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ehochstein 03-05-2013 19:24

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
2 of the best FCS (in my opinion) will be here, if a team doesn't have FCS blocker I will be surprised.

Elimination prediction: (I may be biased)

Alliances
2512 - 2705 - 1816 (Semi-Finalists)
2052 - 2220 - 3313 (MN Champions)
2169 - 2177 - 3276 (Finalists)
2175 - 2502 - 2538 (Semi-Finalists)

I do not see a FCS winning as long as the winning alliance has a good defensive bot and 2 good cyclers.

Disclaimer: These are complete guesses, I have not used any data whatsoever to make my choices.

mildew999 04-05-2013 11:53

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peirvine (Post 1270976)
2175's school also has Prom on that date. It is tricky, but most of us are choosing to do both :eek:. It will be interesting, but we plan to have at least 25 people there (mainly because most of our team is 9th/10th graders).

wear your robotics uniforms to prom :)

FRC3883FRC 04-05-2013 21:53

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
Really wish our team would have made it again to try and defend the title. Last year was my Sr. year on the team and it was an amazing way to end my 2 years (team started my Jr. year) as a student member of the team, but could not stay away from the team and came back to help out when I was not in college classes. Hope to get there and be able to watch more then a couple matches and not be stuck in the pits or behind the glass. 2175 if you guys end up winning its because of the velcro our team lent you at North Star, it was only because of your teams batteries last year that we were able to take home the victory!

cadandcookies 05-05-2013 17:35

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiifi (Post 1272097)
2 of the best FCS (in my opinion) will be here, if a team doesn't have FCS blocker I will be surprised.

Elimination prediction: (I may be biased)

Alliances
2512 - 2705 - 1816 (Semi-Finalists)
2052 - 2220 - 3313 (MN Champions)
2169 - 2177 - 3276 (Finalists)
2175 - 2502 - 2538 (Semi-Finalists)

I do not see a FCS winning as long as the winning alliance has a good defensive bot and 2 good cyclers.

Disclaimer: These are complete guesses, I have not used any data whatsoever to make my choices.

I am exceedingly amused by those predictions; though it would be nice to team up with KnightKrawler again and our friends in Alexandria!

Also, I'm exceedingly afraid of KING TeC if their FCS is performing like it was in their last match on Galileo.

Boe 05-05-2013 18:41

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
the biggest problem i see with the predictions is that i find it hard to believe none of the captains to pic each other

pntbll1313 05-05-2013 21:23

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boe (Post 1272545)
the biggest problem i see with the predictions is that i find it hard to believe none of the captains to pic each other

I agree, assuming those first 4 teams are captains I think one may pick another... In any case I'm thrilled to see we were picked as the winner :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiifi (Post 1272097)
2 of the best FCS (in my opinion) will be here, if a team doesn't have FCS blocker I will be surprised.

This is definitely true. With supposedly 8 matches being played in 4 hours there will be almost no time in between matches. I expect any team that does not think they are in the elite scoring category to use their 8 hours to develop a 60", or 84" blocker and just leave it on their bot. With so little prep time in between matches any alliance that finds itself against one of those 2 FCS in quals without a blocker will find it VERY tough to beat them. It would also make them look much more attractive come alliance sections.

Jon Stratis 05-05-2013 22:11

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pntbll1313 (Post 1272590)
With supposedly 8 matches being played in 4 hours there will be almost no time in between matches.

Since you brought this up... 30 teams means every team will be playing every 5th match, on average. This means that between getting off the field and going back on, on average there will be only 4 matches. Going on the regionals and champs, we can expect match time to be 7 minutes or less - in other words, there will, on average, be just under half an hour between matches. Some times it may be quicker, other times longer.

Regardless, how many teams coming to Champs are still swapping between two completely separate set of red/blue bumpers, and how long does it take for you to swap? Last year this was an issue for a few teams. I hope teams are looking at it, and planning accordingly!

ice.berg 08-05-2013 10:04

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
For the MN teams that went to CMP. Have any of you received your robots back yet? or know arrival time?

peirvine 08-05-2013 10:09

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ice.berg (Post 1273295)
For the MN teams that went to CMP. Have any of you received your robots back yet? or know arrival time?

For 2175's robot, it is expected to be in our shop tomorrow (5/9/13), so maybe tomorrow or Friday for Duluth? We got a FedEX tracking number, so one of our mentors knows the exact details.

Jon Stratis 08-05-2013 10:09

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
While I didn't talk directly to the shipping guys myself, I heard from another team that they were given an estimate of 4-6 weeks for shipping the robot back. I know several teams opted to ship an empty crate back and take the robot home with them on their bus (at least, that was their plan), in order to make sure they would have it in time to use the 8 hours of unbag time and be ready for States.

Jon Stratis 08-05-2013 11:16

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
I just got word that at least 2 MN teams have received their robot crates back already. The crates are released 1-2 truck-loads per day, so there's could be little correlation between teams in an area... it could be dependent on which division you were in, or on a random order they were loaded into the warehouse from champs. One would hope they would be organized so all the robots from an area (like MN) would ship out at once, but I wouldn't necessarily count on it.

jessss 08-05-2013 11:18

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peirvine (Post 1273297)
For 2175's robot, it is expected to be in our shop tomorrow (5/9/13), so maybe tomorrow or Friday for Duluth? We got a FedEX tracking number, so one of our mentors knows the exact details.

We got ours last week.

bachster 08-05-2013 11:54

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
For future reference, if you would like to bring your robot home from Champs rather than shipping it, you can request a shipping exemption from FIRST (instructions were included with one of the weekly email blasts). We did this with the explanation that we wanted to be sure it would be back in time for the MN State Championship (and have adequate time to use our 8 hrs) and FIRST immediately approved it.

I hope all robots make it home safely and quickly!

Bryan Herbst 08-05-2013 17:18

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1272606)
Since you brought this up... 30 teams means every team will be playing every 5th match, on average. This means that between getting off the field and going back on, on average there will be only 4 matches. Going on the regionals and champs, we can expect match time to be 7 minutes or less - in other words, there will, on average, be just under half an hour between matches. Some times it may be quicker, other times longer.

Challenge accepted.

Minnesota had a very good record this year when it comes to match cycle times. I believe that our regionals were all consistently around 7-8 minute cycle times, and we frequently found ourselves ahead of schedule.

pntbll1313 13-05-2013 09:57

Re: 2013 MN State Championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ice.berg (Post 1272082)
Ok, so here's the deal, our team (2512) is trying to put together a scouting sheet for everyone to use much like the ones that were put together for the divisions at worlds. We have created a google docs spreadsheet for anyone to edit and contribute to. All we are asking is that you post reliable data and not just your best guess. It doesn't have to be for just your team either, so if you know any data for other teams you have competed with add that in as well! So, the goal is to fill up this entire sheet with the proper data before the 17th.

HERE IS THE LINK

Thanks for all your help and see you guys at state!

Thanks for starting this. Our scouting team is going to meet tonight and I know they'll take a look at this sheet. There are still some blanks but it looks like over half the teams are filled in which is awesome!


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