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Lil' Lavery 28-04-2013 22:31

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Originally Posted by Arpan (Post 1268750)
I'd be very interested to hear a firsthand account from someone who saw this. I'm personally wondering if it takes 6 CIMs.

What possible use could you have for a 6CIM, 2-speed gearbox? Talk about overkill...

Steven Donow 28-04-2013 22:32

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1268791)
What possible use could you have for a 6CIM, 2-speed gearbox? Talk about overkill...

Exactly. Overkill :D

midway78224 28-04-2013 22:49

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Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1268770)
It does not.

They had the pneumatic shifting set up at the table and it worked well. Hopefully, we can use it in the future.

What kind of pneumatic shifter was the set up. Was it the pneumatic that comes with the super shifter now or the pancake pneumatic like on the vexpro shifters.

coalhot 28-04-2013 22:54

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1268791)
What possible use could you have for a 6CIM, 2-speed gearbox? Talk about overkill...

Dunno. Personally, I want a robot that can hit 30FPS, but that may be a little much for 2 speeds. :p

Bill_B 28-04-2013 23:20

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Perhaps I can persuade my team to sell enough lightbulbs or find a sponsor to support the purchase of a couple of these for testing. If that happens, I will study the prospect more closely. I was given to believe that the same ratios applied and that the major difference was the more linear shifting process. It was not a pancake shifter (like I saw on 254's gearbox with PTO). Here is a picture of the demo at the booth.

coalhot 28-04-2013 23:25

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Originally Posted by Bill_B (Post 1268835)
Perhaps I can persuade my team to sell enough lightbulbs or find a sponsor to support the purchase of a couple of these for testing. If that happens, I will study the prospect more closely. I was given to believe that the same ratios applied and that the major difference was the more linear shifting process. It was not a pancake shifter (like I saw on 254's gearbox with PTO). Here is a picture of the demo at the booth.

I'm liking the simplicity of the box. Can't wait to see specifics and price!

midway78224 28-04-2013 23:25

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Awesome thanks for the picture. I have wanted to see what this thing would look like since i heard about it. If it is anything like the super shifter with a centralize shaft; It would work great on my team drivetrain setup. Might even work better then the one i design for this yrs. drivetrain.

cbale2000 29-04-2013 04:24

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Originally Posted by Bill_B (Post 1268835)
Perhaps I can persuade my team to sell enough lightbulbs or find a sponsor to support the purchase of a couple of these for testing. If that happens, I will study the prospect more closely. I was given to believe that the same ratios applied and that the major difference was the more linear shifting process. It was not a pancake shifter (like I saw on 254's gearbox with PTO). Here is a picture of the demo at the booth.

Just judging by the picture it doesn't seem all that different from the super shifter. Does anyone happen to know if and what the differences are from the super shifter aside from weight (apparently)?

Richard Wallace 29-04-2013 05:50

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Originally Posted by cbale2000 (Post 1268986)
Just judging by the picture it doesn't seem all that different from the super shifter. Does anyone happen to know if and what the differences are from the super shifter aside from weight (apparently)?

I visited the AM booth at CMP, to see this and other new products. The new shifter is about half an inch taller than the original SS, is left-right symmetrical, and allows for use of 17 tooth CIM pinions as an alternative to the 12 tooth pinions used on the original SS. The demo rig pictured in Bill_B's post illustrated very smooth shifting, and is fun to play with.

I still want a RAW box. :]

thinker&planner 02-05-2013 21:18

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For those of you who didn't know, AM released some more details on the "Sonic Shifter".
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am...m_medium=email
As I am design a new practice drietrain, I am wondering if it would be possible to change the ratios so that the high ratio is around 4-4.5:1. I can't find details of 17 tooth CIM pinions used with it, or how that would change the ratio (what gear do they drive?).
Because we are using 4" (custom) wheels (in a WCD configuration) and want to directly drive one of them, sprockets aren't going to help. Is there another source for 20dp 14.5pa gears that I don't know about?

Anyway, some CAD would help;)

DampRobot 03-05-2013 01:45

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4 Lbs, even with the cylinder? I know that it's made of aluminum, and should be a bit higher performance than a Vex Pro Shifter, but that kind of weight is hard to swallow.

Mk.32 03-05-2013 02:23

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Those massive alum top and bottom pieces only seem to serve as a spacer? Can't they just be replaced with some standoffs?

DampRobot 03-05-2013 02:42

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Originally Posted by Mk.32 (Post 1271781)
Those massive alum top and bottom pieces only seem to serve as a spacer? Can't they just be replaced with some standoffs?

What I was thinking... also, are those the 20DP steel gears they are using?

Mk.32 03-05-2013 03:02

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Originally Posted by DampRobot (Post 1271782)
What I was thinking... also, are those the 20DP steel gears they are using?

AM seems to use the steel gears in there stock boxes....

http://wcproducts.net/gears-20-dp/
WCP alum gears should be a direct drop in replacement and save a nice amount of weight, they also don't need to be heavily greased.

Mike Schreiber 03-05-2013 03:08

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Originally Posted by Mk.32 (Post 1271781)
Those massive alum top and bottom pieces only seem to serve as a spacer? Can't they just be replaced with some standoffs?

I'm not sure it's that massive. If you look closely it's not just a flat piece, the center appears to be thin, so really it is just stand offs.


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