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Zuelu562 01-05-2013 22:02

Re: New Perimeter Rules Reflection
 
I love the frame perimiter rule. People see 28" x 38" and said "welp, 27-27.75" by 37-37.75" "(outside of the people who think creatively and those who only use kitbot frame). As was mentioned, it allowed the creative to get more creative, it allowed those with experience with the kitbot continue to use their security blanket (the downside being people getting caught, but then again, the weight rule has been relatively standard, and it catches people every year X_X).

If the exact number on the frame perimiter rule changes (ie going from 112 to 130), it would probably be prudent to have a blue box with the reminder that most doors are X" wide, as was also mentioned.

Again, mentioned earlier, the permiter rule worked out perfectly to limit the amount of functions a single robot could perform to it's zenith (It was hard to fit a 30 point climber with a dumper on a robot with a FCS).

bardd 02-05-2013 07:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Whippet (Post 1271027)
That's not necessarily true. I remember them telling me at Hub City that they could, but didn't see it as being worth it strategically.

I don't see a way to feed disks in their robot when it's aimed at the goals, but I'll check it out. The point was to show no one can do everything (also, forgot this the first time, no dump).

vishnum 02-05-2013 09:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bardd (Post 1271214)
I don't see a way to feed disks in their robot when it's aimed at the goals, but I'll check it out. The point was to show no one can do everything (also, forgot this the first time, no dump).

What about 118? They can pick up discs, cycle, full court shoot, and climb for 30. Not sure about dumping at the top though.

Boe 02-05-2013 09:37

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Originally Posted by vishnum (Post 1271239)
What about 118? They can pick up discs, cycle, full court shoot, and climb for 30. Not sure about dumping at the top though.

they removed the climber for weight issues i believe, but i bet they could shoot very slowly into the top from what would have been their end position. Also i dont think they ever fcs except to feed discs to 254 (or maybe themselves on occasion or maybe im thinking of someone else

vishnum 02-05-2013 09:42

Re: New Perimeter Rules Reflection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boe (Post 1271242)
they removed the climber for weight issues i believe, but i bet they could shoot very slowly into the top from what would have been their end position. Also i dont think they ever fcs except to feed discs to 254 (or maybe themselves on occasion or maybe im thinking of someone else

Ah ok, I never actually watched any of their matches so I didn't know. I was just saying what I saw from their release video.

Navid Shafa 02-05-2013 18:21

Re: New Perimeter Rules Reflection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bardd (Post 1268987)
No FCS...

I think 842 surpasses 1986 in versatility. They have a climb and dump, in fact I think they could do everything but FCS.

IIRC, 842 was the most versatile robot as far as design approach/tactics goes.

joeweber 02-05-2013 18:39

Re: New Perimeter Rules Reflection
 
It would be nice if they went from 112inches to 112.25 inches than we could make full use of the kit frame holes. They seemed to line up 7/8 short or 1/8 too long.


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