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DCA Fan 28-04-2013 02:05
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Galileo! What a great division! Rubber matches in nearly every level of eliminations, then taking it to Einstein for rubber matches at both Semi's and Finals. Great job to all the teams!

Galileo 2013: We don't stop playing until we get a rubber match.

LeelandS 28-04-2013 03:23
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1268272)
No, it's not specifically called out as a foul. I can't think of a way to call it as one, either. UNLESS... you could make the argument, somehow, that the transitory property ascribed to the Pinning rule (that is, if there's an object between pinner and pinnee, it's still a pin) also applies to contact with a robot attempting to climb its tower. That would be the only way to even have a chance at calling it, unless someone can dig up a Q&A that says otherwise.

Now, that doesn't seem quite right--after all, they're still interfering with a climb--but that's the way it works.
I guess you could say the transitive property applies here. Though I wouldn't term it like that. While red1 is pushing blue1, blue1's movements are a direct response to red1's actions. When blue1 bumped blue2 during their climb, causing them to fall, it was a result of red1 actions. Red1 should be held responsible. It's a gray area in the rules, but it seems to me a judgement call should have been made to penalize red1's actions.

The point is more or less moot, as I don't believe a 30pt climb + tech foul would have changed the outcome of the match; still, I think it should have been made clear that it was not an okay move.

Joon Park 29-04-2013 20:31
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shrkeatsman (Post 1268053)
so now that the battle is all said and done. Dose anyone know of a place where i can find all the matches recorded from our field? if so could you please link me to it thank you so much
I videoed SF Match 3, the final match for Simbotics. I wonder how things would have turned out if they had beaten the world champions with that 30 point climb.

Basel A 29-04-2013 20:38
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1267840)
QF4-1: Redabot1 pushes Blueabot1 into Blueabot2 who is climbing. Blueabot2 falls off the tower.

Penalty? Refs said no. I feel like it should be a 30pt climb+tfoul.
I thought it should be a penalty when I saw it, but the situation doesn't seem to be accounted for in the rulebook. It definitely looked like a penalty, but in FRC if it looks like a penalty and smells like a penalty, well, unfortunately it might not be.

Louisiana Jones 29-04-2013 21:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 1269595)
I thought it should be a penalty when I saw it, but the situation doesn't seem to be accounted for in the rulebook. It definitely looked like a penalty, but in FRC if it looks like a penalty and smells like a penalty, well, unfortunately it might not be.
We also thought it should have been a penalty because we thought redbot1 pushing bluebot1 into the pyramid would have been a penalty for contacting a robot that was contacting its pyramid, but I was told by some teammates who rewatched the video that bluebot1 never actually hit the pyramid, so there wouldn't have been a penalty for that.... Seems to me like it was a great defensive play....

Racer26 30-04-2013 10:33
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FWIW, the eventual 2013 World Champion alliance (Galileo #5) played the most matches possible in order to win. 610, 1241, and 1477 played their 8 Qualification matches, and then played 15 Elimination matches (9 on Galileo, 6 on Einstein), going to 3 in each set.

indubitably 30-04-2013 10:40
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1269956)
FWIW, the eventual 2013 World Champion alliance (Galileo #5) played the most matches possible in order to win. 610, 1241, and 1477 played their 8 Qualification matches, and then played 15 Elimination matches (9 on Galileo, 6 on Einstein), going to 3 in each set.
They actually only played 14 elimination matches, the Finals of Galileo didn't go to a rubber match. I thought the same thing as you though because the automatic scoring in the second match of finals showed them losing by a significant margin, but they ended up winning regardless. My mind just assumed that it went to a third match or something.

Aren Siekmeier 30-04-2013 21:19
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by indubitably (Post 1269962)
They actually only played 14 elimination matches, the Finals of Galileo didn't go to a rubber match. I thought the same thing as you though because the automatic scoring in the second match of finals showed them losing by a significant margin, but they ended up winning regardless. My mind just assumed that it went to a third match or something.
They also beat us in only two matches in the finals on Galileo, making that only 13 total.

Edit: Nevermind, I should actually read before posting...

indubitably 30-04-2013 21:26
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by compwiztobe (Post 1270476)
They also beat us in only two matches in the finals on Galileo, making that only 13 total.
That is what I was referring to, still totals out to 14.

Galileo:
3 quarters
3 semis
2 finals

Einstein:
3 semis
3 finals

Total: 14

Gregor 30-04-2013 21:31
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by indubitably (Post 1270486)
That is what I was referring to, still totals out to 14.

Galileo:
3 quarters
3 semis
2 finals

Einstein:
3 semis
3 finals

Total: 14
All this and a practice match on Einstein=a whole lotta batteries.

mildew999 30-04-2013 21:39
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Congrats to our Minnesota brothers and sisters King TeC 2169 and Fighting Calculators 2175, along with Laser Robotics 3284 out of Camdenton, Missouri for making it to the finals in Galileo.

Additionally, King TeC, thanks for picking up our flag :) . We'll see you and Fighting Calculators at State.

-- KnightKrawler, Team 2052.

superbotman 01-05-2013 11:43
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Thank you, and no problem.

robotsfan 08-05-2013 09:01
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
There were some intense matches in the elimination rounds. Does anybody have full court videos showing all the action at once they could post?

billylo 08-05-2013 19:41
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
You can find elimination games that alliance #5 - 1241/1477/610 were involved in on Team 610's youtube channel - 2013 champs playlist.

[thanks, Adrian Chan]

nick_sheets 17-05-2013 02:06
Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
Does anyoen have all the matches for galileo?

Thanks!


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