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868 would like a word with you.

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With the right team, pure cyclers can very effective and efficient, even more so than SOME groundloaders.

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Talk to 11, 245, 610, and 1114 to name a few. 1114 is being talked about as one of the teams most likely to win champs, and 610 has been mentioned more than a few times. I don't follow you.

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If FCS is well designed, it can beat a 60" blocker on it's own. An 84" blocker however requires some help from alliance partners. Even if the FCS is being blocked, some good ones can cycle as well. If a robot has a hastily attached 84" blocker that doesn't move that can mean they are trapped in their zone all match while the FCS is cycling.

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353 did have some easy matches but others we had to do all the work and carry our alliance and we have since modified our bot to do 60-80 points a match

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1114 is the exception to this but I think auto is so important that in Championships they will encounter opponents with a much stronger auto then before that will beat them

Also all the robots that I said have a 7 disc auto were one's I found using the Google Doc scouting sheets for championships. Sorry if some of my information was wrong

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After looking back at their list on the pitscouting sheet i believe you are correct considering they have the infinity symbol listed as max opr:yikes:

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Although I will say auto is important it is not the be all end all of strategy. At South Florida the only 2 teams with the ability to pick up and score disks in auto finished rank 6 and 36 respectively, They teamed up in alliance against my team and in each of our matches with them we started autonomous 20 points behind each time and won those matches by 5 and 36 points.

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For Curie Division, honest thoughts about our robot team 1262, and what could help us get picked for elims, (adding lexan shield, we are going to work on shooting a bit faster and backing up to feeder quicker).

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No doubt auto is important, but is it necessary to have more than 1 or 2 ground pickup bots? Also, i like to classify teams like 118 and 1986 as hybrid cyclers. they have floor pickups that they utilize for auto, but from match play, it seems that they prefer to cycle.

Also, i'm willing to bet all of my internet points that 610, 11, 245, and 125 will go very early during alliance selection. Cycling ability is important, and these teams are good enough to keep pace with floor pickups.

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If MSC gave us any preview, floor pick-ups were the main attraction. With 4 out of 6 in the finals (469, 2054, 2337 and 3539). The the last two robots? effectively were FCS. The majority of pure cycle bots did not make it so far.

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You and 1541 have the disadvantage of only attending one event in a stacked division, but I can see both of you guys adding a cycle and maybe getting picked.

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It's all a matter of circumstance. At MAR champs, 3 robots in the finals were cyclers with no ground pickup

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But also keep in mind there were no FCS's in MAR Champs finals (2729 don't count as they were a cycler 99% of the time), and each alliance had one ground pickup.

Especially given auto, I think it's a given that no alliance on Einstein will be strictly cyclers.

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Oh yeah, a strictly cycler alliance won't work at champs, but a strict cycler on the right team (FCS-cycler-groundpickup for example) will be viable.