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arbym 14-04-2013 19:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Citrus Dad (Post 1261813)
We're using a cell phone USB hub to send a signal from our complex of 8 tablets to a server, and then sending a signal from a server to an iPhone app used by our drive team to see our scouting data in real time (we hope.) We're still ironing out the bugs, but we've successfully run a rudimentary system in 2 regionals. Sharing scouting data would be interesting.

I would be very interested in talking with your scouting team to coordinate efforts at Worlds. I would encorouge you to experiment with our scouting and dashboard apps and perhaps integrate our feature sets together into a single app. We are also using android tablets but any device with a browser capable of HTML 5 will work. Phones are not usually a consideration due to the small screens.

GeorgeM 15-04-2013 01:30

Re: Innovators 3138 IPA Scouting System
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Citrus Dad (Post 1261813)
We're using a cell phone USB hub to send a signal from our complex of 8 tablets to a server, and then sending a signal from a server to an iPhone app used by our drive team to see our scouting data in real time (we hope.) We're still ironing out the bugs, but we've successfully run a rudimentary system in 2 regionals. Sharing scouting data would be interesting.

Isn't that illegal under the FIRST Tournament Rules?

iv597 15-04-2013 17:32

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Originally Posted by GeorgeM (Post 1261997)
Isn't that illegal under the FIRST Tournament Rules?

Assuming there are no WiFi networks created in the process, I don't believe so. There seems to be no mention of Ethernet, Bluetooth, 3G/4G, etc. being illegal.

arbym 17-04-2013 18:58

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OK Divisions are posted. We are in the Curie Division so our scouting will be done here. Anyone is welcome to our data but we could use your help. Also, we encourage the teams in other divisions to contact us to get all 4 divisions scouted in a single system.

Remember this is way more than scouting scores for the picking process. This takes the scouting to a whole new level of analysis and strategy.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Dragonking 19-04-2013 19:45

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will the data be open to all teams or just teams that do this scouting. Our team is sticking with our scouting system but it would still be nice to compare it with other data.

arbym 20-04-2013 08:53

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Yes. As always, our data dashboard is avaialble to everyone. Stop by our pit in St. Louis for explanation & instructions. We have Curie covered but still looking for anyone to assist with other divisions.

iv597 23-04-2013 15:54

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A small teaser of the updated dashboard look with one of several enhancements in the works today! Attached...

Also updated within the last week was the scouting interface itself - it now has some data integrity elements behind-the-scenes to be fault-resistant to network speed or connectivity issues, as well as an easier user experience - the transition between Autonomous and Tele-operated periods is now completely automatic, no longer requiring the scouter to remember to switch (a common feedback item we received).

We're still looking for any teams wishing to scout the other three divisions or help with manpower for Curie, feel free to PM Rob or I or drop by our pit in St. Louis Thursday morning if you'd like to contribute to scouting or are curious about our dashboard updates!

arbym 29-04-2013 19:54

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For those of you that played in Curie our dashboard is back up (no password now) so you can go back in and browse around as much as you want. Our team made a conscious decision to temporarily suspend access during Einstein play as to not give the other divisions an unfair advantage with very detailed statistics and information about the Curie teams. We apologize for any inconvience but we felt it was necessary. You can now review the data at the original URL.

I'd also like to personally thank all those teams that provided manpower and great feedback. Your help was invaluable. A BIG THANK YOU from team 3138. You are who made the IPA Scouting System a HUGE success. We would also love to hear any additional feedback and success stories.

Additionally, we'd like to offer access to IPA to any team that has any post season events. Please PM me for details.

Grim Tuesday 30-04-2013 18:38

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I just wanted to say how impressed I am by this. I stopped by 3138's pit this past weekend and was absolutely blown away by the quality of the system, interface, and data collection. It is clear a whole lot of work went into this and I wouldn't be surprised to see our team using it next year instead of a proprietary system we've used before.

Travis Hoffman 30-04-2013 18:55

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Every time I see a response to this IPA Scouting System thread, it always makes me thirsty for some reason. :)

We used it at Queen City and Crossroads, and we're sold. Looking forward to what our friends on 3138 have in store for next year!

$wimmer3138 30-04-2013 22:27

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I propose an idea of using a camera to visually track all six robots. This would then replace the error in the human scouters even though the error was minimal.:D

depth_Finder 01-05-2013 14:31

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Now that the regionals are down, neither the entry or the output seem to work for me. Is this a glitch?

Chris Fultz 01-05-2013 15:21

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This system is incredible - I was shown a demo in our pits, and then played around some after the event. Very well done and exceptional information.

arbym 01-05-2013 15:57

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Originally Posted by depth_Finder (Post 1270801)
Now that the regionals are down, neither the entry or the output seem to work for me. Is this a glitch?

The system is up and operational. There is data for the dashboard for Queen City, Crossroads and Curie Division. Others do not have data.

Dashboard

innovators3138.org/dash

Scouting (please only add data to Newton Division as there is no active REAL data there) with the password Innovators3138

innovators3138.org/scout

iv597 01-05-2013 17:15

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Firstly, thanks to everyone for the remarks - I'm glad to see that even some teams I never got a chance to speak with enjoyed it also!

Secondly, I've now edited the events dropdowns a bit for clarity. Newton, being our "Test" area, is now labeled as such. Archi and Galileo, as we have no data for them, have been removed from the dropdowns for the time being.

Lastly, feel free to also suggest anything you'd like to see added (game permitting, of course) for next year - I've already got a growing list of ideas and would be glad to add some community contributions to that list!


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