Re: championship divisions?
 

That's how it works, given any division. For specifically archimedes, it's one every 64 years.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Well at least Chief Delphi isn't down yet...Come on FIRST!

Re: championship divisions?
 

Assuming its random :rolleyes:

Re: championship divisions?
 

We were in the same division with 1114 from 2005-2011.

Re: championship divisions?
 

I guess I'm wrong. My friend Joel corrected me.

Re: championship divisions?
 

The web pages have been being wonky for days. The division pages specifically were throwing some random errors about two nights ago. I just keep waiting for my text message...

Re: championship divisions?
 

Bite your tongue!

Re: championship divisions?
 

25% chance.
1114 has a 1.00 chance of being on the same field as 1114. 2056 has a 0.25 chance of being assigned to each field. Since one of the 4 has 1114, the total chance is 1.00*0.25= 0.25

If you want to pick a particular field, then it is another 1 in 4 chance, so total is one in 16.

Back in Atlanta, I think they used to pick the two 'strongest' divisions to be on the side facing the VIP areas in the arena. That was Galileo and Archimedes, IIRC. I think this is one reason behind the curie curse.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Anyone want to tell me why http://aredivisionsoutyet.com/ is throwing a 500 internal server error? :O

Re: championship divisions?
 

C'mon guys it isn't hard to figure out.

Art's site scrapes data from FIRST's servers.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Because the first site is down.

Re: championship divisions?
 

They are out.

Re: championship divisions?
 

post it

Re: championship divisions?
 

If you are able to access them, would you be able to screen cap them and post them on here for all of us to see? That would be lovely as the site seems to be down for most of us.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Where?

Re: championship divisions?
 

FMS says divisions are out
https://my.usfirst.org/frc/scoring/i...&ID_event=8941

Re: championship divisions?
 

OH SHOOT

Re: championship divisions?
 

OH BOY!

Re: championship divisions?
 

Divisions appear at the very end of each team's line.

Re: championship divisions?
 

1772 is in Galileo with 1114 & 118 :D, 2056 is in Curie.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Here

Re: championship divisions?
 

Thanks Tom.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Let me be bold: Curie Curse will be broken this year. 67, 2056, 1717 all in Curie.

Re: championship divisions?
 

The time has come to GO NUTS!

Re: championship divisions?
 

Here's the list

Re: championship divisions?
 

Everyone said that last year with 341, 254, 987, and 233 on Curie...

Re: championship divisions?
 

Archimedes is STACKED!

Re: championship divisions?
 

If you add a query to the end of the url you can get one division like this
&division=Archimedes

Re: championship divisions?
 

Massive talent on Galileo.

27, 111, 118, 125, 192, 245, 610, 842, 1114, 1218, 1241, 1675, 1806, 1912, 4039 to name a few.

Re: championship divisions?
 

I am going to sound stupid but, What is the Curie Curse?

Re: championship divisions?
 

Lots of MAR teams in Archimedes.

Re: championship divisions?
 

No matter how good the alliance, something awful always befalls the alliance from Curie and they never win the Championship. (case in point 2010)

Re: championship divisions?
 

Don't forget about 1732! But interjections aside, Galileo is looking to be a fantastic field. Will be fun to play alongside some of the greatest teams in FIRST. See you all in a week!

Re: championship divisions?
 

Looks like 395 teams total.

Re: championship divisions?
 

6 on Newton (25, 225, 303, 341, 1640, and 1676)

Re: championship divisions?
 

Big scoop for everyone here:

All divisions are stacked with talented teams. It's like this is a really big event or something.

I wish you all success.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Edited* I'm bad at counting, nevermind

Re: championship divisions?
 

At least 9: 11, 321, 316, 365, 433, 2016, 2590, 3314 and 4637

Re: championship divisions?
 

Well, so much for that text message...

Re: championship divisions?
 

12 Teams that are 15XX

0 Galileo
2 Archimedes
5 Curie
5 Newton

Interesting :D

Re: championship divisions?
 

This is because the divisions have not been posted on the official FIRST page where i assume Zach gets his info from. Someone pulled them from the FMS page. FIRST's page isn't down due to overloading its been down all day, for an assumed update. Until their out officially on their page I would be skeptical

Re: championship divisions?
 

I know of at least one team that has been given an invite and in the process of accepting that is not on that list.

Wetzel

Re: championship divisions?
 

Ugh. The FIRST pages are loading to slow, and my script isn't able to get to them...

Re: championship divisions?
 

There will probably be a few more teams being added to the list the next few days.

Re: championship divisions?
 

I'm loving the archimedes division right now, with 20, 33, 71, 254, 469, 973, 987, 2590. Lots and lots of floor pickup. We will probably even see another 90 point autonomous.

Curie looks pretty good too, although very different. They have a few high profile floor pickups: 233+359+2056. But they also have 2 of the best fcs: 67+148, as well as 1 of the best cyclers: 1717.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Got the text... :) 1241 is on Galileo... should be a blast! Thanks for the frcmega text updates, really appreciated it when being at school while the team competed!

Re: championship divisions?
 

13 Florida teams

4 Newton
3 Curie
1 Galileo (Poor Lonely Shark Attack)
5 Archimedes

Adding in teams that qualified for a slot in Florida (1772 Brazil, 4091 Dominican Republic, 4451 South Carolina)

5 Newton
4 Curie
2 Galileo (Shark gets their Brazilian Alliance Partner)
5 Archimedes

Re: championship divisions?
 

I just got a text too, but FIRST's site still appears to be down.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Well the FIRST site is back up - unfortunately the divisions aren't linked yet.

Re: championship divisions?
 

The main site's up, but the FRC results system still looks to be down.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Ignore this post.

Re: championship divisions?
 

See attachment. I was bored. I'm sure awesome gee whiz scouting spifftasticness will be published by others eventually.

Very basic, but at least somewhat orderly.

I used a copy of the OPR Results tab from Ed Law's spreadsheet to grab the Max OPR's.

Re: championship divisions?
 

When I got home from work my facebook wall had exploded with people chanting the names of dead scientists.

Did someone say culture change? :cool:

Re: championship divisions?
 

"FMS" page always gets updated before the regular "TIMS" page, sometimes by a great deal of time. Justin & his "source" used this to pull off the best Division reveal IMHO. Revealing team by team, it was like the first FRCTop25 Broadcast.

I'm sure Zach will use the FMS page in the future. FRCMega has been a great addition to our community created apps & services. FMS page would be easier to parse for the an SMS generating script anyway, since it is designed to be parsed by a computer. I personally use the FMS pages all the time anyway. They are way easier to paste into spreadsheets and always on 1 page.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Has anyone been able to figure out an algorithm for the division assignments?

There seems to be a pattern in that international teams are grouped in specific divisions.

Israel: 2 each in Galileo, Newton, and Curie.
Mexico: 3 Archimedes, 2 Curie, but 1 Newton.
Australia: Archimedes, Galileo
Netherlands: Galileo
Turkey: Newton.
Brazil: Galileo

By Team Number:
ACANGAGAGCNGAANNNGCGNGCNGANNCNCGNANNNNGCNNNGNCCCAG AACGNNAAAAGGNNGC

Any guesses?

Re: championship divisions?
 

Canada and The Dominican Republic no longer count as being international good to know 'Merica spread it's borders without me realizing :cool:

But Just to add Canada has 27 teams:
2 Archimedes
8 Curie
10 Galileo
7 Newton

While the Dominican Republic team is in Curie

Re: championship divisions?
 

Substituting T for N, pretty sure we get a transcription of a piece of Dean's DNA... :p

Re: championship divisions?
 

So that's how they assign divisions!

Re: championship divisions?
 

Yeah, I thought about my miss of the Dominican Republic after my post.
My bad.
I was too lazy to parse the Canadian teams. Again, my bad.

Nonetheless, what do you think the powers that be used as an algorithm?
In the past it was a simple ACGN repeating, this year... IDK.
Is there a pattern of Regional winners being equally spread through the divisions?

Re: championship divisions?
 

Nah... it's all in pi.

http://pi.nersc.gov/cgi-bin/pi.cgi?w...on&format=char

Re: championship divisions?
 

Just FYI, with all of the hype about divisions last night, we set a new record for most users online on Chief Delphi, with 918 users online simultaneously.

Re: championship divisions?
 

Wow, no wonder FIRST's servers died for so long...

Re: championship divisions?
 

Whoops, I meant 988. ;)

Re: championship divisions?
 

Don't worry, we'll make Florida proud! And hope to see some Florida friends on Einstein? ;)

Happy to see 1772 in our division though! :)

Re: championship divisions?
 

This has probably been discussed several times in the history of CD, but I'm a relative newcomer. <type=rhetorical>Isn't there something wrong that CD can stay up under a load that brings down the FIRST servers?</type>

Re: championship divisions?
 

CD isn't under the same load as the FIRST servers. The FIRST servers are getting hit by everyone here on CD and by all the people that are not.

Wetzel

Re: championship divisions?
 

<type=rhetorical>You do understand what a rhetorical question is, right?</type> :D

I understand that the FIRST site has more people trying to access it than CD. Adding in the various scrapers that people write, it must have a lot more traffic. Here's the real point: FIRST should know that, and have the appropriate capacity. There was an implied sarcasm tag on my post....

Re: championship divisions?
 

On the first divisions that broke from the ordered numbering of the past, I did a simple analysis. I looked at the teams in sequential order and the streaks of same division. It was very similar to what one would expect in a pseudorandom pick 1 of 4 divisions for each team. If you are curious, I posted my spreadsheet on CD, it would be easy to run again for this year. I figure it is pseudorandom, so I have lost interest.

The whole FIRST site didn't crash, just some parts. The FMS pages never went down, which is important.

Re: championship divisions?
 

So time for more useless data:

The combined team numbers for each division is:

Archimedes: 207649
Curie: 242674
Galileo: 232662
Newton: 211761

Meaning if you average the team numbers you get the following:

Archimedes: 2076 (2007 Team)
Curie: 2427 (2008 Team)
Galileo: 2327 (2008 Team)
Newton: 2117 (2007 Team)

Which implies that Archimedes and Newton average 7 years experience per team while Curie and Galileo average 6 years based on team numbers (I am going through to get the actual years of experience per team to see what the actual result is since numbers don't equal years of experience when you are talking about less than 500)