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audietron 23-05-2013 21:11

pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 

coalhot 23-05-2013 21:12

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Those evil evil things. Glad I don't have to work with them anymore. (shivers, did FTC for a few years) :(

ehochstein 23-05-2013 21:13

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Tetrix motors are the one thing I dislike about FTC.

Also we found we could fix some of the motors by replacing the resistor on the inside plate. I suggest using a higher watt rating resistor, just keep in mind the motor is not legal as this is considered a modification.

Gdeaver 23-05-2013 21:15

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
I hate mini-bots.

Justin Montois 23-05-2013 22:16

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
That's a lot of learning.

Chris is me 23-05-2013 22:41

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Ugh, this brings back painful memories. Honestly, a big reason minibots were copied verbatim that year was because it was way too costly to develop your own. I even remember having a design discussion where we determined "wait and copy" was the clearly most favorable option for our team's constraints. That year, we were on such a shoestring budget we simply could not afford to try development ourselves.

cgmv123 23-05-2013 22:59

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiifi (Post 1276930)
Also we found we could fix some of the motors by replacing the resistor on the inside plate. I suggest using a higher watt rating resistor, just keep in mind the motor is not legal as this is considered a modification.

That's not a resistor. That's an inductor.

ehochstein 24-05-2013 00:25

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1276955)
That's not a resistor. That's an inductor.

Huh. The guy who has been repairing them for us has always told me he replaced them with resistors. I'll have to look into that.

Nemo 24-05-2013 09:00

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Actually, these weren't all burned out in minibots. Our FTC teams have toasted their share as well.

These motors let out the nasty smelling smoke if you stall them for even a few seconds. I've complained to Pitsco that these motors need to be improved, but they are in denial that it is a problem. I was told that they work fine as long as you use them for what they're designed for. Of course I disagree. Hopefully we'll track down the funding to test out some Matrix motors and see if they're more durable.

Andrew Schuetze 24-05-2013 09:48

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemo (Post 1276992)
...Hopefully we'll track down the funding to test out some Matrix motors and see if they're more durable.

Be advised that Matrix motors are of a different voltage, have integrated encoders and a custom connector that includes power and the encoder signals. Nothing that is a deal breaker for your potential experiments. Just wanted you to be aware that they are not a 1 to 1 comparison.

Andrew Schreiber 24-05-2013 09:51

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemo (Post 1276992)
I was told that they work fine as long as you use them for what they're designed for. Of course I disagree.

As long as what they were designed for is to make a boat load of money by selling a cheap motor for $30 and letting it cook off if you stall it at all.

Richard Wallace 24-05-2013 10:15

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1276998)
As long as what they were designed for is to make a boat load of money by selling a cheap motor for $30 and letting it cook off if you stall it at all.

Straight talk is refreshing. I could not have stated this better.

Life lesson: you do not always get what you pay for -- sometimes you get less than that.

cgmv123 24-05-2013 10:29

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiifi (Post 1276969)
Huh. The guy who has been repairing them for us has always told me he replaced them with resistors. I'll have to look into that.

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Nemo 24-05-2013 10:36

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schuetze (Post 1276997)
Be advised that Matrix motors are of a different voltage, have integrated encoders and a custom connector that includes power and the encoder signals. Nothing that is a deal breaker for your potential experiments. Just wanted you to be aware that they are not a 1 to 1 comparison.

Yeah, I figured changing the motors would end up changing quite a few other components on the robot. But if they're better, it ends up being a pretty significant benefit. Thanks for the info.

tr6scott 24-05-2013 11:00

Re: pic: Our 2011 Mini-bot Tetrix motor grave
 
I counted 20 motors, $600, poof!

We have/had (not sure of the status) a similar pile...

For a team that has never used a 2 speed gearbox, vision processing, mercaium wheels, or canbus due to funding...

Yet we still have two 1.3ish second minibots that have not moved, since the Kettering Kickoff for Rebound Rumble.

Such a shame.


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