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Marc S. 27-04-2013 17:34

FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
In the dome at champs, and now especially on Einstein, the music and the game sounds are way too loud! When the music plays I can't hear the person next to me, and when the buzzer went off during the practice match, I could actually hear my eardrums breaking. Please, if your near the field, ask them to turn it down!

Also, how bout them Killer-Guerrillas-Mayhem!

shrkeatsman 27-04-2013 17:48

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
At our Galileo feild most of the time we couldnt hear anything that they were saying or the music. I dont know if this was the same for you but this is not currtently.

Bochek 27-04-2013 17:57

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
In contrast the webcast is too quiet.

Marc S. 27-04-2013 18:07

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
It might just be the in the nosebleed section but it's uncomfortable loud up here. The speeches are at a great volume, it's just the music and match sound effects.

shrkeatsman 27-04-2013 18:13

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Any one know if i can find all the matches recorded somewhere ? I'd really really like to review my matches to look for improvement.

Navid Shafa 27-04-2013 19:04

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
I'm also in nose bleed. It was too quiet to hear most guest speakers and especially Dean...

DonRotolo 27-04-2013 21:50

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Two words: ear plugs.

DjScribbles 27-04-2013 22:37

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
There were some points where the music on galileo was way too loud, but I think it was that particular song. After that, it went back to being regular-too-loud.

I understand the desire for loud music, but it does get unreasonable at times and some events.

Marc S. 27-04-2013 22:50

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It might just be me but I enjoy being able to hear the crowd, maybe even the sound of robots on the field every now and then. I understand having mushc to add emptional effect, but I couldn't even hear the person next to me. I wish I brought my decibel reader, an app on my phone (which I know is inaccurate and maxes at 110) showed an average of 95 decibels in the stands.

Jaxom 28-04-2013 03:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1268170)
Two words: ear plugs.

Truth!

DampRobot 28-04-2013 04:19

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1268170)
Two words: ear plugs.

As a drive coach, I'd worry about drivers hearing each other.

As a general statement: please turn down the music. Almost no one's here for the music. They're here for the robots.

crake 28-04-2013 07:01

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
From the sound board it seemed fine. Louder than a typical regional but not nearly as loud as a rock concert. I've been to technical conferences with keynotes louder than this.

That said, I'm sure the sound does some strange things in the dome and it is possible that it may be a lot louder in certain spots.

David Doerr 28-04-2013 07:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DampRobot (Post 1268295)
As a drive coach, I'd worry about drivers hearing each other...

http://www.earplugstore.com/herose.html

Siri 28-04-2013 08:21

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DampRobot (Post 1268295)
As a drive coach, I'd worry about drivers hearing each other.

As a general statement: please turn down the music. Almost no one's here for the music. They're here for the robots.

Actually the field wasn't bad at all. I suspect it was the acoustics of the dome, because we were pretty happy hearing each other on Newton at least.

Jon K. 28-04-2013 23:07

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It truly does depend on location. On the fields you can communicate much easier than you can in the stands. The speakers are directed towards the stands. From center of the field on Archimedes to the edge of the seating there was a drastic difference in volume levels. That being said, you have to remember that sound travels in waves, and has the potential to amplify as the waves reach the higher levels due to the construction of the speakers and the stadium.

Kit Gerhart 29-04-2013 12:02

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc S. (Post 1268003)
In the dome at champs, and now especially on Einstein, the music and the game sounds are way too loud! When the music plays I can't hear the person next to me, and when the buzzer went off during the practice match, I could actually hear my eardrums breaking. Please, if your near the field, ask them to turn it down!

Also, how bout them Killer-Guerrillas-Mayhem!

The music and PA at the events has always been too loud. It is well above the sound level allowed in work settings without requiring hearing protection.

For years, I have used ear plugs while in the stands at the events. It not only protects what is left of my hearing, but with ear plugs, it is easier to understand people talking to me.

GBK 29-04-2013 12:33

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
The sound level of the music, play by play and game announcements, depended on where you were sitting. On the Curie field we had to sit off to the side so far that we could not hear what was happening on the Curie Field. However the sound from the other field was way louder than it needed to be. Watching one field from a bad spot and hearing another field from a spot that you could not even see the field. Then during Einstein our team ended up in the nose bleed seats and they could not hear anything or see even the videos.
The Einstein problem could be solved if Einstein was set up in the long side of the dome like it was in Atlanta. That way more people could see it without having to go so high up in the arena.
If it's too loud, then I have to side with the ear plug group

JohnFogarty 29-04-2013 20:03

The problem stems from how the JBL line arrays were hanging.
I don't have the time to draw a picture, but there were 3 areas where the sound system was going to be a lot louder than the rest, and it sounds like you were in one of those hot zones.

Chi Meson 02-05-2013 18:51

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa (Post 1268059)
I'm also in nose bleed. It was too quiet to hear most guest speakers and especially Dean...

Dean may have been saying some inspirational things, but I have no clue what they might have been.

And many times, on Curie field, I could hear the FTC games and announcements much more clearly and loudly than our own matches.

JohnFogarty 02-05-2013 19:00

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Yeah...the FTC fields did have the best sound setup for some reason that I can't explain....

Mastonevich 02-05-2013 19:13

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Seriously, why are we even talking about ear plugs?

It is almost certainly at a level that hearing can be lost which for a safety culture of FIRST is completely unacceptable.

If I stopped by as a member of the public, I would just leave.

Nemo 02-05-2013 20:03

Re: FIRST Making it TOO Loud
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi Meson (Post 1271557)
Dean may have been saying some inspirational things, but I have no clue what they might have been.

And many times, on Curie field, I could hear the FTC games and announcements much more clearly and loudly than our own matches.

I could hear Archimedes better than I could hear Curie from the Curie stands.


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