same thing or am I crazy? Here's the match:
http://www.watchfirstnow.com/archive3.php?id=62954250

I don't know what the final scoring was, so the ref's could have ruled the climb invalid. Can't tell from the scoring.

Also, 1114 is consistently hitting 20 second cycle times. It's a beautiful thing to see.

-Mike

cpeister 30-03-2013 12:30

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Since the online standings aren't updating, the screencap of the alliance selection should be attached.

Gregor 30-03-2013 16:15

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2056 earns #17 in a row, and 1114 earns gold medal 33.

1334's alliance put up a good fight.

wendells 31-03-2013 10:16

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Congratulations to the winning alliance, to 1114 and 2056, thanks for all the assistance when we thought all was lost.
We wish you the best at the World Championship, you have some serious BOT to kick!
To the other Canadian Teams we cheer for you, I know we could do it; as hard as it may seem I would continue with Team 2185, as I would not exclude these kids from the futuristic technology that are at our finger tips.
Thank you FIRST.
We shall be back!

Gregor 31-03-2013 10:26

Re: Greater Toronto Regional West 2013
 
I believe that 771 has joined the rare group of teams to win WFFA, Dean's List Finalist, and the Chairman's award at the same regional.

JB987 31-03-2013 10:56

Re: Greater Toronto Regional West 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto (Post 1254608)
These matches are awesome, I love watching Canada play.

I was watching 1114's matches, and I noticed in match 30 it looks like their 30 point climb should have been ruled as invalid. As they lift their arm up to grab the first corner bracket, they appear to be off alignment slightly, and the claw hits the side of the upright pole, which is technically in level 2. This puts them in contact with level 0, 1, and 2 simultaneously. Does anyone else see the same thing or am I crazy? Here's the match:
http://www.watchfirstnow.com/archive3.php?id=62954250

I don't know what the final scoring was, so the ref's could have ruled the climb invalid. Can't tell from the scoring.

Also, 1114 is consistently hitting 20 second cycle times. It's a beautiful thing to see.

-Mike

I believe you are correct about this particular climb. The margin of error on the claw grab is relatively small (as it is for many other corner climbers by the way) and it is likely that many other climbs with similar corner climbers could be occasionally making contact with the second level corner upright. It is also highly unlikely it will ever be called as it is hard for a ref to see slight contact between claw and bar from the distance away they are standing and during what is sometimes a fast action process. Regardless, this performance and many others rightfully continue to impress:)

GeorgeM 31-03-2013 10:58

Re: Greater Toronto Regional West 2013
 
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Originally Posted by Jash_J (Post 1254531)
I think he's talking about match 48. Where 1310 was predicted to win against 2056 by the system and actually did.

The spreadsheet was created after the 1310 vs 2056 match - I don't think we can definitively prove it was a predicted win.

Karthik 31-03-2013 12:00

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Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1254963)
I believe you are correct about this particular climb. The margin of error on the claw grab is relatively small (as it is for many other corner climbers by the way) and it is likely that many other climbs with similar corner climbers could be occasionally making contact with the second level corner upright. It is also highly unlikely it will ever be called as it is hard for a ref to see slight contact between claw and bar from the distance away they are standing and during what is sometimes a fast action process. Regardless, this performance and many others rightfully continue to impress:)

In rare situations we can contact level 2 while still in contact with the ground. In these cases we always legally restart our climb by ceasing to touch level 2, while remaining in contact with level 0. The following Q&A details the process for legally restarting a climb.

https://frc-qa.usfirst.org/Question/...uching-level-1

When we actually leave the ground the geometry of our arm makes it impossible to be touching the vertical pole in level 2; our claw is only hooked to the knuckle of the pyramid.


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