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Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by TheMadCADer (Post 1264857)

What you point out here is something I've seen a lot of people neglecting in their trade-off calculations. 1114's scoring process for the coloured discs takes just as long as it takes for a shooter to fire off 4 three pointers. In the time that it takes 1114 to line up and climb to the top, a good floor pickup can grab 4 discs and line up. I'd say you can add 12 to the floor loader's score, making it 68 to 64.

1114 still comes out with a couple more points, but you can't really have more than one 1114 on an alliance (if you only do 2 coloured discs you come out behind). In the same vein, you can't have more than one 118 or 1477, because the centerline doesn't yield enough points either, and is easy to defend. Limited resources enforce balanced alliance strategies.

That also assumes that the 7 disk autonomous was perfect which from what I'm seeing, most of the time it is not. In fact no team in this division has an autonomous opr more than 30. I think just the reliability of 1114 climb outweighs the unreliability of shooting.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by Boe (Post 1263732)

i know of three without any of my pre scouting done
2169
2512
610

We (1425) are also a full court shooter. And we've been making modifications over the past month to make our shooter even more accurate!

Definitely going to be a must-see division.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by AaronLeondar (Post 1265180)

We (1425) are also a full court shooter. And we've been making modifications over the past month to make our shooter even more accurate!

Definitely going to be a must-see division.

heres a more refined list as my scouting starts to come together

45
70
118
329
610
1325
1425
1806
2169
2485
2512
2630
2729
3528
3941
4069
4334

17 total by my count, a lot of this is based off of the spreadsheet in page 2 of this thread, which is still incomplete. But it looks like lots of very good FCS in our division should be exciting

Re: Galileo Division 2013

I guess our blocker will find some use then. ;)

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by camtunkpa (Post 1264140)

222 is excited to be in this awesome field of competitors. Glad to see 1218 and 2729 are also in this division representing MAR! Also glad to see we have our friends 125!

We're glad to see our awesome MAR friends, 222 and 1218, in Galileo too. I'm sort of surprised that there's only 3 of us in the division! Our team is very happy and excited to be able to attend Championships this year and to be a part of this awesome division.

A few things about our robot:

We use a single-speed 8 wheeled tank drive with versa wheels. We're putting a new set on Thursday morning.
We shoot 3 during autonomous from any position at the back of the pyramid.
We can shoot to the 3 point goal from just about anywhere on the field. We're most accurate from the back of the pyramid.
We are a cycle feeder able to get 4 cycles in depending on the amount of defense we see.
Our full court shot is "non-traditional" meaning that we load from our shooter end, spin to face the goals, then shoot.

We were running without a working vision system at the MAR Championships and think we know what the problem was preventing our camera feed from displaying on the Smart Dashboard. We hope to have this system back up and running so that we can shoot "lasers" (Dustin Benedict) across the field more frequently. You may see a few matches online where we had some jams, this was completely fixed prior to the MAR region playoffs.

Here's some video of our matches and the GoPro Camera on our robot - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...KNL4-zpW4oeAyr

Looking forward to next week!

Nate

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb) (Post 1265007)

Except 1114 has missed one of the four pyramid disks before. 118 and 1477 get the 7 disks almost every time, so accuracy between climb and the auto's isn't too much of a factor.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

I thought I'd post a highlight video from the Midwest regional here (2338). Some quick information about our bot over the last 2 regionals:

-Won the Wisconsin regional as a 2nd round pick defensive bot with 1732 and 111
-Came back to Midwest after some practice and programming tweaks as one of the best cyclers in the regional
-Seeded 2nd, picked 111 and 1675

-Reliable 18 pt auton
-5+ cycles per match
-quick passive 10 point hang

And here's the video!
http://youtu.be/xBD_LEpQ8bg

How many cyclers are in our division thy match 1114 in just cycling? I know that 50 pt climb makes them better, but still how many really good second picks are there?

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by John_1102 (Post 1265900)

How many cyclers are in our division thy match 1114 in just cycling? I know that 50 pt climb makes them better, but still how many really good second picks are there?

610 is a superior cycler, likely matching 1114

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by Bdf809 (Post 1265936)

610 is a superior cycler, likely matching 1114

I think in a 1v1 610 and 1114 could go even at 11x points apiece. Definitely crazy.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

the question becomes how do you define superior cycler

obviously a high accuracy >90% i would think
but the tough question is how many cycles does a superior cycler make? 5? 6?

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by Boe (Post 1265947)

the question becomes how do you define superior cycler

obviously a high accuracy >90% i would think
but the tough question is how many cycles does a superior cycler make? 5? 6?

6 at a minimum. 610 was hitting 7 in week 1. I'm expecting more.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1265949)

6 at a minimum. 610 was hitting 7 in week 1. I'm expecting more.

do you judge the number of cycles a team makes with defence played on them.
My team did 4 runs easily every match with defence played on us, and could make 5 without defence. Hopefully we can break through for 6 at st louis.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by Boe (Post 1265956)

Easiest metric to use is max cycles. 610 had a massive target on their backs since BAE practice day. They were by far the biggest threat at their regional, and were stilling hitting 7.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

I think it about the consistency of a cycler. If they can make 10 with a miracle that's great but how reliably can they make those 10? At what point does a cycler sacrifice consistency for speed? I think the good cyclers have an alternative when defense is played on them. If a team can only shoot from a certain spot on the field, it's easier to shut them down and play defense. A good cycler should be able to do fine with defense as any good robot.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1265949)

6 at a minimum. 610 was hitting 7 in week 1. I'm expecting more.

I really doubt anyone could make more than seven. At our best we were averaging 6, in a normal match we got 5 then a few off the floor before we hung. I would be extremely impressed if someone did actually get 7 as an average. The most I have seen from the top cyclers are 5 - 6 as well.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

I was about to say....I've never seen 7 cycles anywhere consistently, and I watched 610 at BAE.
1772 is working on 5-6 cycles. 1114 did 4-5 average everywhere I watched them. 4452 did 4 average at Peach-tree and 624 did 5-6 average at Peach-tree.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

In my opinion a minimum of 4 or 5 cycles, with defense being played against them, makes a good cycler. Wanting 6+ is asking for a bit too much from one robot. Plus with the limited # of discs available at the feeder station limits how many cycles the cyclers on an alliance can make anyways.

I'll have to check out some of those teams you all are listing, I haven't seen many average any more than five. We're currently maxed out at five, with a quick 10 point hang at the buzzer.

I think that having two cyclers, and then a floor pick-up, will probably make the most stable alliance. The two capable of doing at least 5 cycles with any amount of defense, and the pick-up shooting anything they find laying on the floor, and, of course, getting that early lead in auton. 1114 and 118 just sound perfect for each other in this case. But who knows if either of them will be seeded first by the time quals are over, or whether or not any great cyclers/pick-ups will be left when third pick comes around.
Like what Joel said; keep an eye on 2337

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by JoeWithTheSpecs (Post 1266084)

Wanting 6+ is asking for a bit too much from one robot.

Here's a video of 610 completing 7 cycles at BAE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=i5xB3PIq1ms

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by Bdf809 (Post 1266086)

Here's a video of 610 completing 7 cycles at BAE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=i5xB3PIq1ms

Wow! That was very impressive! Granted, there was no defense, but still...I'm going to go watch it again :yikes:

Team 2485 is looking forward to playing with so many amazing teams and machines!

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by mmaunu (Post 1266090)

Wow! That was very impressive! Granted, there was no defense, but still...I'm going to go watch it again :yikes:

Impressive, indeed! Liked how he wasn't even defended by his own teammates, too!!!

They always kept out of his way! :p

Re: Galileo Division 2013

There's been a lot of talk about 610 here...

And here's some more!

They've just released some more material - a highlights video and spec sheet. Check out this thread.

:D

Re: Galileo Division 2013

A 6 CIM DriveTrain. No wonder no one can play defense on that robot.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by Bdf809 (Post 1266086)

Here's a video of 610 completing 7 cycles at BAE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=i5xB3PIq1ms

That's insane :yikes:
Were there any other matches where they were able to get 7 cycles though?

Re: Galileo Division 2013

If the "preliminary preliminary preliminary" schedule stays true, holy match 109!

Qualification 109: 842 / 2481 / 2512 vs. 610 / 1114 / 111

Pretty close to what most people have been suggesting for bot style match-ups on Einstein.

Any other great ones?

http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default...ual_prelim.pdf

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Match 7: 1241, 4334, 1477 vs 1675, 1114, 1806

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by zachmartin1806 (Post 1266212)

Match 7: 1241, 4334, 1477 vs 1675, 1114, 1806

You have no idea how intimidated I am by this preliminarily being our first match of qualification :o

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Match 86 (1325 & 1806 with us) are both FCS's. Expect to see a high score then for sure.

Match 124 will be a good test for us against 1114.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Prediction: Match 109 will set a world high score that will last until IRI.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Match 61 should be fun.
10:26 Qualification 61 Red: 358 125 1806 Blue: 4026 27 118

Re: Galileo Division 2013

I used the preliminary match schedules to simulate the matches using OPR and then calculate the standings. I used each team's best OPR from Ed Law's spreadsheet for calculating their contribution to a match. I also used each team's world Auto, Teleop, and Climb OPR from Ed Law's spreadsheet for calculating the rest of the standings.

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Rank        Team        Wins        Losses        Ties        Matches        QP        AP        TP        CP

1        610        8        0        0        8        16        289        552        188

2        2000        8        0        0        8        16        288        400        153

3        1425        8        0        0        8        16        192        457        167

4        111        7        1        0        8        14        364        413        188

5        118        7        1        0        8        14        337        558        157

6        2474        7        1        0        8        14        310        437        126

7        1114        7        1        0        8        14        308        709        259

8        2502        7        1        0        8        14        261        428        191

9        1806        7        1        0        8        14        251        616        213

10        27        7        1        0        8        14        236        439        74

11        2169        6        1        1        8        13        282        635        156

12        4579        6        1        1        8        13        259        441        250

13        3528        6        2        0        8        12        334        393        124

14        3284        6        2        0        8        12        315        474        176

15        4492        6        2        0        8        12        261        451        134

16        2648        6        2        0        8        12        258        437        205

17        4452        6        2        0        8        12        252        336        181

18        3656        6        2        0        8        12        235        342        128

19        4601        6        2        0        8        12        225        418        150

20        4069        6        2        0        8        12        222        419        162

21        3189        6        2        0        8        12        208        354        146

22        2512        6        2        0        8        12        207        475        158

23        4557        6        2        0        8        12        194        348        175

24        1241        5        3        0        8        10        305        426        163

25        1477        5        3        0        8        10        282        433        150

26        2729        5        3        0        8        10        276        512        182

27        3641        5        3        0        8        10        271        479        188

28        2907        5        3        0        8        10        270        436        174

29        2481        5        3        0        8        10        254        400        245

30        2834        5        3        0        8        10        253        356        121

31        1732        5        3        0        8        10        250        407        130

32        2403        5        3        0        8        10        248        275        216

33        329        5        3        0        8        10        243        473        78

34        245        5        3        0        8        10        240        501        130

35        1218        5        3        0        8        10        211        374        186

36        2338        5        3        0        8        10        190        412        164

37        447        4        3        1        8        9        303        446        166

38        2337        4        3        1        8        9        238        347        158

39        842        4        3        1        8        9        201        337        238

40        4039        4        4        0        8        8        287        529        141

41        4334        4        4        0        8        8        260        402        142

42        4627        4        4        0        8        8        248        348        114

43        2485        4        4        0        8        8        246        482        163

44        3459        4        4        0        8        8        246        287        105

45        2199        4        4        0        8        8        240        295        206

46        2175        4        4        0        8        8        237        364        156

47        3132        4        4        0        8        8        227        323        134

48        2341        4        4        0        8        8        224        385        154

49        295        4        4        0        8        8        224        317        141

50        1323        4        4        0        8        8        209        282        140

51        4011        4        4        0        8        8        200        330        169

52        192        4        4        0        8        8        197        388        170

53        45        4        4        0        8        8        184        325        124

54        1726        4        4        0        8        8        184        264        143

55        1710        4        4        0        8        8        177        205        149

56        4158        3        4        1        8        7        241        384        157

57        70        3        5        0        8        6        309        378        174

58        1987        3        5        0        8        6        274        319        135

59        125        3        5        0        8        6        272        407        178

60        4472        3        5        0        8        6        247        251        129

61        1405        3        5        0        8        6        244        274        192

62        2630        3        5        0        8        6        239        455        57

63        4607        3        5        0        8        6        228        323        157

64        222        3        5        0        8        6        227        400        138

65        1772        3        5        0        8        6        219        343        129

66        1378        3        5        0        8        6        207        364        117

67        4567        3        5        0        8        6        195        362        68

68        3941        3        5        0        8        6        191        326        203

69        4641        3        5        0        8        6        187        283        140

70        4522        3        5        0        8        6        183        278        144

71        1325        3        5        0        8        6        179        288        115

72        3944        3        5        0        8        6        176        280        139

73        744        3        5        0        8        6        175        252        102

74        358        3        5        0        8        6        166        368        269

75        4797        3        5        0        8        6        165        278        177

76        3481        3        5        0        8        6        161        250        150

77        2809        3        5        0        8        6        145        226        148

78        337        3        5        0        8        6        139        225        161

79        95        3        5        0        8        6        139        220        110

80        4541        3        5        0        8        6        125        242        273

81        422        2        6        0        8        4        277        322        90

82        4026        2        6        0        8        4        250        308        119

83        1629        2        6        0        8        4        245        367        132

84        1912        2        6        0        8        4        241        242        165

85        3211        2        6        0        8        4        200        243        113

86        2978        2        6        0        8        4        195        240        92

87        1675        2        6        0        8        4        192        291        143

88        151        2        6        0        8        4        189        310        147

89        3018        2        6        0        8        4        174        324        210

90        1086        2        6        0        8        4        165        224        124

91        467        2        6        0        8        4        162        252        122

92        4502        2        6        0        8        4        146        195        175

93        1429        1        7        0        8        2        248        268        154

94        4462        1        7        0        8        2        204        261        123

95        1801        1        7        0        8        2        188        232        80

96        578        1        7        0        8        2        173        178        61

97        2046        1        7        0        8        2        168        323        59

98        4481        1        7        0        8        2        162        176        123

99        384        0        8        0        8        0        236        276        73

100        2259        0        8        0        8        0        178        245        200

Here are the results from the individual matches

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Match        Red 1        Red 2        Red 3        Blue 1        Blue 2        Blue 3        RScore        BScore

1        4627        2834        245        2175        4158        4452        89        138

2        2169        70        4641        4462        1629        1772        133        94

3        1801        2502        2338        2000        3528        1405        118        143

4        4557        2474        4026        384        2978        2630        98        73

5        45        3656        1218        151        1710        1086        131        48

6        118        3284        447        2403        4607        1323        208        84

7        1241        4334        1477        1675        1114        1806        182        196

8        3941        842        422        192        4797        744        90        96

9        4011        3018        2259        2337        2199        95        64        84

10        2341        27        1325        2485        467        4541        94        81

11        610        3189        295        358        2648        1429        123        121

12        2729        3944        4039        111        4601        4579        132        150

13        222        2512        3459        2046        1732        4567        122        82

14        3641        3132        329        1912        4472        578        128        63

15        2907        125        4492        2809        3211        4502        121        58

16        337        4069        4522        3481        4481        1987        73        51

17        2481        1425        1710        1378        1726        192        101        82

18        2978        3941        1323        2337        1114        2502        67        205

19        2403        2175        1086        295        4334        1405        118        113

20        2729        422        2630        1241        2259        4641        141        85

21        2000        1675        3656        4026        2512        1772        132        109

22        842        118        2199        245        1629        2046        144        117

23        222        1325        744        4452        3132        3944        92        97

24        4607        2648        1806        1987        578        2809        135        70

25        4601        329        95        3284        2338        1378        95        116

26        4627        2169        2485        3459        4797        4557        134        65

27        151        4579        1732        3211        1801        4462        122        39

28        2474        1726        3189        3018        3641        2341        124        105

29        70        4481        610        4567        4472        125        112        87

30        45        384        4502        4522        111        1912        52        130

31        1218        358        4541        4039        2481        4069        122        141

32        3528        2907        2834        447        467        337        117        78

33        1477        3481        1425        1429        4492        27        139        108

34        4011        1114        192        4158        1405        118        154        157

35        4579        2199        1710        4452        2502        2485        83        169

36        4607        1325        1675        2338        4557        3189        45        97

37        1086        4567        4601        3211        578        3941        64        50

38        245        1378        2512        4522        3944        2337        127        80

39        4502        1218        1726        2169        2175        1241        116        179

40        2809        384        2341        447        2729        610        63        196

41        4462        2259        125        1987        1429        3132        79        97

42        4797        4541        45        2046        4158        337        67        58

43        3459        3641        3528        4069        4011        2648        105        108

44        1323        1425        358        329        70        1801        108        106

45        1772        4334        1732        1912        4039        4481        136        97

46        3018        467        2630        222        3481        842        83        91

47        295        3656        95        1806        2474        4492        85        156

48        2000        1629        4472        2978        2481        2907        127        105

49        111        4026        422        2834        1477        3284        122        161

50        151        27        4641        4627        2403        744        98        84

51        4601        192        4522        4541        2648        2259        98        89

52        3941        2512        337        4011        2485        384        89        86

53        70        4452        1912        2341        4557        1114        128        146

54        447        2337        4158        4579        2169        842        148        148

55        1405        1710        1772        4797        3211        95        81        52

56        222        1378        2907        610        1218        2199        107        157

57        3528        4492        245        1323        4472        3018        126        80

58        422        578        4627        4334        1726        4069        45        117

59        1477        2474        2403        2729        1325        1801        192        90

60        1629        1429        151        111        3641        4607        96        121

61        358        125        1806        4026        27        118        158        161

62        2481        2809        45        295        3481        1675        90        64

63        4481        2338        3944        4502        2834        2978        62        67

64        2046        744        329        4462        1086        2630        95        72

65        2175        1732        4641        2000        3189        1425        120        144

66        1987        1241        467        3459        2502        4039        89        136

67        4567        3132        1726        3656        3284        3528        83        141

68        1429        1378        1912        4579        2403        3941        75        125

69        3211        447        4472        358        2474        2512        100        153

70        2729        1806        3641        70        4158        2481        175        123

71        1772        151        2485        2338        245        222        122        154

72        1405        2199        4557        1477        45        2648        81        155

73        2175        1675        337        27        578        2630        83        111

74        4462        4069        95        1323        3944        2000        64        96

75        3284        1114        1425        384        2169        4039        205        143

76        4026        2046        1801        2337        610        4627        47        108

77        4641        4011        4502        2341        2502        842        50        112

78        4797        125        3481        4334        1325        3656        93        107

79        1218        4567        2834        2259        329        3189        112        94

80        4522        2978        467        4492        1710        744        45        65

81        3132        1086        4481        118        4541        2809        56        131

82        192        111        4452        1732        1987        2907        158        128

83        295        3459        4607        3018        422        4601        57        105

84        1629        2337        3211        1241        2403        337        100        115

85        358        3941        151        2729        1726        4557        89        111

86        1429        3284        2199        1325        1806        1772        108        118

87        2630        4472        4627        3656        3189        4502        64        97

88        4026        467        4158        1218        1425        2648        55        171

89        4334        2259        1378        70        447        2000        77        177

90        95        3528        1732        1086        1477        384        106        104

91        1323        111        1710        1675        3132        3459        102        80

92        3641        3944        192        4567        2169        295        88        116

93        3481        4541        4579        329        4011        2474        78        124

94        744        578        4481        245        2907        2341        47        127

95        118        1987        1801        1912        2834        222        132        111

96        4797        4462        2338        2512        27        3018        90        148

97        4601        4452        1241        2978        2809        842        140        73

98        610        4039        4607        1405        4641        4522        131        80

99        4069        1114        2485        1629        125        45        203        116

100        2502        4492        2481        2046        422        2175        126        100

101        2199        4541        4502        1732        1323        3641        67        116

102        2341        1772        3528        4579        358        192        104        120

103        2169        2630        3211        245        1987        1325        128        104

104        2337        2474        2648        1086        222        3284        163        115

105        3459        3189        2403        578        3481        95        104        36

106        1429        3018        70        118        4627        1241        109        142

107        467        4452        2000        1726        45        4481        116        55

108        744        1405        1675        1378        125        2834        90        97

109        842        2481        2512        610        1114        111        128        237

110        4567        2485        4607        4462        2907        1425        86        106

111        4557        4039        329        2809        1710        337        125        43

112        2338        4069        1806        2259        3941        2175        155        92

113        3132        2502        4334        4026        151        4601        143        78

114        3656        2046        2978        1477        447        4011        77        160

115        4522        4797        2729        1218        295        1629        119        138

116        4472        27        3944        1801        384        422        84        58

117        4492        4158        1325        1912        4641        1726        73        80

118        2474        4481        1378        111        3528        4627        82        114

119        2834        4607        70        4541        95        2512        83        85

120        4579        3641        610        2630        118        45        151        150

121        222        4334        3189        2481        2169        3941        129        143

122        3284        2502        3211        192        4069        1675        122        98

123        4522        447        578        1241        125        2199        107        135

124        1114        4601        1987        2046        1772        1218        171        117

125        384        744        1429        3656        4158        2338        70        128

126        4462        422        4039        1806        4452        3481        106        133

127        1912        1405        337        3459        2978        1425        77        85

128        2809        27        4011        1629        1323        4567        95        83

129        329        2000        295        151        2337        2341        141        94

130        2175        842        2907        1710        1477        3944        126        96

131        2403        2259        358        4797        1732        4492        102        104

132        1801        1086        4641        467        245        4557        44        76

133        2648        2729        2485        3018        4502        3132        182        95

134        4472        4579        2338        4026        4452        4607        113        79

7 matches are predicted to be over 300 combined

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Match        Red 1        Red 2        Red 3        Blue 1        Blue 2        Blue 3        RScore        BScore

7        1241        4334        1477        1675        1114        1806        182        196

109        842        2481        2512        610        1114        111        128        237

75        3284        1114        1425        384        2169        4039        205        143

61        358        125        1806        4026        27        118        158        161

99        4069        1114        2485        1629        125        45        203        116

34        4011        1114        192        4158        1405        118        154        157

120        4579        3641        610        2630        118        45        151        150

Here are the highest scoring close matches

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Match        Red 1        Red 2        Red 3        Blue 1        Blue 2        Blue 3        RScore        BScore

61        358        125        1806        4026        27        118        158        161

34        4011        1114        192        4158        1405        118        154        157

120        4579        3641        610        2630        118        45        151        150

54        447        2337        4158        4579        2169        842        148        148

11        610        3189        295        358        2648        1429        123        121

19        2403        2175        1086        295        4334        1405        118        113

Don't like the predictions? Go out and prove them wrong :)

Edit, now corrected to include match 134.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Thanks for the info Joe!

You're missing match 134. :)

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Seeing our number come up in so many of the top matches is exciting. Hope we can stand out :)

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by GearsOfFury (Post 1266207)

Yeah...basically that match is where us and 842 will have to prove our defensive worth before each of us gets on that pyramid for 30 and dumps all 6 discs between us. 2512 will be able to go nuts shooting because all three of those teams can't block a FCS. If they can manage to shoot all 45 discs, we may have a shot because we'll beat them on climb points by a significant margin. Now, when I say 'we have a shot' I really mean like we may be able to pull this off 1 match out of a hundred...but that 1 time just has to happen in match 109 on Friday. Anyone up for the Galileo miracle? ;)

Match could be tied at 66 after autonomous (each side has a 5 disc and 2 18s)

If we can collectively slow 1114 to 3 cycles, 111 to 3 cycles, and 610 to 3 cycles that's 108 tele-op points (or 36 discs). Hell, they'd easily score the full 45 for 135 tele-op points undefended.

Climb points should be 70 (2 30s and a 10) to 50 (30 and 2 10s) with 30 points in pyramid discs (6) to 20 points in pyramid discs (4). That's 100 to 70 on the pyramid.

That means, 2512 has to score at least 26 discs with their full court shooting for this to happen if 1114/610/111 are limited to 36 discs with our defense. 2512 would have to score at least 35 discs if 1114/610/111 put up all 45.

That would be 244 - 244...which is a very high score, for either side. That tells me that this is at least possible with the amount of variables in play...

Yeah, I believe in miracles :)

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1266341)

Not exactly sure how you got these.. I ran the same type of simulation with the data here and got these results.

Those OPR numbers aren't correct. It's not referencing correctly with the Max OPR page.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by avanboekel (Post 1266343)

Those OPR numbers aren't correct. It's not referencing correctly with the Max OPR page.

VLOOKUPS require sorted fields for searching. Sort the OPR data by team number, not by OPR.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1266341)

Not exactly sure how you got these.. I ran the same type of simulation with the data here and got these results.

Joel,
Those results don't look right, I ran a similar analysis and got the same results as Joe.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1266346)

VLOOKUPS require sorted fields for searching. Sort the OPR data by team number, not by OPR.

I didn't make the spreadsheet, just the observation that it was wrong. I think somebody in the other thread said they are going to fix it later today.

On another note, I see that some teams have 9 matches while others have 8. I'm guessing that the T or F next to the team number on the version FIRST released indicates whether or not it's a surrogate match.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

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Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1266341)

Not exactly sure how you got these.. I ran the same type of simulation with the data here and got these results.
...

I found out what was up. The OPR columns in the document were completely wrong (1114 has a 37 OPR... what?). Joe Ross's analysis is correct.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1266351)

I found out what was up. The OPR columns in the document were completely wrong (1114 has a 37 OPR... what?). Does anyone have an easy way to repair that?

Travis said-
VLOOKUPS require sorted fields for searching. Sort the OPR data by team number, not by OPR.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by avanboekel (Post 1266352)

Travis said-
VLOOKUPS require sorted fields for searching. Sort the OPR data by team number, not by OPR.

The sheet is protected. Someone with access will need to do it.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1266357)

The sheet is protected. Someone with access will need to do it.

Download it as an Excel file (File menu). Then you can do what you want with it.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by barn34 (Post 1266317)

Well if that match does happen I know what to prepare for now. ;-)

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Similar to Joe's Post, here is what I pulled up from my database:

Code:

Rank        Team        Wins        Losses         Auton                  Teleop        Climb

1        2000        8        0        339.4118376        583.3173277        153.2978706

2        610        8        0        327.2831218        663.4686111        208.8649728

3        1425        8        0        256.5938256        646.7435868        185.4537257

4        111        7        1        413.4566302        504.6951036        219.9849087

5        2474        7        1        392.9492782        555.9276424        149.0889119

6        118        7        1        388.5676859        643.0836749        153.8854646

7        4452        7        2        384.5580535        541.6448003        261.4859541

8        1114        7        1        328.6607462        849.7160171        327.758655

9        1806        7        1        310.705098        650.7209833        272.0383201

10        27        7        1        280.854562        533.5248126        76.00261802

11        2502        7        1        264.5125073        563.1033412        270.8128708

12        3528        6        2        364.721481        475.7123946        122.2295133

13        3284        6        2        357.0157363        609.1641928        184.4054775

14        2648        6        2        333.6770125        567.252136        213.2568982

15        4069        6        2        296.1918706        484.5803783        176.6323599

16        4579        6        3        293.0472739        508.2541516        279.4225624

17        4492        6        2        281.4500658        457.8843917        152.3511184

18        2169        6        2        267.3692581        664.8157139        177.2666378

19        3656        6        2        260.889885        464.8174797        168.7283499

20        4601        6        2        254.9417619        482.2507245        173.138805

21        3189        6        2        252.8834819        496.3195286        152.3859313

22        2512        6        2        227.1738389        568.1765103        167.4807692

23        4557        6        2        212.3482543        399.2500252        180.2358143

24        2338        6        3        207.6370395        605.504249        222.1237923

25        1477        5        3        400.8012307        635.2850354        147.9502986

26        1241        5        3        376.0822375        528.0421496        178.6612996

27        2729        5        3        341.6970178        569.2364634        219.8233795

28        447        5        3        341.5288962        582.3000384        174.9029565

29        2834        5        3        315.5103286        427.2617247        95.13664334

30        2907        5        3        303.3033361        441.7684479        190.7785953

31        2481        5        3        294.9291941        436.6760205        218.5025543

32        3641        5        3        293.4582927        532.1369505        167.1692436

33        2403        5        3        286.9529622        377.7844291        274.8435524

34        2337        5        3        281.3084476        461.2038191        214.4414019

35        1218        5        3        265.9198309        578.1554666        210.7996568

36        329        5        3        261.3943135        577.8390345        92.21007831

37        245        5        3        255.5551567        539.9154675        128.4186598

38        1732        5        3        251.8203337        479.3601603        187.7248564

39        4039        4        4        320.1576059        528.8061253        167.6322725

40        4334        4        4        312.967596        516.8036298        173.6192218

41        4158        4        4        279.9466638        442.2397609        174.7263875

42        192        4        4        279.1732286        445.9606207        171.2620088

43        2199        4        4        277.3604935        330.9435226        189.4045247

44        3459        4        4        273.5694053        382.3338516        99.07813306

45        2485        4        4        266.2214741        557.5899185        188.3105091

46        1726        4        4        265.8326609        346.2349053        150.8793851

47        2175        4        4        263.2504214        450.6399205        251.9247035

48        4627        4        4        262.0832141        390.8925694        132.0125109

49        3132        4        4        248.4262577        381.9306075        165.2501526

50        295        4        4        247.6925385        466.1102799        126.0650472

51        4011        4        4        239.3002934        408.3139466        174.7743904

52        45        4        4        238.4501888        424.6594985        92.20729569

53        2341        4        4        226.9460398        433.0941739        170.9711826

54        1323        4        4        216.530052        377.2680564        146.4618615

55        842        4        4        210.7096309        368.0571729        256.9030841

56        1710        4        4        209.0431127        258.0263065        152.8870935

57        70        3        5        340.3377589        460.8265881        178.1590781

58        1987        3        5        298.8897086        371.4569959        166.6420718

59        125        3        5        289.4587694        414.5934466        174.3321513

60        222        3        5        273.8180657        481.5940405        158.7102602

61        1405        3        5        273.5562207        346.2001434        198.0558045

62        4607        3        6        262.9507959        371.2714227        177.9737968

63        4472        3        5        248.0718798        320.4937655        126.3410521

64        1772        3        5        247.1928367        446.2659693        186.15206

65        1378        3        5        239.5630422        411.6245401        113.5268088

66        1325        3        5        239.5149714        301.6530644        186.2321972

67        2630        3        5        231.243705        489.8766974        59.80447832

68        3944        3        5        229.7187948        361.2900095        150.6130268

69        4522        3        5        228.6967165        327.8018187        164.8253232

70        744        3        5        213.7977566        281.4537305        164.8896969

71        4641        3        5        212.9638025        327.3762731        162.6491645

72        358        3        5        208.2177577        470.4144542        300.3432876

73        3481        3        5        201.0478133        323.7212215        157.2148068

74        4567        3        5        200.2196047        411.2074403        67.9962901

75        95        3        5        185.6466518        276.2382421        147.672099

76        4797        3        5        181.0715066        319.2746643        187.9442414

77        337        3        5        174.3164471        281.5331104        171.8513376

78        3941        3        5        168.6301846        337.368133        249.6355007

79        2809        3        5        160.3705945        263.1359037        116.6198062

80        4541        3        5        140.4892951        297.1941327        257.3820841

81        1912        2        6        306.3133552        304.1768794        170.7541726

82        1629        2        6        276.9191232        457.8768302        115.5329455

83        422        2        6        273.1139821        345.2013386        145.2350049

84        4026        2        6        272.9802613        349.8353143        131.9187452

85        1675        2        6        216.6775942        374.8922662        204.7860169

86        2978        2        6        215.754648        269.4413644        92.86267932

87        151        2        6        214.7256855        381.4452495        151.1355776

88        1086        2        6        191.234883        273.016549        165.8717034

89        467        2        6        176.7747254        321.7633144        126.868975

90        4502        2        6        154.4986648        251.2045098        171.6578547

91        3211        2        6        151.7945738        268.904902        122.3715481

92        3018        2        6        146.7124076        396.6147198        246.8913193

93        1429        1        7        299.8142356        337.6486824        148.694706

94        1801        1        7        219.465527        272.7024469        138.5473679

95        4462        1        7        218.1868541        288.8398022        140.0262214

96        2046        1        7        201.731004        372.283241        120.1824194

97        4481        1        7        195.0045278        216.7587443        145.78604

98        578        1        7        190.1345067        222.2787725        92.48802172

99        384        0        8        251.6569642        303.5151612        78.35431597

100        2259        0        8        178.0861512        285.5099332        215.8133132

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by stingray27 (Post 1266363)

Similar to Joe's Post, here is what I pulled up from my database:

Code:

Rank        Team        win        loss        auton                        teleop

1        1425        8        0        514.5797967        213.620008

2        610        8        0        426.3259509        454.4765931

3        2000        8        0        402.5021234        393.868145

4        1806        7        1        529.7862611        375.7341261

5        118        7        1        488.7188396        443.4902405

6        1114        7        1        441.2055099        428.23455

7        111        7        1        424.9966926        356.3071779

8        4452        7        2        380.845196        350.2286779

9        2502        7        1        337.7455263        324.3459281

10        2474        7        1        335.0136976        261.6137508

11        27        7        1        322.8663349        290.6002484

12        2648        6        2        524.7261464        235.8552453

13        2169        6        2        446.0799888        390.9376034

14        2338        6        3        427.2949641        396.0876846

15        2512        6        2        421.5218115        302.595847

16        3528        6        2        411.1806573        261.7880619

17        4492        6        2        393.7020665        228.0115098

18        3189        6        2        387.4596116        169.8139056

19        3284        6        2        336.4592185        387.6485551

20        4069        6        2        335.4788849        336.5653434

21        4601        6        2        327.6582267        331.3727131

22        3656        6        2        314.1252122        389.7842389

23        4579        6        3        301.4255741        382.5106737

24        4557        6        2        271.5565385        261.5573944

25        1241        5        3        478.0862264        380.6813042

26        1477        5        3        448.3570873        456.3603691

27        329        5        3        440.6138274        344.653101

28        3641        5        3        410.4769972        356.0885923

29        1732        5        3        408.2805647        340.9252399

30        2834        5        3        407.3080218        263.6916879

31        447        5        3        392.2038913        414.6268827

32        1218        5        3        372.5865953        467.6431863

33        2481        5        3        371.4753175        426.6791635

34        2403        5        3        351.6768318        203.9322547

35        2337        5        3        350.4044892        426.847058

36        245        5        3        338.8646495        332.4456928

37        2907        5        3        315.1361778        236.6002016

38        2729        5        3        302.4286233        394.889662

39        2485        4        4        539.0268638        259.1759882

40        4039        4        4        429.4792415        217.7105637

41        295        4        4        405.8545146        217.2178007

42        4158        4        4        376.0695104        233.6592356

43        192        4        4        372.7806581        288.6812956

44        2199        4        4        365.0337187        313.8093375

45        45        4        4        360.1681094        191.4537706

46        1710        4        4        338.1300914        165.8092393

47        4334        4        4        326.911818        440.5605639

48        2341        4        4        318.4116692        308.2393042

49        842        4        4        312.3312503        331.563849

50        3459        4        4        311.2832805        318.6928465

51        2175        4        4        306.4590766        346.4873939

52        4011        4        4        305.7449136        253.7355586

53        3132        4        4        303.7976926        279.9074474

54        4627        4        4        277.8338935        254.8008006

55        1726        4        4        275.5713211        204.2253238

56        1323        4        4        241.7044769        276.6136062

57        1987        3        5        409.0460731        245.5820445

58        4607        3        6        399.3664256        232.0701619

59        4472        3        5        396.5137098        224.0075438

60        222        3        5        393.9007912        336.905071

61        2630        3        5        382.4635369        215.551055

62        1772        3        5        378.4695464        330.1575139

63        70        3        5        373.2082263        362.9603846

64        4641        3        5        371.2848719        148.1304255

65        125        3        5        360.8561907        278.9408393

66        3944        3        5        353.5963726        246.463966

67        3941        3        5        345.485973        370.7618314

68        1405        3        5        344.1852892        261.5357236

69        1325        3        5        342.3833893        255.3157771

70        358        3        5        332.0503844        411.6219145

71        3481        3        5        326.0745717        209.3933733

72        1378        3        5        306.018455        300.3875986

73        4522        3        5        270.7036714        264.483786

74        337        3        5        270.6525455        188.119288

75        95        3        5        251.0149463        162.6501873

76        4797        3        5        247.7051905        319.7743329

77        2809        3        5        241.9586349        215.3766958

78        4567        3        5        241.202862        291.5810666

79        744        3        5        239.6207725        255.0261043

80        4541        3        5        235.9012233        344.3511193

81        1629        2        6        382.5979213        314.0670307

82        3211        2        6        321.6637979        155.3365139

83        1912        2        6        308.026743        240.0464673

84        151        2        6        306.5267083        365.3405806

85        467        2        6        285.3060512        288.875651

86        4026        2        6        280.1144469        364.8112765

87        4502        2        6        275.8432247        207.3012134

88        3018        2        6        273.8830605        358.5995771

89        422        2        6        271.1376114        225.6511656

90        1086        2        6        265.1736341        319.5281761

91        1675        2        6        254.1979875        369.4301115

92        2978        2        6        236.4246779        184.264119

93        578        1        7        307.003048        241.3050859

94        1429        1        7        296.3992141        296.4651213

95        1801        1        7        295.3964673        198.9846829

96        2046        1        7        268.6454291        404.4811356

97        4462        1        7        214.1941115        343.3635454

98        4481        1        7        209.6078547        209.6834595

99        384        0        8        336.8963678        348.5397816

100        2259        0        8        301.2801641        365.3055616

That doesn't seem right. There's no way we'd have more autonomous points than teleop.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by stingray27 (Post 1266363)

Similar to Joe's Post, here is what I pulled up from my database:

Code:

Rank        Team        win        loss        auton                        teleop

1        1425        8        0        514.5797967        213.620008

2        610        8        0        426.3259509        454.4765931

3        2000        8        0        402.5021234        393.868145

4        1806        7        1        529.7862611        375.7341261

5        118        7        1        488.7188396        443.4902405

6        1114        7        1        441.2055099        428.23455

7        111        7        1        424.9966926        356.3071779

8        4452        7        2        380.845196        350.2286779

9        2502        7        1        337.7455263        324.3459281

10        2474        7        1        335.0136976        261.6137508

11        27        7        1        322.8663349        290.6002484

12        2648        6        2        524.7261464        235.8552453

13        2169        6        2        446.0799888        390.9376034

14        2338        6        3        427.2949641        396.0876846

15        2512        6        2        421.5218115        302.595847

16        3528        6        2        411.1806573        261.7880619

17        4492        6        2        393.7020665        228.0115098

18        3189        6        2        387.4596116        169.8139056

19        3284        6        2        336.4592185        387.6485551

20        4069        6        2        335.4788849        336.5653434

21        4601        6        2        327.6582267        331.3727131

22        3656        6        2        314.1252122        389.7842389

23        4579        6        3        301.4255741        382.5106737

24        4557        6        2        271.5565385        261.5573944

25        1241        5        3        478.0862264        380.6813042

26        1477        5        3        448.3570873        456.3603691

27        329        5        3        440.6138274        344.653101

28        3641        5        3        410.4769972        356.0885923

29        1732        5        3        408.2805647        340.9252399

30        2834        5        3        407.3080218        263.6916879

31        447        5        3        392.2038913        414.6268827

32        1218        5        3        372.5865953        467.6431863

33        2481        5        3        371.4753175        426.6791635

34        2403        5        3        351.6768318        203.9322547

35        2337        5        3        350.4044892        426.847058

36        245        5        3        338.8646495        332.4456928

37        2907        5        3        315.1361778        236.6002016

38        2729        5        3        302.4286233        394.889662

39        2485        4        4        539.0268638        259.1759882

40        4039        4        4        429.4792415        217.7105637

41        295        4        4        405.8545146        217.2178007

42        4158        4        4        376.0695104        233.6592356

43        192        4        4        372.7806581        288.6812956

44        2199        4        4        365.0337187        313.8093375

45        45        4        4        360.1681094        191.4537706

46        1710        4        4        338.1300914        165.8092393

47        4334        4        4        326.911818        440.5605639

48        2341        4        4        318.4116692        308.2393042

49        842        4        4        312.3312503        331.563849

50        3459        4        4        311.2832805        318.6928465

51        2175        4        4        306.4590766        346.4873939

52        4011        4        4        305.7449136        253.7355586

53        3132        4        4        303.7976926        279.9074474

54        4627        4        4        277.8338935        254.8008006

55        1726        4        4        275.5713211        204.2253238

56        1323        4        4        241.7044769        276.6136062

57        1987        3        5        409.0460731        245.5820445

58        4607        3        6        399.3664256        232.0701619

59        4472        3        5        396.5137098        224.0075438

60        222        3        5        393.9007912        336.905071

61        2630        3        5        382.4635369        215.551055

62        1772        3        5        378.4695464        330.1575139

63        70        3        5        373.2082263        362.9603846

64        4641        3        5        371.2848719        148.1304255

65        125        3        5        360.8561907        278.9408393

66        3944        3        5        353.5963726        246.463966

67        3941        3        5        345.485973        370.7618314

68        1405        3        5        344.1852892        261.5357236

69        1325        3        5        342.3833893        255.3157771

70        358        3        5        332.0503844        411.6219145

71        3481        3        5        326.0745717        209.3933733

72        1378        3        5        306.018455        300.3875986

73        4522        3        5        270.7036714        264.483786

74        337        3        5        270.6525455        188.119288

75        95        3        5        251.0149463        162.6501873

76        4797        3        5        247.7051905        319.7743329

77        2809        3        5        241.9586349        215.3766958

78        4567        3        5        241.202862        291.5810666

79        744        3        5        239.6207725        255.0261043

80        4541        3        5        235.9012233        344.3511193

81        1629        2        6        382.5979213        314.0670307

82        3211        2        6        321.6637979        155.3365139

83        1912        2        6        308.026743        240.0464673

84        151        2        6        306.5267083        365.3405806

85        467        2        6        285.3060512        288.875651

86        4026        2        6        280.1144469        364.8112765

87        4502        2        6        275.8432247        207.3012134

88        3018        2        6        273.8830605        358.5995771

89        422        2        6        271.1376114        225.6511656

90        1086        2        6        265.1736341        319.5281761

91        1675        2        6        254.1979875        369.4301115

92        2978        2        6        236.4246779        184.264119

93        578        1        7        307.003048        241.3050859

94        1429        1        7        296.3992141        296.4651213

95        1801        1        7        295.3964673        198.9846829

96        2046        1        7        268.6454291        404.4811356

97        4462        1        7        214.1941115        343.3635454

98        4481        1        7        209.6078547        209.6834595

99        384        0        8        336.8963678        348.5397816

100        2259        0        8        301.2801641        365.3055616

Any way to remove the surrogate matches?

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woolly (Post 1266368)

That doesn't seem right. There's no way we'd have more autonomous points than teleop.

Yeah, Thanks. There are some errors in the auton and teleop columns. Just go by the first 2/3 columns. Sorry!

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Looking at OPRs is fun, but they should be taken with a grain of salt.
After all, if matches were determined by the numbers, we wouldn't need to have competitions.

I'll probably be more surprised than anyone if my team manages to go undefeated.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamierose (Post 1266373)

Surprises are fun.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamierose (Post 1266373)

We all know OPR is everything, obviously.
/sarcasm

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1266378)

We all know OPR is everything, obviously.
/sarcasm

Especially OPR at previous events, some of which more than 4 weeks ago.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1266378)

We all know OPR is everything, obviously.
/sarcasm

Also, remember that the fewer matches the team played in the more accurate the results!

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Suppose for a second though, that 610 (inexplicably, given their lack of 7disc floor pickup [they had a 5disker at ONWA, but removed it]) DOES seed #1.

Who do they pick? 118? 1114? someone else? 1114's scoring prowess is huge, but that would leave their alliance likely without a 7disc auto.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1266403)

Eh Team 2013 all the way.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1266403)

I don't think they would pick 1114 because that means they are banking on any floor pickup being left for the 16th pick (there won't be) or they have their pickup at 100% (which they may find risky). If 1114 is an alliance captain but ranked 4th or lower, 610 might pick them almost certainly anticipating them to decline and scorch the pick. I'm certain at that point the best floor loader on the board would go to them, and 1114 would be forced to pick a floor load that may not be of the consistent caliber 610 will get.

But I think we're in the fourth layer of this hypothetical right now so I'll just wait here for Wednesday at 2:30 to get here so I can be in the car to StL.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1266403)

Suppose for a second though, that 610 (inexplicably, given their lack of 7disc floor pickup [they had a 5disker at ONWA, but removed it]) DOES seed #1.

Who do they pick? 118? 1114?

4601! (rooting for the local rookie team :) )

610, 1114, 1323

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1266385)

Also, remember that the fewer matches the team played in the more accurate the results!

True story, 1772's OPR is all bad because of how they've played 50+ matches with varying problems being addressed. I like how 4452 is seeded 8th in someone's data. Rookies in the top 8 would be really cool.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamierose (Post 1266373)

As would I. It would certainly be a step up from going 2-9 in the Portland Regional haha.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

On the PRELIMINARY schedule, there is a match with 1114, 610, and 111 on an alliance (against 842). That should be fun to watch.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox (Post 1266494)

On the PRELIMINARY schedule, there is a match with 1114, 610, and 111 on an alliance (against 842). That should be fun to watch.

How did I possibly miss that? That's crazy, can't wait to watch.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox (Post 1266494)

On the PRELIMINARY schedule, there is a match with 1114, 610, and 111 on an alliance (against 842). That should be fun to watch.

Ya, that could be the match of the day. We already discussed it a bit a couple pages back, but here is the entire lineup:

Blue:
842: Phoenix Regional Winners, Reveal Video
2481: Wisconsin Regional Finalists, Hanging Video
2512: Midwest Regional Winners, Reveal Video

Red:
610: BAE Regional Winners, Waterloo Finalists, Finals at BAE
1114: GTR East Winners, GTR West Winners, Waterloo Winners, GTR East Finals
111: Wisconsin Regional Winners, Wisconsin Final-3

I know that we, 2512, are looking forward to this match. We are expecting it to be a very high-scoring endeavor.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Our (2046's) projected rank is 96th with a record of 1-7-0... we're hoping, with some of the new tricks we've been working on, to do a little bit better than that :P but with matches against 1114, 118, 610, and 1477 to name a few... it seems like the scheduling gods were not smiling upon us. I think we have a decent chance at coming out of quals 5-3-0 though. And there's always that possibility that these Preliminary schedules change... We'll see how it goes :)

Good luck to everyone this week, we'll see you in St. Louis.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austin2046 (Post 1266648)

I hope we end up getting 9 matches and the schedule changes!

-RC

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnChristensen (Post 1266625)

Here's our reveal video to round out the preview fun :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtoXDBQhvXI

Also, Wisconsin F-3 is the one where we were unfortunately tipped (don't worry, zombie mode has been added so there's zero chance of that happening again). Wisconsin F-1 and F-2 are much better matches for showcasing 111 and 2481 head-to-head since we're both upright throughout... :)

F-1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLIJPHtv904
F-2 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b82Kvb_e6zY

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Just finished data crunching. Here's our ranking (matches up with Joe Ross)

Code:

2000 ranks 1 QS 16 AP 352.14

610 ranks 2 QS 16 AP 335.34999999999997

1425 ranks 3 QS 16 AP 254.07999999999998

111 ranks 4 QS 14 AP 418.87999999999994

2474 ranks 5 QS 14 AP 400.0

118 ranks 6 QS 14 AP 391.78000000000003

4452 ranks 7 QS 14 AP 378.96999999999997

1114 ranks 8 QS 14 AP 372.9599999999999

1806 ranks 9 QS 14 AP 323.37999999999994

27 ranks 10 QS 14 AP 310.43999999999994

2502 ranks 11 QS 14 AP 295.1

3284 ranks 12 QS 12 AP 378.27

3528 ranks 13 QS 12 AP 375.15999999999997

2648 ranks 14 QS 12 AP 335.73

4069 ranks 15 QS 12 AP 305.33

4579 ranks 16 QS 12 AP 305.19000000000005

2169 ranks 17 QS 12 AP 297.75

4601 ranks 18 QS 12 AP 291.46999999999997

4492 ranks 19 QS 12 AP 289.28

3656 ranks 20 QS 12 AP 288.44

2512 ranks 21 QS 12 AP 265.72999999999996

3189 ranks 22 QS 12 AP 260.17

2338 ranks 23 QS 12 AP 231.56999999999996

4557 ranks 24 QS 12 AP 224.08

1477 ranks 25 QS 10 AP 399.86

1241 ranks 26 QS 10 AP 379.58000000000004

447 ranks 27 QS 10 AP 351.39000000000004

2729 ranks 28 QS 10 AP 343.68

2834 ranks 29 QS 10 AP 321.58000000000004

3641 ranks 30 QS 10 AP 320.56

2907 ranks 31 QS 10 AP 310.55

2337 ranks 32 QS 10 AP 304.32

2481 ranks 33 QS 10 AP 302.46999999999997

329 ranks 34 QS 10 AP 296.7

1732 ranks 35 QS 10 AP 290.05999999999995

2403 ranks 36 QS 10 AP 288.71

1218 ranks 37 QS 10 AP 271.45

245 ranks 38 QS 10 AP 263.84999999999997

4039 ranks 39 QS 8 AP 330.75

4334 ranks 40 QS 8 AP 316.96999999999997

192 ranks 41 QS 8 AP 286.0

2199 ranks 42 QS 8 AP 281.85

2485 ranks 43 QS 8 AP 280.01

4158 ranks 44 QS 8 AP 277.17

4011 ranks 45 QS 8 AP 275.83

2175 ranks 46 QS 8 AP 271.81999999999994

3459 ranks 47 QS 8 AP 268.79

4627 ranks 48 QS 8 AP 268.54999999999995

2341 ranks 49 QS 8 AP 264.82

295 ranks 50 QS 8 AP 260.21999999999997

1726 ranks 51 QS 8 AP 255.83999999999997

1323 ranks 52 QS 8 AP 252.70000000000002

45 ranks 53 QS 8 AP 247.10000000000002

842 ranks 54 QS 8 AP 219.06000000000003

1710 ranks 55 QS 8 AP 210.67

3132 ranks 56 QS 8 AP 206.92

70 ranks 57 QS 6 AP 392.9000000000001

125 ranks 58 QS 6 AP 301.32

1987 ranks 59 QS 6 AP 299.14

2630 ranks 60 QS 6 AP 288.78000000000003

4472 ranks 61 QS 6 AP 288.77

222 ranks 62 QS 6 AP 285.63

1405 ranks 63 QS 6 AP 276.45

4607 ranks 64 QS 6 AP 268.39

1772 ranks 65 QS 6 AP 267.61

1378 ranks 66 QS 6 AP 248.04

1325 ranks 67 QS 6 AP 247.32999999999998

4522 ranks 68 QS 6 AP 229.12

3944 ranks 69 QS 6 AP 223.57000000000002

4641 ranks 70 QS 6 AP 222.11999999999998

744 ranks 71 QS 6 AP 221.41

358 ranks 72 QS 6 AP 213.47

95 ranks 73 QS 6 AP 209.39

3481 ranks 74 QS 6 AP 206.31

4567 ranks 75 QS 6 AP 198.47

4797 ranks 76 QS 6 AP 193.17

3941 ranks 77 QS 6 AP 192.03

337 ranks 78 QS 6 AP 176.82

2809 ranks 79 QS 6 AP 169.83

4541 ranks 80 QS 6 AP 155.59

3018 ranks 81 QS 4 AP 353.45

1912 ranks 82 QS 4 AP 310.22999999999996

422 ranks 83 QS 4 AP 303.04

1629 ranks 84 QS 4 AP 289.67

4026 ranks 85 QS 4 AP 273.53999999999996

1675 ranks 86 QS 4 AP 233.59999999999997

151 ranks 87 QS 4 AP 223.98999999999998

2978 ranks 88 QS 4 AP 222.25

3211 ranks 89 QS 4 AP 222.17999999999998

467 ranks 90 QS 4 AP 206.90000000000003

1086 ranks 91 QS 4 AP 185.24

4502 ranks 92 QS 4 AP 183.11999999999995

1429 ranks 93 QS 2 AP 319.08

1801 ranks 94 QS 2 AP 239.52

4462 ranks 95 QS 2 AP 232.34000000000003

2046 ranks 96 QS 2 AP 211.32000000000002

578 ranks 97 QS 2 AP 202.04

4481 ranks 98 QS 2 AP 190.07000000000002

384 ranks 99 QS 0 AP 256.34999999999997

2259 ranks 100 QS 0 AP 214.72

That's based off of max OPR and max auto OPR.

Here's some interesting data of how OPR of teams affects their rank. (assuming auto OPR stays the same - don't take this too seriously) It uses a range of +/- 30 OPR and when their rank changes, outputs it. (so "2000 ranks 39 when OPR is 33.56411516" means that 2000 with rank 39 until their OPR hits the next rank (35.964115160000034))

Code:

2000 ranks 39 when OPR is 33.56411516

2000 ranks 27 when OPR is 35.964115160000034

2000 ranks 14 when OPR is 39.86411516000009

2000 ranks 8 when OPR is 41.06411516000011

2000 ranks 1 when OPR is 41.664115160000115

610 ranks 26 when OPR is 33.0038438

610 ranks 14 when OPR is 38.10384380000007

610 ranks 9 when OPR is 58.40384380000036

610 ranks 2 when OPR is 61.003843800000396

1425 ranks 68 when OPR is 22.09360772

1425 ranks 53 when OPR is 24.493607720000035

1425 ranks 23 when OPR is 27.893607720000084

1425 ranks 11 when OPR is 40.89360772000027

1425 ranks 3 when OPR is 46.293607720000345

111 ranks 40 when OPR is 39.85229065

111 ranks 23 when OPR is 45.852290650000086

111 ranks 11 when OPR is 49.55229065000014

111 ranks 4 when OPR is 52.25229065000018

2474 ranks 23 when OPR is 31.585913050000002

2474 ranks 11 when OPR is 32.68591305000002

2474 ranks 5 when OPR is 43.38591305000017

118 ranks 57 when OPR is 55.628024249999996

118 ranks 40 when OPR is 58.62802425000004

118 ranks 25 when OPR is 64.82802425000007

118 ranks 10 when OPR is 79.62802424999923

118 ranks 6 when OPR is 82.62802424999906

118 ranks 1 when OPR is 90.32802424999862

4452 ranks 26 when OPR is 21.243232550000002

4452 ranks 11 when OPR is 25.24323255000006

4452 ranks 7 when OPR is 44.84323255000034

4452 ranks 1 when OPR is 68.84323255000034

1114 ranks 25 when OPR is 73.8888838

1114 ranks 14 when OPR is 86.38888379999929

1114 ranks 8 when OPR is 89.98888379999909

1114 ranks 1 when OPR is 109.98888379999795

1806 ranks 41 when OPR is 38.80843874

1806 ranks 28 when OPR is 42.80843874000006

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2259 ranks 73 when OPR is 31.772077000000163

2259 ranks 53 when OPR is 32.47207700000017

2259 ranks 36 when OPR is 32.57207700000017

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2000 ranks 14 when OPR is 39.86411516000009

2000 ranks 8 when OPR is 41.06411516000011

2000 ranks 1 when OPR is 41.664115160000115

610 ranks 14 when OPR is 38.10384380000007

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118 ranks 1 when OPR is 90.32802424999862

4452 ranks 11 when OPR is 25.24323255000006

4452 ranks 7 when OPR is 44.84323255000034

4452 ranks 1 when OPR is 68.84323255000034

1114 ranks 14 when OPR is 86.38888379999929

1114 ranks 8 when OPR is 89.98888379999909

1114 ranks 1 when OPR is 109.98888379999795

1806 ranks 14 when OPR is 54.90843874000023

1806 ranks 9 when OPR is 58.70843874000028

1806 ranks 3 when OPR is 71.90843873999991

27 ranks 10 when OPR is 53.02187717000039

2502 ranks 11 when OPR is 32.55802053000008

2502 ranks 2 when OPR is 80.85802052999956

3284 ranks 12 when OPR is 32.62419096000014

3284 ranks 8 when OPR is 62.82419096000057

3528 ranks 13 when OPR is 39.816632340000325

3528 ranks 8 when OPR is 44.9166323400004

3528 ranks 1 when OPR is 59.2166323400006

2648 ranks 14 when OPR is 54.236740760000394

2648 ranks 8 when OPR is 58.63674076000046

2648 ranks 2 when OPR is 66.53674076000038

4069 ranks 15 when OPR is 35.43777007000025

4069 ranks 11 when OPR is 62.33777007000063

4579 ranks 11 when OPR is 48.805130570000465

2169 ranks 12 when OPR is 75.21663116999967

4601 ranks 12 when OPR is 54.5221462500005

4492 ranks 12 when OPR is 28.310067410000133

2512 ranks 12 when OPR is 76.65348686999985

3189 ranks 12 when OPR is 47.0867214000004

3189 ranks 3 when OPR is 50.986721400000455

2338 ranks 12 when OPR is 52.74507922000049

2338 ranks 4 when OPR is 71.9450792200002

1477 ranks 12 when OPR is 80.3009113199993

1477 ranks 6 when OPR is 91.50091131999866

1241 ranks 11 when OPR is 69.48758944000024

447 ranks 14 when OPR is 97.54083815999844

2729 ranks 14 when OPR is 81.71600568999942

2729 ranks 8 when OPR is 85.5160056899992

2834 ranks 15 when OPR is 32.10228111000019

2834 ranks 9 when OPR is 50.80228111000046

3641 ranks 14 when OPR is 44.449048920000386

3641 ranks 10 when OPR is 60.34904892000061

3641 ranks 3 when OPR is 70.14904892000031

2907 ranks 15 when OPR is 65.70967568000057

329 ranks 10 when OPR is 67.99778617000042

329 ranks 3 when OPR is 68.99778617000037

2403 ranks 11 when OPR is 64.83633924000054

245 ranks 11 when OPR is 85.19447119999931

4039 ranks 15 when OPR is 85.18947447999929

4334 ranks 8 when OPR is 63.78751016000064

192 ranks 10 when OPR is 61.48977448000061

192 ranks 4 when OPR is 64.98977448000059

2485 ranks 10 when OPR is 85.31548567999926

4011 ranks 11 when OPR is 32.617947110000166

2175 ranks 9 when OPR is 79.84806859999969

70 ranks 11 when OPR is 61.61676325000064

125 ranks 9 when OPR is 76.77025806999987

2630 ranks 11 when OPR is 69.31409213000036

358 ranks 11 when OPR is 55.98091075000053

358 ranks 4 when OPR is 59.08091075000058

1675 ranks 10 when OPR is 47.4171563000004

So that means these teams have the potential to be in the top 15:

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That's 43 teams!

Re: Galileo Division 2013

In other news. We'll see what happens tomorrow.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

What was the announcement about scoring changes?

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The scores of the first 5 matches were fixed because they were miscounted. The only match which the outcome was different was match 3 in which the blue alliance actually won

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Originally Posted by Cody Burd (Post 1267403)

The scores of the first 5 matches were fixed because they were miscounted. The only match which the outcome was different was match 3 in which the blue alliance actually won

So when are they going to change the official scores?

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I believe that they have because blue is now listed as winning match 3

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Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1267402)

What was the announcement about scoring changes?

After asking the referee and FTA about this (we were in match 3 where the outcome changed and we were confused as to why we suddenly ranked as though we'd lost), we were told that there was some miscommunication between the two scoring tables, resulting in the autonomous points being counted twice. They figured this out and adjusted the scores as necessary.

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Originally Posted by LeelandS (Post 1267453)

That doesn't seem right. Here is the original FMS tweet for galileo match 3

Quote:

#FRCGalileo TY Q MC 3 RF 94 BF 92 RA 2000 3528 1405 BA 1801 2502 2338 RC 20 BC 20 RFP 3 BFP 3 RAS 42 BAS 22 RTS 29 BTS 47

This shows a Red Autonomous score of 42 and a Blue Autonomous score of 22. It shows a Final score of Red 94 and Blue 92. The current match results show a final score of Red 73, Blue 81, which does show that they removed half of the auto scores. However, that means that Red scored 21 in Auto and Blue scored 11 in Auto. It is impossible to have odd scores in Auto, as each of the three possibilities are even (6, 4, or 2).

Either the original Auto score was correct, or something else was wrong. Cutting the Auto scores in half was definitely wrong.

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Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1267454)

Either the original Auto score was correct, or something else was wrong. Cutting the Auto scores in half was definitely wrong.

You may be on to something. The match results page and the standings page are 404'ing for me, but not on other fields. Possibly a change being made.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

Getting our asses handed to us...currently 0-3 :(

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1266285)

Don't like the predictions? Go out and prove them wrong :)

Ok.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1267454)

That doesn't seem right. Here is the original FMS tweet for galileo match 3

This shows a Red Autonomous score of 42 and a Blue Autonomous score of 22. It shows a Final score of Red 94 and Blue 92. The current match results show a final score of Red 73, Blue 81, which does show that they removed half of the auto scores. However, that means that Red scored 21 in Auto and Blue scored 11 in Auto. It is impossible to have odd scores in Auto, as each of the three possibilities are even (6, 4, or 2).

Either the original Auto score was correct, or something else was wrong. Cutting the Auto scores in half was definitely wrong.

The corrected stats were not retweeted. However, the Match Results page on the FIRST webpage does reflect the corrected match totals. As was announced, only the first 5 matches were adjusted for this problem. When I recomputed the stats, cutting the AP points in halve as originally reported, I was able to tie to the adjusted match totals.

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1267404)

So when are they going to change the official scores?

BUT....I also discovered that none of those reduced AP amounts have been applied to the Team Standings page. This means that there are a lot of teams that have less AP than they think when the judges correct this. What's more, my analysis has also led me to think at least one of the original AP figures was correct, AND if this is true it would possibly render the match a tie. I am going to attempt to discuss my findings with officials first thing in the morning.

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The auto discs were counted both as auto discs and teleop discs (the number entered for teleop was the total discs in the goal). This is why the AP was unchanged after the scores were corrected.

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The webcast and updates from Galileo are having issues.

1. There was no audio for the 1st 10 matches Friday morning.
2. The 4FX match results have not been updated with any Friday matches (as of match 62)
3. The realtime score banner on the webcast is being omitted from multiple matches.
4. the match results match from champs page goes to 404

Hopefully someone who is at the event, can ask the field crew to help fix a few of these issues.

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Does anybody know why the scores aren't updating for Galileo on the USFIRST website?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1267573)

3. The realtime score banner on the webcast is being omitted from multiple matches.

To make up for it, it's showing the real-time score during the commercials ;)

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Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1267573)

I am having the same issues as well. The Match results page (when it does load) is only updated to Friday's matches, same with the rankings. Seems rather odd...

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I'm having the same problem as well. Results on the FIRST website and on FRC Spyder update for all the other divisions, but have been spotty for Galileo. :mad:

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The 404 error on the link from the Championship page is due to an extra space in the URL.

Correct match results url:
http://www2.usfirst.org/2013comp/eve...chresults.html

Incorrect URL from Championship page:
http://www2.usfirst.org/2013comp/eve...esults.html%20

That doesn't directly explain why the results aren't being updated, but it does make me wonder if there's a similar typo in the script or whatever that's supposed to be posting the results...

-Steve Tarr
Mentor, team 1425

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...And I now see that the match results are up to date. I guess someone found the problem and fixed it during the lunch break.

Thank you, whoever you are!

-Steve Tarr
mentor, team 1425

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Quote:

Originally Posted by STarr (Post 1267589)

And now both are down!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CLandrum3081 (Post 1267588)

I'm having the same problem as well. Results on the FIRST website and on FRC Spyder update for all the other divisions, but have been spotty for Galileo. :mad:

The FRC Spyder server gets its data from the FIRST server, so if the FIRST server isn't updating properly, then there will be the inconsistent data in the app. The app is working fine, unfortunately it's just not getting able to get the data that it needs for Galileo. FIRST is aware that there is a problem. We'll see when it gets resolved.

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Its killing me not knowing the rankings! I have to watch the feed very carefully just to see the match results...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterChief1732 (Post 1267612)

I have to watch the feed very carefully just to see the match results...

The match results are still being tweeted. https://twitter.com/frcfms

Re: Galileo Division 2013

The results and rankings seem to be back up and were just updated to match 85. I hope it keeps working!

Re: Galileo Division 2013

118 just won their match and guaranteed themselves the #1 seed.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

QF4-1: Redabot1 pushes Blueabot1 into Blueabot2 who is climbing. Blueabot2 falls off the tower.

Penalty? Refs said no. I feel like it should be a 30pt climb+tfoul.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

On another note, the 1241, 610, 1477 QF-2 was really exciting, with both alliances scoring over 200 points. Who knows what the third match will bring? It seems like traffic is going to become a problem.

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SF 1-1.

43 fouls points for red. Did anyone hear what they were for?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1267860)

SF 1-1.

43 fouls points for red. Did anyone hear what they were for?

G30 preventing a climb, both times it seems. 1114 awarded full 30 point climb as well.

Re: Galileo Division 2013

So many high-profile matches lost because of Technical Fouls...

WOW! Team 610 heads to the finals! Ontario and the Lone Star state looking for Einstein!

Amazing play and hats off to all the teams!

Congrats to Crescent School and Team 610!

Re: Galileo Division 2013

I think it's time for the feather boas to come back

Re: Galileo Division 2013

1241, 1477, and 610 are heading to Einstein!