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We're still working to determine if a webcast will be possible this year. Due to the venue change, there's a number of logistics for us to work through to make it happen. We're trying, but it may not come together -- if it does not, we do apologize for all those out there who want to watch live. If we are able to produce one, it will be at the link you asked about.

We will have match video posted to youtube after the event concludes either way.

Looking forward to seeing all the teams at the event! Best of luck in the competition, and hope you all enjoy it!

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One week to go!
RUReady2RahChaCha?
:cool:

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We are always ready to Ra Cha Cha Ed!! :cool:

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We're... kinda ready?

We've been making upgrades to our robot over the past month that allow us to stack frisbees in our shooter and load from the middle slot. Both these modifications together should let us cycle more quickly and reliably. We're still working out the kinks of these changes, but our on-season driver was able to load frisbees twice as quickly and shoot a little faster than before. Ideally this will make us good for 4+ cycles a match. We'll see.

Either way, we're definitely super excited for Ruckus. The competition field is crazy deep this year. The prospect of a pair of Canadian teams as the #1 alliance is quite scary!

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I think the top two alliances cold be Canadian.

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You betcha, Canada can be cold. :)

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This competetion is going to be crazy and so much fun! Are any teams interested in trading shirts? Team 20 could gladly bring some to Ruckus if anyone wants to make the swap.

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Looking like 8 Canadians, out of 37 teams attending.

Basing the ranks on Max OPR (including Championship), it stacks up like this:
(note: I assumed 4930 will perform equal to 1507. This may not be a fair assumption)
6 of the top 10 are Canadian. Ought to be interesting to see how the alliance selections play out.

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1310, 1334, 4039 610 and 1241 are obvious threats to win it all. Watch out for 20 who had a very disappointing IRI and will be looking to put on a show.
3173 is the only FCS at Ruckus and is dangerous. 191, 340 and 1511 are savvy veterans who know how to handle themselves.'
Don't sleep on the FLR champs 1559. 1405 and 3003.
If I went by these rankings I'd make 3015 my sleeper.
They are fast and deadly accurate.I want to get a look at 4001 and 3044 and see what they are about.

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4001 is a pretty decent cycler. They (along with eveyone else) have had a lot of time to improve, so I expect some good things from them.

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Myself and the rest of Team 340 are really looking forward to this Saturday. I love how much this event has grown into a truly competitive environment that is attracting some great teams.

See you in a few days!

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This event is filled to the brim with cyclers.

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Not many with a 50+ OPR

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4930 performing like 1507 is not a fair assumption. The robot we (4930) will be using is not, strictly speaking, 1507's second robot. 1507 never had a second robot. They did have, however, a spare shooter assembly and drive base, which they generously donated to us. That being said, we've been working with a skeleton crew of students because of school sports, so we haven't had time to really test or iterate at all. Either way, we're definitely looking forward to the Ruckus.

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How many floor sweepers we got?

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Fair enough. :cool:

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Actually I was actually asking if there are any signed up for Ruckus.
Far as I can tell there are none.

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None?

Ya sure about that?

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I was so looking forward to winning this event with 1334 and 340. What could have been. :cool:

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1310, 1241, 20 and 1507 are the teams that pop out to me with a floor pick-up. Of them, 1310 is probably the most deadly.

1126 also has a floor pick-up, which was largely non-functional at FLR/Buckeye. Given the time they've had to iterate, we'll see what they bring to the table in 3 days.

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Let's make it a date for next year!

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Sounds good to me!

Let's see...

54 Auto
60+ Teleop
70 Climb
30 Dump
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214+ points

Every time. No sweat. :p

1 cycler + 2 climber/dumper alliances are best!

Honestly, I'd love to see that at Ruckus just to see how it would play out against the boring and mundane cycler and FCS alliances we always see zzzzzzzzzz.

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Too bad we didn't get a chance to play together at IRI. Climber and dumping certainly is more exciting - particularly when we fall off after dumping or when someone is dragging their battery by its cable and can still climb.

This weekend in Rochester should be great.

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You wouldn't have wanted to play with us at IRI. We were busy plowing other robots around the field. Well actually, you'd have fit right in with that great schedule we got, so with another great partner, maybe you would have liked it while we played D.

The offensive side of the bot kinda "found itself" after that event.

For all I know 340 built a whole other robot since Finger Lakes, but if they still do the climb and dump thing too, it would have been great to see in action.

We had a similar cycler + 2 climber alliance at CORI, and it was kinda cool to watch. Different. Just nowhere near as offensively capable as the Ruckus alliance I mentioned.

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Cycling is highly dependent on driver ability. I would be very interested to see how effective the cyclers are if they are lacking their usual drive team due to graduation/other commitments/whatever. An FCS is a limited position but requires very low driver skill once it makes it to the feeder station. I would say look out for 3173 due to the simplicity of the strategy and design. That being said though, I'm sure that the teams that excelled this year (1310, 20, 610, 1241, 191, really a ton of this competition) will still find ways to succeed and probably have had meetings for their new drivers to practice already.

I can't wait to watch!

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1585 has joined the party late!

20
174
191
250
291
340
378
578
610
639
1126
1241
1310
1334
1405
1450
1493
1507
1511
1518
1559
1585
2228
2340
2791
3003
3015
3044
3173
3181
3710
3951
4001
4039
4203
4343
4930

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20 (38-15) OPR66-13WORLD RANK14 WPI Regional Finalist, Connecticut Regional Winner
174(8-10-1)OPR10.68WORLD RANK 1362
191(23-12)OPR45.98WORLD RANK110
250(17-10)OPR33.75WORLD RANK287
291 (17-15)OPR21.84 WORLD RANK695
340(14-10)OPR32.96WORLD RANK303
378(16-13)OPR27.22WORLD RANK479
578(7-13)OPR12.46WORLD RANK1220
610(46-11)OPR52.26WORLD RANK59 BAE Granite Regional Winner,Waterloo Regional Finalist, Galileo Division Winner, World Champion
639 (21-13) OPR21.13WORLD RANK728 Buckeye Regional Winner
1126(13-19)OPR16.09WORLD RANK983 FLR Finalist
1241(54-27-2)OPR48.11WORLD RANK90 GTR East Finalist, Galileo Division Winner, World Champion
1310(42-20)OPR66.13WORLD RANK17 Waterloo Regional Finalist, GTR West Finalist
1334(55-23)OPR53.53WORLD RANK53 GTR West Finalist, Western Candian Regional Winner
1405(15-10)OPR33.97WORLD RANK 282 FLR Winner
1450 (11-11)OPR30.04WORLD RANK390
1493(7-8)OPR6.74WORLD RANK1671
1507(21-7)OPR40.02WORLD RANK181 Buckeye Regional Finalist
1511(18-22)OPR22.89WORLD RANK648 Boston Regional Winner
1518(1-8)OPR7.06WORLD RANK1653
1559(19-16-1)OPR31.78WORLD RANK336 FLR Winner
1585 (6-5) OPR9.13 WORLD RANK1488
2228(14-9)OPR25.75WORLD RANK526
2340(6-13)OPR18.3WORLD RANK1714
2791(22-9)OPR31.78WORLD RANK336 WPI Regional Finalist
3003(24-14)OPR29.52WORLD RANK406 FLR Winner
3015(24-5)OPR37.96WORLD RANK207 Virginia Regional Finalist
3044(14-14)OPR32.04WORLD RANK328 WPI Regional Champion.
3157 (3-6) OPR4.46 WORLD RANK1837
3173(24-8)OPR49.83WORLD RANK78 Boston Regional Finalist
3181(5-4)OPR22.19WORLD RANK676
3710(8-6)OPR17.27WORLD RANK916
3951(2-7)OPR5.26WORLD RANK1767
4001(21-11-1)OPR36.87WORLD RANK222
4039(28-23-2)OPR58.49WORLD RANK32
4203(6-5)OPR0.93WORLD RANK2101
4343 (20-11)OPR38.07WORLD RANK205 GTR East Finalist
4930 (2014 pre rookie). They will be using 1507's second robot.

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Here here!!

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Hi, I'm a senior in High School and Co-Captain on Team 20, and for my Principles of Engineering course, I need to interview someone who works in an engineering/technical profession. I haven't had much luck finding an interviewee up to this point (I can not have known them prior to the interview), so I though, what better place to find such a person than a FIRST competition! Will there be anyone at Ruckus this weekend with enough interest, and most importantly, the spare time between pitwork to sit down for about 20 minutes and answer some questions for me? Thanks!

By the way, sorry to interrupt this thread, but it seems like the best place for it.

Edit: I've gotten a few responses already. I should be good to go. Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate it! See you all tomorrow, good luck!

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Does anyone know if there will be a live webcast this year?

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The Armory's wi-fi is pretty weak so as of right now I'd say it's pretty unlikely.

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Well if there's one good place to look for someone like that, it's a FIRST competition.

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For anyone who wants it here's all this vvv data in an excel sheet here it is.

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Any updates on the progress of the event?

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From my vantage point I can't see the rankings.

610, 4039, 1334, 3173, and 191 are all strong.

Many teams were missing low early on, possibly the field was set up with the pyramids slightly too close too the walls.

Many teams are much weaker than I expected them to be.

1241 is missing their floor pickup.

4001 has an almost entirely new robot

340, 1559, and 1334 have pulled off 30 point climbs

1334 had the only successful 50 point climb so far.

Many teams are working new drive teams.

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Thank you for the update. How are 4343 and 1310 doing?

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4343 was having shooter issues with shooting low. Have now been corrected. We're also trying different drive teams each match. All of our 2013 on-season drive team graduated.

1310 is also having some issues with shooting low, though they're getting better.

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3015 and 1507 are also decently strong.

3044's human player is pretty impressive.

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Winning match scores are fairly low. 60-70ish.

There are many teams out there who could singlehandedly win matches here.

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Alliance Selections:

1: 191 610 1511 F
2: 4039 1334 3951 W
3: 20 3173 578 SF
4: 1559 1241 3003 QF
5: 3015 340 4001 SF
6: 3044 1507 174 QF
7: 250 1310 1126 QF
8: 4930 4343 2791 378 QF

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That #1 seed is STRONG!

They were lucky to grab 1511 as their last pick. We chose them at another off-season competition (Where's Wolcott). We were the 7th seed captain and we chose them as our last pick. They sometimes are forgotten about but I can truly say the 50 point climb they put up almost every match was essential to us becoming finalists (against the 1st seed).

I would bet money the 1st seed will win (unless something goes wrong)

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1511 has yet to climb above 10 pts today.

4039/1334 will give them a solid run for their money.

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Match results:

QF 1-1, 1v8, red wins, 130-51. No penalties. 10 climb points to each alliance.

QF 2-1, 4v5, blue wins, 117-59. No penalties. 40 climb points to blue. 0 to red. 3 discs in the blue pyramid goal.

QF 3-1, 2v7, red wins, 153-68, 40 red/20 blue climb points, blue penalty for entering field too early after match. 6 penalty points total awarded to red.

QF 4-1, 3v6, red wins, 109-79, 10 climb points each, no penalties.

QF 1-2, 1v8, red wins, 192-72, 40 red/10 blue climb points, 3 penalty points awarded to red. 1511 climb +dumped for the first time today.

<timeout alliance 4>

QF 2-2, 4v5, red wins, 128-109, 50 red/30 blue climb points, no penalties. (Strictly speaking, I'd argue 1559 shouldn't have been allowed to play. They missed the buzzer at the end of their timeout.)

QF 3-2, 2v7, blue wins, 86-73, 10 red/20 blue climb points, no penalties. 1126 tipped 1334 playing clean defense early in the match.

QF 4-2, 3v6, blue wins, 95-79, 10 red/20 blue climb points, no penalties.

QF 2-3, blue wins, 116-115, 30 red/50 blue climb points, 3 penalty points awarded to red.

QF3-3, 2v7, red wins, 98-22, 10 climb points each, no penalties. 1310's floor pickup jammed their shooter in auto

<timeout alliance 3>

QF 4-3, 3v6, red wins, 84-54, 10 climb points each, no penalties. 20 lost communications for most of the match

SF 1-1, 1v5, blue wins, 134-107, 30 red/50 blue climb points, no penalties. 610 didn't fire in auto, 191 sat no comms for most of the match. Same driver station as 20 in QF 4-3.

SF 2-1, 2v3, red wins, 135-100, 20 red/10 blue climb points, 6 penalty points awarded to blue. 3951 didn't seem to have any problems with the suspect drivers station.

SF 1-2, 1v5, red wins, 131-105, 20 red/40 blue climb points, no penalties. 1511 fell in mid-climb when 191 tried to hang on their pyramid.

<timeout alliance 2>

SF 2-2, 2v3, red wins, 198-84, 40 red/10 blue climb points, 20 penalty points awarded to red.

SF 1-3, 1v5, red wins, 148-124, 40 red/50 blue climb points, no penalties. 191 dead at start of auto till about 90s remaining in match

F 1, 1v2, blue wins, 128-61, 10 red/20 blue climb points, 3 penalty points awarded to red. 1334 had climber problems, 610's right side drive unit failed after a tussle with 3951. 1511 couldn't get lined up for their climb.

<timeout alliance 1>

F 2, 1v2, blue wins, 141-73, 10 red/40 blue climb points, no penalties. (like 1559 earlier, 610 didn't make it back from their timeout in time, but was allowed to play.)

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QF4-2, 3173 had no comm the whole match.
Also, Alliance 3 never used our timeout. We almost had to, but we didn't.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot to add my congratulations!

Congrats to the victors, 4039, 1334, and 3951.
4039- You guys were consistent all day, and you put up some mad points.
1334- You guys are incredible. 'Nuff said.
And 3951- I had no idea who you were, but you completely shut down 3173 in our semis, and that's not easy to do. Congrats on your win, you deserved it.

And to the finalists-
191- You guys were a surprise to seed 1st- but you were consistent all day, and the only robot to go 6-0 in quals. Nice job.
610- You guys are phenomenal. I already knew that, but strategizing with you in our qual match together was awesome. I thought for sure you guys had this comp in the bag.
1511- We were reeeeeally close to picking you over 578, and if you were a little shorter, we likely would have. But we didn't want our fullback blocking our FCS, sooooo.... I think it turned out pretty well for you guys, though!

Fantastic job to everyone, and what a fun competition that was.
And I apologize to all for being THAT alliance captain that picks a team that was already picked. I felt rather bad after that. :D

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Our thanks and congratulations to the organizing committee for running such a fantastic Ruckus. Well done. The new venue is great. We hope it the event will be in the same place next year.

Our thanks as well to 4039 for picking us for the #2 alliance and to 3951 for joining us.

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Anyone got any videos?

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Yes. I got some behind-the-glass videos during quals, and videos of Team 20's elim matches. I am uploading them to youtube as we speak.
Here's a link to my channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRk...2Vj1oPDxorHqLg

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MakeShift would like to thank the organizers and volunteers of Ruckus '13 for a putting on a great event. From the warm welcome to the spooky atmosphere, the whole thing was well-organized and fun. For any teams considering traveling to Ruckus next year, we highly recommend it!

It was an honour to play in the finals against the X-Cats (191), the Coyotes (610) , and Rolling Thunder (1511).

Thanks to the Red Devils (1334) and the Suits (3951) for being amazing alliance partners.

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Congrats to 4039, 1334 and 3951. Well deserved victory!

I am uploading some of 610's matches this afternoon. Here is one of our better matches... :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ8JqISih_A

Cheers!

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Congrats to the winners and to the finalists, I knew our alliance would need some help if we had any chance of beating you. You guys rock!
Thanks to all of the volunteers and the planning group. The armory worked out really well.
I would like to congratulate Dante for volunteer of the year. I may give you a hard time sometimes but it is all in fun. Rochester is really lucky to have you around for all of us. The RCR stuff you do behind the scenes, time you put in volunteering, and you really are one of the best referees in FIRST. Thank you for all you do.
My last thanks and congrats goes out to the volunteers from 1511 and 340 that helped run the event and the Mega-drive. You made this much more than just an awesome robotics event. Thanks.


Kim, I think the vision you had for the Ruckus almost 10 years ago has finally been fully recognized. Thank you. NEFIRST is lucky to have you.

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Will there be match videos posted since there was no webcast?

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Ehh the vision was realized the day we pulled together the first one - many of the teams in Rochester working together and coming together for a fun event where we could all learn and grow... we had it long ago :) The extravaganza that it has become is just way above and beyond what I ever would have dreamed!!!

Rochester was such an amazing place to start my career, and to really get my feet on the ground as a mentor in FIRST. All of the teams are so helpful and friendly, as much as I love New England, I will always miss the family that the Rochester FIRST community provided. They are the epitome of GP like no other area I've seen. That they are now able to draw in and host teams from so many different places is just a testament to the amount of hard work and effort that the students and mentors in the region put in year round.

I'm looking forward to my time back in New England and all the craziness it will bring, but I will always try and return to Rochester!! I'm really sad to miss my first Rally in 10 years this year, but I'll hopefully be watching the webcast from where-ever I am that day and if all goes well, will see everyone at FLR!!

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I took video of the majority of Team 20's Matches
(matches 8,14,21,32,36,and QF 4-1, QF 4-2, QF 4-3, SF 2-1, SF 2-1)
Here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...IxGkBDNdusJeyk

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Since Ruckus started nearly 10 years ago, the growth of the event has been awesome to see. This year was one of the best yet. A huge thanks to the planning committee and every volunteer at the event that made it feel like a regional.

To the Canadian contingent and especially our defending world champs 610 and 1241, I'm so glad you made the trip down and I hope you felt it was worth your time. The quality of teams in Canada is incredible and your presence at the event made everyone else strive to elevate their play.

To all other non-local teams that made the trip, I hope you enjoyed the event and will consider returning next year. Spread the word, bring your friends, Ruckus is a blast and the more the merrier.

Congratulations to the 2013 Ruckus Champs and Finalists, you both played great and it's a testament to good design and team organization that you can keep these machines running at such a high level 9 months after they were built and all of the matches in between.

Rochester FIRST is an incredible community and any event in the area that gets everyone together is awesome. I love chatting with everyone, most of whom I haven't seen since Buckeye or Champs to discuss how they felt their season went and what they are doing to prep for 2014.

A special thanks to our alliance partners 3015 and 4001. 4001, we really enjoyed playing with you guys. Your team was very friendly and your robot was awesome. 3015, we are finding ourselves on the same side of the glass in elims more often than not recently and it's always fun. You guys bring a ton of energy as well as great machines. We've won and event and were finalists in another with you guys recently and though we didn't quite replicate that success this time, we definitely had fun.

Thanks again to everyone involved, myself and the rest of Team 340 had a great time and I wish you all the best of luck in 2014!

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A huge congratulations to 4039, 1334 and 3951 for their win at Rah Cha Cha!

That alliance put up a score of 198 in one of their matches, and I don't think too many of us could compete with that. Even for our alliance, everything would have had to go perfectly for all 3 robots to come close.

The final alliances matched up in a very interesting way. 4039 vs 610 on cycling + 10 pt climbing. 1334 vs 1511 on the 50pt dump. We felt we had the advantage with 191's cycles offsetting the cycles that 1334 made before climbing. 3951 played very solid defense, as did 1511 prior to their climb and dump.

Speaking from 610's perspective, we needed to match 4039's cycling output every match in order to win. We bet on 191's cycles putting us over the top, even if 1511 couldn't complete the full 50pt dump.

But we couldn't keep up with 4039 in the finals. They outscored us badly in both matches.

I think the win solidified 4039 as one of the best cyclers in the world. They were super quick, accurate and reliable all competition long. I was more surprised they didn't take the #1 seed than others were surprised that we didn't earn it.

I wanted to thank 191 and 1511 for being amazing alliance partners. Sorry our robot didn't quite hold it together for the finals rounds, but we did the best we could, and it was quite the run nonetheless! We learned a lot, and our new drive team made huge strides in practising their new roles.

Overall, the event was excellent! Great venue, setup, volunteers, and competition. What more could you ask for? It should be no surprise why 8 Canadian teams made the trip to Rah Cha Cha even on our Thanksgiving weekend.

Thanks to all who made this event possible!

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I want to take a second and say thank you to everyone involved in the Rah Cha Cha Ruckus this year!

It was my first time MCing an event and although I was nervous, I had a lot of fun! It was great to see so many familiar faces and many new faces too. It felt great to be back and I had a blast.

Thanks again for having me and I hope everyone had a great time. :)

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We have Rah Cha Cha Ruckus match videos!

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Team 3044 had so much fun this year!
We were happy to get to eliminations. Thanks to 1507 and 174 who agreed to be our alliance partners!
And congrats to this years winners 4039, 1334, and 3951. You guys did amazing!
Thanks everyone for being very kind and spirited throughout the day!

P.s. good job to teams 20 and 250.