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joelg236 18-04-2013 11:47

Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
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Originally Posted by holygrail (Post 1263827)
A VERY awesome FCS with a 20 point climb and 20 point dump as well. Also did I mention that they can shoot from the pyramid well too.

I'm curious how reliable the 20 point dump is. I've seen a lot of unreliable dumps this year.

Anyone know how long the climb takes?

Kris Troha 18-04-2013 11:52

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1425 is another FCS (Central Washington Regional Winner) with ability to strafe and shoot if blocked.

http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2013wase2_f1m2

JohnFogarty 18-04-2013 12:22

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Team 1772 should have a FCS blocker.
They proved to be a successful blocker against 836 at palmetto. I'm designing a simple retractable FCS blocker that extends to 84".

I would keep an eye on them as a second pick if they don't end up seeding up top, which they have had a lot of luck seeding pretty high this season.

Like I said they are a pretty reliable 3 Shot Auto, and with the accuracy adjustments we've made their driver control should contend with the best cyclers.

hiyou102 18-04-2013 14:15

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Originally Posted by John_1102 (Post 1264241)
Team 1772 should have a FCS blocker.
They proved to be a successful blocker against 836 at palmetto. I'm designing a simple retractable FCS blocker that extends to 84".

I didn't see them blocking FRS at WCFR. I think could be a very good blocker though.

zachmartin1806 18-04-2013 14:21

Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
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Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1264224)
I'm curious how reliable the 20 point dump is. I've seen a lot of unreliable dumps this year.

Anyone know how long the climb takes?

We were getting a climb and dump in an average of 24 seconds at Oklahoma (once at the pyramid) however we have a solution to make this faster for worlds.

Here is a video of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr90...e_gdata_player

Cory 18-04-2013 14:31

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Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1264215)

1114 is going to have a tough time, as a lot of people have said, ranking extremely high. I'm really hopeful their climb and dump put them so far ahead that auto won't matter, but that's to be seen. (who would have guessed they would rank 66 last year!)[/size]

Their climb and dump don't really have the ability to put them ahead. They need to finish with more wins than everyone else or they aren't going to seed first (unless they end up with a lot of partners who can run 5-7 disc auto). The number of points they score in the endgame won't help that.

joelg236 18-04-2013 16:23

Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1264314)
Their climb and dump don't really have the ability to put them ahead. They need to finish with more wins than everyone else or they aren't going to seed first (unless they end up with a lot of partners who can run 5-7 disc auto). The number of points they score in the endgame won't help that.

That's what I was referring to. 50 points does have the capability to win matches.

joelg236 18-04-2013 16:55

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Here's some updated stats. Please keep updating the pit scouting spreadsheet guys. I just set up the spreadsheet to update from there, so until I have some time to research that's all I can get.

PayneTrain 18-04-2013 17:38

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At the end of the day, it's all points, right? I look at it this way.

I picked a qualification match for 1114 that looked like what I imagine most qualification matches to be: they'll will hit all of their auto points, make 11 white discs in 3 cycles, and make their 50-point play at the end.

Let's pick 118 as its analogue. Very high OPR that squeezes out extra points through its floor pickup. In a qualification match with 254 that I picked, I believe they went 6/7 on auto, made 5 cycles but missed 4 discs, and got their 10-point endgame.

1114 barely edged it out in this case, but 118 runs a cleaner game in auto or teleop where Simbots are pretty much maxed in each section of the game. 1114 would be hard pressed to get a 4th teleop cycle in their current routine.

However, the dynamics of this division depends on who seeds first. If it's a floor pickup machine with a perfect 7-disc auto, they would probably pick 1114 and make their second pick a robot that could reliably deposit the discs they and 1114 can't get in their routines. If it's 1114, they have a pick of the most reliable 7-disc auto. If it's neither of those, I assume you have a very strong pure cycler. They HAVE to pick a 7-disc auto machine but if a lower seed can create an alliance with 1114 and a floor pickup machine, it would be a tight match.

AutoPilot2020 18-04-2013 17:46

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Another thing to remember is that the current world high score is held by a cycler (1114), pickup (2056), and a full court shooter (4069). In our second regional we had programming issues, and they should be fixed for Thursday! Watch our for our laser beams!

Jonathan Norris 18-04-2013 18:02

Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1264442)
I picked a qualification match for 1114 that looked like what I imagine most qualification matches to be: they'll will hit all of their auto points, make 11 white discs in 3 cycles, and make their 50-point play at the end.

I don't think I've ever seen 1114 do only 3 cycles, usually 4-5 before their climb, unless there is really heavy D on them. They have a large Teleop+Endgame points advantage on the field.

joelg236 18-04-2013 20:59

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http://goo.gl/med1D

Automatically updating page with stats from pit scouting and our team's research. If there's any stats you'd like on it let me know.

Boe 18-04-2013 21:06

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Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1264538)
http://goo.gl/med1D

Automatically updating page with stats from pit scouting and our team's research. If there's any stats you'd like on it let me know.

If im not mistaken 2512 has an octocanum drive not mecanum

falconmaster 18-04-2013 21:09

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Our new 5 disk autonomous!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_fSJ...ature=youtu.be

this is our practice bot, will transfer code to competition bot at championships.

joelg236 18-04-2013 21:09

Re: Galileo Division 2013
 
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Originally Posted by Boe (Post 1264542)
If im not mistaken 2512 has an octocanum drive not mecanum

I just marked robots with octocanum with macanum because I wanted to distinguish them. (low traction, etc.)


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