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dwodrich 18-04-2013 09:57

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
I like those picks...thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1264156)
Here are my predictions :) First Time Ever and I'm sure i'll get it wrong lol

Archimedes

1) 987 HIGHROLLERS

2) 868 TechHOUNDS

3) 1334 Red Devils

Curie

1) 2056 OP Robotics

2) 1706 Ratchet Rockers

3) 4080 Team Reboot

Galileo

1) 1114 Simbotics

2) 3528 UP Next!

3) 1806 S.W.A.T

Newton

1) 1986 Team Titanium

2) 3284 LASER Robotics

3) 2471 Team Mean Machine


JesseK 18-04-2013 10:08

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1263880)
We have a robot like that....I figure we have a 50-50 chance of getting into elims, and a 1 in 8 chance of winning division, if we get to play.

Totally agree, for an average cycler.

My only prediction:
The teams who up their game to rise above the pack will have a better shot -- yet the stats won't lie, and reliability will be huge. It also may come down to luck of the draw, as many alliances across the divisions will want 'full backs' or purely defensive robots.

Getting a taste of elims last year has made all the difference in our team's tenacity this year.

It's all about how honest a team is with themselves, and then figuring out a plan to move themselves up:
  • Honest starting point: we've only done 2 cycles on a field due to jams -- but the driver is capable of doing more, because he's done more in practice with a simpler bot
  • I've been searching for a 36T 20DP 0.502" hex broached gear just to save ourselves 3 seconds of match time over 4 cycles, which should give us that last cycle as we decide to hang. I could do 40:44 instead of 36:48, but I'm worried we'd lose critical turning agility at speed.
  • Fixing the shooter jams should give us 2 extra cycles.
  • Putting a more powerful motor on our launcher to reduce time between shots should give us an extra cycle.
  • Shooting from the corner would allow alliance partners who depend on the rear-center of the pyramid to do as they please without interference -- so an average cycler-team could practice that as much as possible. Reduced time of travel may also give an extra 3-4 seconds in the match. Corner shooting from the unprotected side also has a tendency to draw in some penalties from the other alliance.

Joe195 18-04-2013 12:25

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1264156)
Here are my predictions :) First Time Ever and I'm sure i'll get it wrong lol

Archimedes

1) 987 HIGHROLLERS

2) 868 TechHOUNDS

3) 1334 Red Devils

Curie

1) 2056 OP Robotics

2) 1706 Ratchet Rockers

3) 4080 Team Reboot

Galileo

1) 1114 Simbotics

2) 3528 UP Next!

3) 1806 S.W.A.T

Newton

1) 1986 Team Titanium

2) 3284 LASER Robotics

3) 2471 Team Mean Machine

Great picks!

Bob Steele 18-04-2013 12:55

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1264156)
Here are my predictions :) First Time Ever and I'm sure i'll get it wrong lol

Archimedes

1) 987 HIGHROLLERS

2) 868 TechHOUNDS

3) 1334 Red Devils

Curie

1) 2056 OP Robotics

2) 1706 Ratchet Rockers

3) 4080 Team Reboot

Galileo

1) 1114 Simbotics

2) 3528 UP Next!

3) 1806 S.W.A.T

Newton

1) 1986 Team Titanium

2) 3284 LASER Robotics

3) 2471 Team Mean Machine

2471 on Newton is a great pick!! They will compliment any alliance and have great experience...

David8696 18-04-2013 13:09

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arpan (Post 1263863)
Agreed, however, the right full court shooter with the right counter-defender can be a devestating combination. Don't count out full court shooters as point scorers yet!

Exactly. Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVmN-lRZhU0 The fact that team 968 was such a spectacular blocker, along with 1538's great ground pickup, to both "clean up" our missed shots and do some cycles, was the reason our full-court shooter was able to be so effective in this match. To use a football metaphor, without an offensive line and a good wide receiver, the even the best quarterback in the world wouldn't amount to anything. But with both of the two... he can absolutely dominate a game.

Jaxom 18-04-2013 13:09

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1264156)
Here are my predictions...

Galileo
1) 1114 Simbotics
2) 3528 UP Next!
3) 1806 S.W.A.T

Having been in tournaments with both Up Next! and S.W.A.T. this year, I will say that if they perform like they're capable of doing, I'll be very surprised if they're available to be on the same alliance. Especially to the #1 or #2 seed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1264156)
Newton
1) 1986 Team Titanium
2) 3284 LASER Robotics
3) 2471 Team Mean Machine

Thanks (to you and everyone else that's mentioned us like this) for the vote of confidence; I hope we deliver. Having been in tournaments with Camdenton before, and seeing video of them this year, that's an interesting alliance. I haven't seen 2471 this season, but with 2 Regional wins, being #1 & #2 pick, they sure must be doing something right. ;)

EDIT: It'd be really interesting alliance, as has been pointed out to me by a teammate offline. 3284 is in Galileo....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1264156)
First Time Ever and I'm sure i'll get it wrong lol

If CMP was predictable it'd be no fun. Besides, *someone* might be right; why not you? :)

yarden.saa 18-04-2013 14:01

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Curie: 2056 of course with 67 and 1577 very effective blocker...

CrazyMohawk 18-04-2013 14:33

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1264156)
Here are my predictions :) First Time Ever and I'm sure i'll get it wrong lol

Archimedes

1) 987 HIGHROLLERS

2) 868 TechHOUNDS

3) 1334 Red Devils

Curie

1) 2056 OP Robotics

2) 1706 Ratchet Rockers

3) 4080 Team Reboot

Galileo

1) 1114 Simbotics

2) 3528 UP Next!

3) 1806 S.W.A.T

Newton

1) 1986 Team Titanium

2) 3284 LASER Robotics

3) 2471 Team Mean Machine

thanks for the pick

zachmartin1806 18-04-2013 14:38

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1264156)
Here are my predictions :) First Time Ever and I'm sure i'll get it wrong lol

Archimedes

1) 987 HIGHROLLERS

2) 868 TechHOUNDS

3) 1334 Red Devils

Curie

1) 2056 OP Robotics

2) 1706 Ratchet Rockers

3) 4080 Team Reboot

Galileo

1) 1114 Simbotics

2) 3528 UP Next!

3) 1806 S.W.A.T

Newton

1) 1986 Team Titanium

2) 3284 LASER Robotics

3) 2471 Team Mean Machine

Thanks for considering us

benherms 18-04-2013 14:44

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1264116)
Huh? I'm puzzled about how we could have been doing 7-disk autonomous for 3 regionals without ground pickup. :eek:

You guys do have great ground pickup, but I think the person that posted what you quoted was referring to the fact that you cycle a lot in your matches.
Great robot this year and team 195 looks forward to competing with you and all the other great teams in newton.

themccannman 18-04-2013 14:51

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1264116)
Huh? I'm puzzled about how we could have been doing 7-disk autonomous for 3 regionals without ground pickup. :eek:

What I meant by that comment was that you do ground pick up for autonomous but you seem to favor feeder station pick-up for tele op. Unless you guys completely change your strategy for champs i'm guessing that you are going to continue with feeder station pick-up. The main point I was trying to get at is that you can run cycles which compliments a powerful ground pick up robot much better than another ground-pick-up-only bot would, this helps you in two ways:

1) You can pick from the best ground pick up bots and use them to their full potential without fighting for frisbees.

2) You are a more attractive pick for powerful ground pick up bots since they don't want to have to fight with their alliance partners for frisbees.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMadCADer (Post 1264093)
As a couple others have stated, it seems unlikely that 1114 will seed first, as long as their own autonomous points are capped at 18 (unless they add a magic weightless floor pickup, which I could actually see them doing). A good 7-disc autonomous team (the best on Galileo are probably the two from Texas that do it) should be able to finish with the same record as them, but more autonomous points.

I agree they are unlikely to seed first, however they are still and extremely powerful team that is likely to get picked by a ground pick up bot due to the reason stated above ^^^

M. Lillis 18-04-2013 14:55

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efoote868 (Post 1264036)
I know Archimedes is deep, but I doubt it'll be deep enough for 71 to go as a 2nd pick. Even with near perfect scouting, teams with a reputation like Hammond rarely go last.

Don't forget that the Bobcats 177 were picked 2nd round in 2010. So a big name does not guarantee an instant pick.

stephenmcd71 18-04-2013 15:09

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Lillis (Post 1264328)
Don't forget that the Bobcats 177 were picked 2nd round in 2010. So a big name does not guarantee an instant pick.

Thats true look last year at 16 they were a second pick and they were phenomenal throughout the season

Kevin Leonard 18-04-2013 15:47

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
I predict another rookie goes to Einstein in some way shape or form.

Koko Ed 18-04-2013 16:06

Re: Make your Champs predictions!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Lillis (Post 1264328)
Don't forget that the Bobcats 177 were picked 2nd round in 2010. So a big name does not guarantee an instant pick.

People always obsess over the big names.


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