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Paper Scouting Sheets
I am developing a workshop to teach less rookies and other new teams easy ways to scout. I want to show them several examples of scouting sheets from over the years as part of an example of how to design the sheets based off of the game.
I was wondering if anyone could either send me some old sheets, or point me in the right direction. Thank you. Quinn Schiller FRC 1983 Skunkworks Lead Scouting Analyst P.S. If you send in old sheets, please include the year and game name. |
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Figuring out what to do with your stack of completed paper scouting sheets is a challenge. I suggest addressing that if you are going to provide examples of scouting sheets.
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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2828
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2700 http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2589 http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2572 http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2370 We use 1 sheet per team, and I LOVE our new sheets. Because all 12 matches (usually 7-10 when making a pick list) are on the same sheet, we use the sheets to help sort teams. The new sheet makes this so much easier than the old sheets (thank you 3929). You should be able to see a nice evolution of our single sheet system. As far as what do I do with old sheets? I tend to save them. We use them time from time when doing stats relative to games, or week 1 vs. week X or OPR vs. "real" scoring or why does team X seem to win every match or.... Just be very careful not to loose a sheet. |
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PM me your e-mail address and I'll shoot you an example of sheets that we used in 2012.
As for organizing them, someone suggested to me a while back on here to try out the accordian organizer and we never looked back. We labeled each slot to hold a range of team numbers and it worked out well, a lot better than a 3 ring binder. |
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We use laminated sheets and wet-erase markers. The sheets are scanned and read by a computer, and the data put into a database.
this thread details the system, and also has an example scouting sheet. |
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We used Spam's 180 scouting sheet this year.
We have used it for many years now with great success. Thank you Team 180 ! |
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Here's ours. We use a matrix format similar to 33's that integrates pit and pre-event scouting. We split the "tracking" portion--where do you get discs, how do you cross the field, where do you shoot--onto separate shipping labels that other scouts fill out and slap on the back of the matrix sheet. Usually we don't want to track every team we scout, so this gives us some flexibility while allowing the matrix sheet to be simple enough to do a few simultaneously at most events.
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Here is ours. Each team has one sheet that tracks said team through all their matches. Because we do districts we usually have 30-40 sheets at any event. We keep these sheets in a pocket portfolio in order by team number. Between each match we collect and distribute the sheets.
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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=116017
While it's not paper scouting, that thread details our IPA Scouting System (HTML5 Webapp) that was open to all teams at Queen City, Crossroads, and Curie Division @ CMP this year. We're looking to open it to all of the FRC community, at all regionals, next year, so if you'd be interested in electronic scouting, perhaps take a look! |
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Here is our paper scouting sheet from Ultimate Ascent. We only used it as a backup for when our electronic system crashed for whatever reason for a match or two (tripping on ethernets mostly), so it isn't all that detailed. It was designed for three teams on a page to save paper.
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6 people scouting, one lead handing out the sheets and one person entering data. These position overlap on occasion but we try to have 8-10 people in the stands doing it at a time. |
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Are the Q1-Q12 parts on the side of the sheet time slots?
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And these are the folders though we can find them cheaper at Walmart. It's sort of annoying to need a new set for each regional but I guess we could keep them all and just have one per team forever. Then we could reuse from year to year. I learned this method from doing Inspections at different event. When you remove a sheet from it's folder turn the folder sideways so you know which ones are currently out of the box. If you label both the top and side of each folder it's very fast to get them in and out between matches. |
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340 has found that these sheets are extremely helpful. These are printed on 11x17 inch paper, and you just use tallies to mark what a team has done in their match. They're great at showing trends (whether a team has improved, or gotten worse), and they are easy to read and understand- and they'll never give you the blue screen of death! Maybe Justin can show you what a filled out one looks like (he's got 340's framed in his room from last year :P ).
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We use one sheet per team with a row for each match and a column for each part of the match (ie auto, shooting, climb, etc) this makes it easy to look down the list and see how consistant their robot is, however i've heard larger teams often use individual sheets for each team each match because it means more people can scout resulting in more accurate data.
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Thank you everyone for sending me these sheets. I will be sure to use them and credit them to their appropriate creators.
Are there any other "Best Practices" I should be sure to include in this workshop? |
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I would recommend, if you are going to show them paper scout sheets, to make sure they are aware that they need to keep them organized using something like a binder, which I use, or an accordian folder, which team 20 used. We have had great luck the last two years at CT partly due to strategy, and our scouting systems have really helped. Also, I'm not sure exactly what you are planning to cover or how in depth, but you might want to touch on backscouting and pit scouting too. I know I do a lot of work, along with the rest of my team, but it has been paying off for us... Oh, and I can't see the sheets that other teams are using, but for the most accurate data, especially pit scouting, warn them to stay away from opinion questions. Then the data quality can vary from person to person. And have them make sure that they are very organized, like schedules and time slots for scouting, because I know I have run in to problems having not enough scouts, and my team has 40+ members. Having the same people doing it the whole time can be exhausting... I know that was a lot, but that's my main job on my team so...
Just my take! Special note - with binders, if you get plastic separators you can use stick on tabs and then just reuse them each competition. Easy way for them to save money if they want to. |
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2056 released their scouting sheet during a webinar earlier this year. It can be found here.
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I saw someone walking around with one of these... and was so jealous. |
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