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qzrrbz 18-04-2013 08:51

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arpan (Post 1264107)
This is somewhat related:

Who, (other than us), has so far met a full court shooter good enough that a robot could be used to play counter-blocker? We won the Northern lights with King Tec as a robot that specialized in keeping blockers from touching full court shooters. Any reason why I haven't seen many others playing the same strategy?

Look at what happened in MSC F-1 without a blocker and come to your own conclusion! ;)

Justin Shelley 18-04-2013 08:57

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arpan (Post 1264107)
This is somewhat related:

Who, (other than us), has so far met a full court shooter good enough that a robot could be used to play counter-blocker? We won the Northern lights with King Tec as a robot that specialized in keeping blockers from touching full court shooters. Any reason why I haven't seen many others playing the same strategy?

When we were on an alliance with 1706 our job was to park in front of them and make sure a FCS blocker didn't block their shots. The results were spectactular! 1706 has one of the best FCS i've seen

Akash Rastogi 18-04-2013 09:03

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
I HAVE to put 2495 here. Just watch this match on the right hand side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly62dYKShOM

2495 put on an elevating blocker for this match just to beat 225 and it worked beautifully. One of my favorite matches of the season.

karomata 18-04-2013 10:09

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
I noticed at Boston, 125 and 126 had 1511 with them, who were able to use their climber as a defensive measure that could extend above the initial height. Without them, 3173's amazing full court shooter may have beat 125 and 126.

DjScribbles 18-04-2013 12:29

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
I like to think our blocker is pretty effective, and very slick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1AO...eZbYOGB3Kd9wHV

You can hardly see it in the video, but you can see that it is working.

Edit: We are the center blue robot in the video.

Ben Martin 18-04-2013 12:44

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
We have been blocked by/were attempted to be blocked by:

Aluminum angle
Duct tape
Clementine box netting
Fishing line
PVC
T-shirts
Lexan
Acrylic
Pool noodles
A rake
Wind sock
PVC
A mini hula hoop
103's climber
A "flag" rotated up by a window motor

People put all sorts of stuff on their blockers (mostly team logos by using a t-shirt). 2495 put a troll face on theirs.

1391, 1626, 2495, 103, 433, 4285, and maybe some other teams I'm forgetting all built extendable blockers to contend with us and 303 at MAR champs. Some were stronger than others; 2495's and 433's were pretty beat up by the end of the match, though they were still blocking shots.

David8696 18-04-2013 13:11

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arpan (Post 1264107)
This is somewhat related:

Who, (other than us), has so far met a full court shooter good enough that a robot could be used to play counter-blocker? We won the Northern lights with King Tec as a robot that specialized in keeping blockers from touching full court shooters. Any reason why I haven't seen many others playing the same strategy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVmN-lRZhU0
Sorry to be "that guy" and refer to my own team, but 968 is a perfect example of what you're talking about - and they do it brilliantly.

Jake177 18-04-2013 18:58

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
Team 558 proved themselves to be a very good full-court blocker at the CT Regional. Their shield is retractable, so they can block above 60", but still go anywhere on the field. They also have a drivetrain that will stand up to just about anything. This video shows them neutralizing 195 very effectively.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxF3fjgPD08

S.P.A.M.er 18-04-2013 20:17

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BMartin 234 (Post 1264250)
We have been blocked by/were attempted to be blocked by:

Aluminum angle
Duct tape
Clementine box netting
Fishing line
PVC
T-shirts
Lexan
Acrylic
Pool noodles
A rake
Wind sock
PVC
A mini hula hoop
103's climber
A "flag" rotated up by a window motor

People put all sorts of stuff on their blockers (mostly team logos by using a t-shirt). 2495 put a troll face on theirs.

At south florida several teams specifically made last minute "SPAM Filters" as we love to call them. The best in my opinion was O.S.C.A.R. with their T-Shirt wall. Plus we built a rookie team a robot at the event just to be a full court/Bacon(1902) blocker.

And to any team that does use a wall against 180 SPAM, I will personally add a sticker to your robot that says "Approved SPAM Filter". I'm printing off 100s to get mentor approval as I type.

Steven Donow 18-04-2013 20:21

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1264139)
I HAVE to put 2495 here. Just watch this match on the right hand side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly62dYKShOM

2495 put on an elevating blocker for this match just to beat 225 and it worked beautifully. One of my favorite matches of the season.

This match was quite exciting for us too.

Especially great was how 225 seemed to have absolutely no hard feelings towards us and commended us on how we all did/friendly banter was had on the way back to the pits.

faust1706 18-04-2013 22:58

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Iaquinto.Joe (Post 1263970)
Our philosophy behind it was that you don't need to stop the shots, you only need to throw off the trajectory. There is one match out the where we parked in front of team 503, Frog Force, and negated all Teleop points from them that match.

teams dont realize how detrimental just a pole is to fcs. At crossroads, we were blocked by a robot that just used a pole. Prevented us from getting vision solutions, luckily when we arent getting solutions, we resort back to the last one.

Many teams are great at blocking, but their blocker is high, and so we are able to still get vision solutions, so if for a second we are able to shoot, we are locked on and ready.

Iaquinto.Joe 18-04-2013 23:47

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by faust1706 (Post 1264604)
teams dont realize how detrimental just a pole is to fcs. At crossroads, we were blocked by a robot that just used a pole. Prevented us from getting vision solutions, luckily when we arent getting solutions, we resort back to the last one.

Many teams are great at blocking, but their blocker is high, and so we are able to still get vision solutions, so if for a second we are able to shoot, we are locked on and ready.

Well our pole wasn't used for vision blocking, just normal blocking.

Steven Sigley 19-04-2013 01:35

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
We blocked 2169 enough to win against them in qualifying matches. When we picked them for our alliance and prevented others from blocking them it was ridiculously effective to the tune of 200+ points...
http://youtu.be/_pQYjWn_LxE?t=2m20s

Dorr 19-04-2013 02:34

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
I have to say that the best full courter blocker that I saw it from team 1577 steampunk from Israel!!
that is a video from the finals in the Israeli Regional:
http://youtu.be/1rKuyx3RQD0?t=46s

Tottanka 19-04-2013 06:26

Re: Best full court shooter blockers
 
I had an idea.
A 60'' robot attaches a white disk at the start of match to it's blocker, vertically aligned.
This will give them a blocking height of about 70'', while they are still able to cross half field. Is that correct?
Is there anything you guys think that makes this illegal?


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