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josmee443 30-04-2013 15:10

Best Drive Train
 
What type of drive train do you guys think is the best in terms of speed, pushing force, agility (mobility), durability, and overall efficiency? Typically, my team uses regular Tank drive, though we did experiment with Mecanums a few years back.

Drivetrains:

Tank
Mecanum
Holonomic
Slide
Swerve
Any others?

peirvine 30-04-2013 15:24

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Where is the Jump Drive?

dodar 30-04-2013 15:25

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Ya, the 2 big names you left off were Octocanum and Nonadrive.

Oblarg 30-04-2013 15:31

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Swerve has always seemed to me like an unambiguous favorite if you have a good, light design and the resources to pull it off cleanly.

This offseason, 4464 is going to be looking at designing nonadrive/octanum, as that seems reasonably within our machining capabilities (we can do lasercut 1/4'' delrin, which ought to be sufficient for the wheel modules if they're designed properly) and offers a significant, strict increase in performance over slide drive/mecanum.

Anupam Goli 30-04-2013 15:33

Re: Best Drive Train
 
100% of all nine-sided drive base robots have won einstein.

Oblarg 30-04-2013 15:36

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing (Post 1270184)
100% of all nine-sided drive base robots have won einstein.

I chuckled.

Andrew Schreiber 30-04-2013 15:47

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Whatever works for your strategy.

Andrew Lawrence 30-04-2013 15:53

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1270191)
Whatever works for your strategy.

Quoted for truth. It took me a while to learn this, but in FRC, there is no universal "best" anything. Whatever works best for your team is going to give you the best results (that being said, 10 wheel nonacanumswerve drive isn't the best drivetrain).

Oblarg 30-04-2013 15:55

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence (Post 1270197)
that being said, 10 wheel nonacanumswerve drive isn't the best drivetrain

Some intrepid CADer should take the initiative and draw up a design of this for all of our entertainment. :P

jwfoss 30-04-2013 16:04

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1270191)
Whatever works for your strategy.

...and is within the resources (cost, machining, etc) for your team.

stingray27 30-04-2013 16:05

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Isn't tank drive the naming convention for the style of controls? Either way, if your using tank drive you MUST drop those center wheels. Otherwise the drive system will be useless because you wont be able to maneuver well...

Andrew Schreiber 30-04-2013 16:14

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jwfoss (Post 1270206)
...and is within the resources (cost, machining, etc) for your team.

Shouldn't those factor into your strategy? ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by stingray27 (Post 1270209)
Isn't tank drive the naming convention for the style of controls? Either way, if your using tank drive you MUST drop those center wheels. Otherwise the drive system will be useless because you wont be able to maneuver well...

NOT true at all. If your wheel base is wider than it is long... or actually, just read Chris' paper http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/1443

stingray27 30-04-2013 16:16

Re: Best Drive Train
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1270215)
Shouldn't those factor into your strategy? ;)



NOT true at all. If your wheel base is wider than it is long... or actually, just read Chris' paper http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/1443

Sorry my version of tank drive has been corrupted over the years due to how we ALWAYS have had 6-8 wheel drive and a long bot at that....:p forgot about the wide bots....

Jacob.B 30-04-2013 16:18

Re: Best Drive Train
 
On Truck Town we like tank because it works well with our transmissions that shift from low to high gear. But I would like to experiment with other drive systems and wheels, because who wouldn't want to use beast wheels like 25? :ahh: :ahh:

Jacob.B 30-04-2013 16:21

Re: Best Drive Train
 
But I also like mecanum, maybe not for our team, but for other younger teams. They get the versatility that they want without taking on the challenge of swerve, that some of the best, most experienced teams can't conquer. Just like 2010! *shutters* :(


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