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MrForbes 16-04-2013 17:02

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1262784)
Nevada...987 and clones (since we are only team from state going to champs this year). :D

Can you borrow your neighbors? We and 842 would be happy to help :)

Joe195 16-04-2013 17:10

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
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Originally Posted by MamaSpoldi (Post 1262837)
I'd have to disagree... a CT alliance without 195 would not be our best. Also 178 is not currently listed as attending Champs. I know they won EI but maybe they opted out??
I would suggest:

175- 5 or 7 auto, gets 2-3 cycles or picks up, 10 point hang
230- 3 auto, 3-4 cycles, 20 point hang - adjustable FCS blocker (if needed)
195- 3 auto, FCS for 3 pt each (very accurate), 10 point hang

Really? Well I didn't check, I thought they were going because of EI too. But I'm factoring in being blocked, which means we can't be as consistent as you three. At least the pyramid you are always safe.

Lil' Lavery 16-04-2013 17:15

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
PA:
341 - When everything is working, they're a top tier ground loader. Has scored 7 auton discs before.
225 - Difficult to block FCS with a super powerful drive train to bulldoze their way to the corner. Can shoot from the pyramid in a bind.
103 - Good scoring machine that has potential to run center line auto. Can also climb for 20 and dump.

HM: 222, 1218, 1640, 1708



VA:
116 - Consistent 3-4 cycle machine that can score from the wings of the pyramid.
422 - 3 cycle machine that can score from the wings of the pyramid
1541- 3 cycle machine that can score from the rear of the pyramid

HM: 1262, 1610
Not at champs: 612, 2363

MooreteP 16-04-2013 17:37

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MamaSpoldi (Post 1262837)
I'd have to disagree... a CT alliance without 195 would not be our best. Also 178 is not currently listed as attending Champs. I know they won EI but maybe they opted out??
I would suggest:

175- 5 or 7 auto, gets 2-3 cycles or picks up, 10 point hang
230- 3 auto, 3-4 cycles, 20 point hang - adjustable FCS blocker (if needed)
195- 3 auto, FCS for 3 pt each (very accurate), 10 point hang


175- 5 or 7 auto, gets 2-3 cycles or picks up, 10 point hang
236- 3 auto, 2-3 cycles, 30 point hang +20 point dump- tall enough to block an FCS.
195- 3 auto, FCS for 3 pt each (very accurate), 10 point hang.

Sorry Laura, Gotta go with the Ticks and their almost guaranteed 50 pts, plus what they can do in auto = 18, plus a minimum of 2 cycles = 24 for a grand total of 92.

Littleboy 16-04-2013 17:40

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
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Originally Posted by Joseph Smith (Post 1262833)
33, 3539, or 2054 put in 7 in auton, then clean up the missed shots (around 10) by 67 before hanging for 10. If they run out of discs they can play defense. They then hang for 10 points. (82 pts)

If up against a FCS, 2054 would be the best of these 3 (ability to extend to 82"). Otherwise, I think 33 has the most consistent auton of them with the other 2 close behind.

thefro526 16-04-2013 17:44

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
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Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1262798)
There are a few different groupings that could work. You could also switch out 316 for 25 (especially if they get their 30-pt climb going, or rework a 40-pt climb-and-dump like 103), and 11 for 1676. And if you wanted a full-court shooter, you could throw in 303.

If I remember correctly, 25 had their climb and dump working in Vegas (not sure if everything actually worked together, but it was all there) the week before the MAR Championship.

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1262840)
PA:
341 - When everything is working, they're a top tier ground loader. Has scored 7 auton discs before.
225 - Difficult to block FCS with a super powerful drive train to bulldoze their way to the corner. Can shoot from the pyramid in a bind.
103 - Good scoring machine that has potential to run center line auto. Can also climb for 20 and dump.

HM: 222, 1218, 1640, 1708

Personally, I think given the opportunity, I'd go with 1640 over 103. 103 is definitely good, but I'm not sure if their style of play would compliment the FCS/Floor Loader Combination well. As I play through a 1640/225/341 scenario in my head, I just see it coming out very well. 1640's to navigate the field quickly and efficiently would leave more than enough space for both 225 and 341 to do what they need to do - and if 225 were to be blocked and/or defended, 1640 is more than strong enough to make up some of the offensive gap - not to mention that they have the ability to feed a floor loader from the opposite end of the field.

JackS 16-04-2013 17:55

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
CT: 195/2168 and then either 230/236 depending on alliance strategy.

NY: 20/4124/3173

MA: 125/126/1100

NH: 131/3467/1519

RI: 78/121/3280

CalTran 16-04-2013 17:55

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
Am I allowed to claim Missouri as a home state? Kansas doesn't have anyone qualified...

Woolly 16-04-2013 17:58

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1262856)
Am I allowed to claim Missouri as a home state? Kansas doesn't have anyone qualified...

Close enough.

Joe195 16-04-2013 18:38

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JackS (Post 1262854)
CT: 195/2168 and then either 230/236 depending on alliance strategy.

NY: 20/4124/3173

MA: 125/126/1153

NH: 131/3467/1519

RI: 78/121/3280

Don't forget 3015 for NY

Pault 16-04-2013 18:47

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
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Originally Posted by JackS (Post 1262854)
MA: 125/126/1153

Looks like 1153 isn't signed up for champs right now, so I think that 1100 would be the best replacement. I am kind of disappointed that it is just a 3 pure cycler alliance.

bnardone64 16-04-2013 19:58

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pault (Post 1262881)
Looks like 1153 isn't signed up for champs right now, so I think that 1100 would be the best replacement. I am kind of disappointed that it is just a 3 pure cycler alliance.

Team 1100 is bringing a floor pickup to St. Louis. I thought 125 also attempted a floor pickup but didn't use it at Boston.

Mongai 16-04-2013 20:13

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1262856)
Am I allowed to claim Missouri as a home state? Kansas doesn't have anyone qualified...

From Kansas: 1448 and 1710 would be a cool team. Excellent climber and fine shooting. If only there were more than two teams going to Champs. ;)

Peyton Yeung 16-04-2013 20:26

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
Indiana: 868, 447, 234

868: a great cycler that dominated both events they went to and has a lot of potential

447: multi disk auton and fast cycling

234: an accurate and fast cycler

Justin Shelley 16-04-2013 20:49

Re: Power State Alliances at Champs
 
This would be my choice of a powerhouse alliance for MO

1) 1986- 7 auto shots, 3-4 cycles, 30 pt climb. 108 pts

2) 3284- when not playing defense, 3 auto, 3 cycles, 10 pt climb. 64 pts

3) 1706- disk auto, 21 fcs at 80%, 10 pt climb, with 2 pyramid shots. 90 pts

1986 will do what they do, be amazing

3284 will put up 18 auto points and be able to push through almost any defense, and when they play defense they have a net that flips up to block FCS or they can block cycling bots with their 2 speed, high traction, 4 cim drivetrain. They can also protect 1706 from being blocked if need be, though I doubt that would be the case.

1706 will put up 18 auto points and then shoot three point FCS with 80% accuracy


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