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Mike Martus 26-04-2013 08:46

Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
What are opinions about the opening ceremonies feed not being sent to divisions. The divisions are full of paying customers that cannot see it.

I think it is a big blunder on the part of FIRST.

Other opinions?

connor.worley 26-04-2013 08:58

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
I doubt anyone's going to move. Definitely a blunder.

arizonafoxx 26-04-2013 09:00

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
Did the opening ceremonies get sent to the webcasts? I have never missed an opening ceremony for Worlds yet but it looks like this will be the first year. Can't find any of the webcasts showing them. I also think its sad that they do not broadcast the ceremonies to all the field. I mean come on how hard is that to do.

Steven Donow 26-04-2013 09:02

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arizonafoxx (Post 1267534)
Did the opening ceremonies get sent to the webcasts? I have never missed an opening ceremony for Worlds yet but it looks like this will be the first year. Can't find any of the webcasts showing them. I also think its sad that they do not broadcast the ceremonies to all the field. I mean come on how hard is that to do.

It will be webcast on the Einstein stream

Akash Rastogi 26-04-2013 09:30

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
Einstein is streaming on Gameday

http://www.thebluealliance.com/gameday#view_0=2013cmp-1

FIRST_Parent 26-04-2013 09:40

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Does anyone have a link to the fields that is iPad or iPhone compatible? None of the First or Blue Alliance links work for me.
Thanks in advance

First_Parent

Jimmy Nichols 26-04-2013 09:58

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
The Einstein feed just went down. Showing a splash screen that opening ceremonies will be held on Einstein and that the screen won't be displaying opening ceremonies.

Jimmy Nichols 26-04-2013 09:59

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols (Post 1267543)
The Einstein feed just went down. Showing a splash screen that opening ceremonies will be held on Einstein and that the screen won't be displaying opening ceremonies.

Closed and reloaded and back up!

DonRotolo 26-04-2013 10:56

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Martus (Post 1267530)
What are opinions about the opening ceremonies feed not being sent to divisions. The divisions are full of paying customers that cannot see it.

I think it is a big blunder on the part of FIRST.

Other opinions?

This is how I remember it being done since forever. I understand the logic - they want everyone to watch at Einstein - and the logistics - they are really not set up to feed one field's feed to another (although not a difficult problem to solve) - but this isn't something new.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRST_Parent (Post 1267537)
Does anyone have a link to the fields that is iPad or iPhone compatible?

I do not believe that any mobile-device-compatible feed is available. Sorry.

Jimmy Nichols 26-04-2013 11:26

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1267562)
This is how I remember it being done since forever.

I recall last year that they were fed to the other fields screens.

I was sitting on the floor at Galileo for opening. For closing I was sitting along the side of the chairs on the floor and could see the feed on Galileo's screen.

Michael Hill 26-04-2013 12:37

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
Ya, this was a terrible idea.

JohnBoucher 26-04-2013 14:31

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
They should of been on every video feed available, webcast, divisions and the pits. I hope it was a misunderstanding and not a deliberate decision.

Daniel Brim 26-04-2013 14:47

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
Since this thread has been pretty one-sided, I'll offer the devil's advocate position. If you donated thousands/millions of dollars to FIRST, would you want to be giving a speech to a mostly empty crowd?

connor.worley 26-04-2013 14:59

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Brim (Post 1267599)
Since this thread has been pretty one-sided, I'll offer the devil's advocate position. If you donated thousands/millions of dollars to FIRST, would you want to be giving a speech to a mostly empty crowd?


They didn't have enough seats to fit everyone within the viewing angle of the Einstein area. They could have at least had audio through the whole stadium.

JohnBoucher 26-04-2013 15:23

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Brim (Post 1267599)
Since this thread has been pretty one-sided, I'll offer the devil's advocate position. If you donated thousands/millions of dollars to FIRST, would you want to be giving a speech to a mostly empty crowd?

You would be reaching all those that could not make it to Einstein. The inspectors, the volunteers and the teams needing to be in the pits. If I were donating money, I certainty would expect to be webcast.

cgmv123 26-04-2013 22:36

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
The audio system on the division fields runs through a box that can bypass the board feed at the division fields and put Einstein on all the audio systems. Video wouldn't be difficult either, since all fields get the same promo feed.

It was definitely possible to put the feed on the division fields (at least on the technical side).

Tom Line 26-04-2013 22:58

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
It was a horrible decision. I understand in part why they do it. They want the stands to be full for the speakers, etc.

Here's the rub. Last year for the Einstein finals, they opened the upper level because there simply isn't enough seating on just the lower deck.

This year, they cut all the video feeds, and there wasn't nearly enough seating. We considered moving, but by the point we understood what was going on and that there would be no video or sound, the bottom level was filled 180 degrees around Einstein and there were few seats to be had. The second level was not open.

We weren't alone either. Many other teams chose not to move.

Robotmmm 26-04-2013 23:08

Re: Opening ceremonies not sent to divisions
 
We were the first match on Archimedes right after opening ceremonies. Our drive team had to be on the field and we were in the stands to watch the match. They started the match immediately after the ceremonies were done and most people were still over at Einstein. There simply was no time to walk all that way back before they started the match. We would have loved to have been able to watch on the big screen.


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