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Joe Ross 24-06-2013 16:54
Re: RPI regional
 
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Originally Posted by Kims Robot (Post 1280446)
From this document (just a google search), RIT's 2014 Spring Break is March 24-28, which actually makes it a week 4 or week 5 event. If I remember right, they traditionally go at the end of spring break so that they can do the traditional Thurs/Fri/Sat event... which could make it a week 5 event. Quite a change from their traditional Week 1/2 event!
RIT is switching from a quarter system to semester, so the later spring break is likely to stay.

Banderoonies 24-06-2013 17:28
Re: RPI regional
 
Please post when you know the date. The New England teams are moving to the district model next year but depending on dates some might be interested in still traveling to a Regional...who knows :)

KrazyCarl92 24-06-2013 17:58
Re: RPI regional
 
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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1280443)
  • The event is expected to host 35-40 teams. With about a dozen local teams, there is PLENTY of room for Western NY, MAR, and NE FIRST teams.
How about our friends to the north? They're certainly welcome as well!

JamesBrown 24-06-2013 19:40
Re: RPI regional
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1280443)
Some details from a recent e-mail blast:
[*]Show Ready says that RPI's ECAV as well as Robinson Gym (the Armory) are suitable venues for a 40 team max event. In addition, nearby Hudson Valley CC is also a suitable venue. Exact location should be decided soon.
Just curious, what email blast did this come from? I would hate to go to a regional at the Armory or ECAV. ECAV would be much more crowded than WPI and the Armory seating would be terrible, parkin will stink (and it leaks in bad weather). The HFH would have pit space but not much seating, it is half the size of the Verizon center and had 2500 less seats than the Agganis arena. The only place in the capital region I would think could host a good regional would be the TUC (Pepsi Arena? I don't know what it is called anymore)

KrazyCarl92 24-06-2013 21:35
Re: RPI regional
 
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Originally Posted by JamesBrown (Post 1280456)
Just curious, what email blast did this come from? I would hate to go to a regional at the Armory or ECAV. ECAV would be much more crowded than WPI and the Armory seating would be terrible, parkin will stink (and it leaks in bad weather). The HFH would have pit space but not much seating, it is half the size of the Verizon center and had 2500 less seats than the Agganis arena. The only place in the capital region I would think could host a good regional would be the TUC (Pepsi Arena? I don't know what it is called anymore)
ECAV would definitely outclass WPI for seating from 2010-2012. Parking for ECAV is the same as HFH. The Verizon Center uses like 1/5th of its seats at best for GSR. TUC would be nice, but it is a tough venue to book. Also folks haven't mentioned the Glens Falls Civic Center, but that is a reasonable size venue for an FRC event and about an hour north of Albany.

Regardless, the venues as discussed in this thread are the ones that are seriously being considered as far as I know. Hopefully we will have more details to share in the near future.

Chris is me 25-06-2013 00:29
Re: RPI regional
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBrown (Post 1280456)
Just curious, what email blast did this come from? I would hate to go to a regional at the Armory or ECAV. ECAV would be much more crowded than WPI and the Armory seating would be terrible, parkin will stink (and it leaks in bad weather). The HFH would have pit space but not much seating, it is half the size of the Verizon center and had 2500 less seats than the Agganis arena. The only place in the capital region I would think could host a good regional would be the TUC (Pepsi Arena? I don't know what it is called anymore)
I got the info from a forwarded message from our RD.

ECAV is bigger and has more seating than the pre-2013 WPI Regional, with plenty of parking even if you have to walk around HFH.

I would guess the Armory works with supplemental bleachers and a slightly scattered pit area. I don't think it's ideal, but it would probably work for a smaller event.The Armory has some parking, particularly during break when the regional would probably be if hosted at RPI (around march 15th / week 3).

The Houston Field House is more than big enough for a regional this size, with plenty of seating as long as the field is parallel to the long side of the ice rink. However, it's hockey playoffs, so the field house probably isn't available.

Hudson Valley also has a reasonable arena, with a decent amount of parking and accessibility.

seg9585 25-06-2013 05:46
Re: RPI regional
 
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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1280474)

The Houston Field House is more than big enough for a regional this size, with plenty of seating as long as the field is parallel to the long side of the ice rink. However, it's hockey playoffs, so the field house probably isn't available.
Well if it's hockey playoffs, then the Houston Fieldhouse should definitely be available then!

Kidding, kidding -- haven't followed the team in awhile. Go Red! And Clarkson still sucks...

Kims Robot 25-06-2013 09:13
Re: RPI regional
 
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Originally Posted by seg9585 (Post 1280476)
And Clarkson still sucks...
Oh don't start that now.... At least Clarkson has a FIRST team!!!

And I'm pretty sure the saying goes RPI sucks and SLU... well we just won't talk about it...

[Though I will admit it unfortunately does look like RPI has done better than Clarkson in the last couple of years...]

Patrick Flynn 25-06-2013 17:36
Re: RPI regional
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBrown (Post 1280456)
Just curious, what email blast did this come from? I would hate to go to a regional at the Armory or ECAV. ECAV would be much more crowded than WPI and the Armory seating would be terrible, parkin will stink (and it leaks in bad weather). The HFH would have pit space but not much seating, it is half the size of the Verizon center and had 2500 less seats than the Agganis arena. The only place in the capital region I would think could host a good regional would be the TUC (Pepsi Arena? I don't know what it is called anymore)
I've spend a decent amount of time, along with Chris and Carl looking at where a regional would best fit on RPI's campus. ECAV sits 1,200 for basketball, that's 200 more than WPI use to be able too. With the pits being in a different gym there would be room to add some more seats. Still not the most ideal location. The HFH sits 5000+ not all these seats would have a good view but more than enough seats for a 40 team event. RIT sits 4000 for 45+ teams. The Armory would require bringing in almost all the seating, this is very similar to whats done at any regional that is held in a convention center.

Parking isn't great at any of these locations. What do you expect in a city? A short simple shuttle just like RPI does for hockey games could easily solve that problem.

Chris is me 25-06-2013 21:48
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Some things I heard from tonight's meeting (second-hand, I wasn't there in person):
  • Tech Valley Regional is sticking as the event name, barring the sudden introduction of a six-figure sponsor or something like that.
  • The regional is probably week 2 or 3. FLR is Week 5, and NYC is Week 6, so this is not a conflict for any New York team's local regional.
  • The regional will almost certainly take place at ECAV on RPI's campus. (It's worth noting that since Week 3 is over spring break, the parking lots around BARH and Stackwyck will be more open, allowing for plenty of parking)
  • Venue cost is donated by RPI (woo!)

ThunderousPrime 26-06-2013 14:59
Re: RPI regional
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1280546)
Some things I heard from tonight's meeting (second-hand, I wasn't there in person):
  • Tech Valley Regional is sticking as the event name, barring the sudden introduction of a six-figure sponsor or something like that.
  • The regional is probably week 2 or 3. FLR is Week 5, and NYC is Week 6, so this is not a conflict for any New York team's local regional.
  • The regional will almost certainly take place at ECAV on RPI's campus. (It's worth noting that since Week 3 is over spring break, the parking lots around BARH and Stackwyck will be more open, allowing for plenty of parking)
  • Venue cost is donated by RPI (woo!)
Tech Valley Regional is a great name in my opinion. I sounds like it will be cramped which is unfortunate. Its great that there will be another regional in NY.

On another note, off topic I know, does anyone know what regionals if any will be closing with the advent of the NE District System? I've heard rumors that the Pine Tree Regional would close but I have seen anything offical from FIRST or another official source that confirms any regionals to be closed as of next year.

KrazyCarl92 26-06-2013 15:55
Re: RPI regional
 
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Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime (Post 1280605)
Tech Valley Regional is a great name in my opinion. I sounds like it will be cramped which is unfortunate. Its great that there will be another regional in NY.

On another note, off topic I know, does anyone know what regionals if any will be closing with the advent of the NE District System? I've heard rumors that the Pine Tree Regional would close but I have seen anything offical from FIRST or another official source that confirms any regionals to be closed as of next year.
Do not expect an opportunity to compete in any New England events if you are not from New England.

Also, Patrick: I'm not sure why you would have concerns with parking at an ECAV Regional over Spring Break. The field house parking for hockey games will be almost 100% available and right there, along with student housing parking on the other side of ECAV that will be available to us due to Spring Break. That parking accommodates thousands of fans coming for hockey games and students who live there all winter. It is more than suitable for any FRC event hosted at these venues, the limiting factor is by far the venue size, not the parking in any way (at least for ECAV, the armory has a parking challenge associated with it).

Patrick Flynn 26-06-2013 16:40
Re: RPI regional
 
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Originally Posted by KrazyCarl92 (Post 1280608)
Also, Patrick: I'm not sure why you would have concerns with parking at an ECAV Regional over Spring Break. The field house parking for hockey games will be almost 100% available and right there, along with student housing parking on the other side of ECAV that will be available to us due to Spring Break. That parking accommodates thousands of fans coming for hockey games and students who live there all winter. It is more than suitable for any FRC event hosted at these venues, the limiting factor is by far the venue size, not the parking in any way (at least for ECAV, the armory has a parking challenge associated with it).
Hockey game parking is a mess. 50% of the fans park in north lot or on the street and are bused up to the HFH. There's also the off chance that there is a home hockey game that weekend, Friday-Sunday 7pm. Can you imagine telling 5000 hockey fans they can't park in those lots because they are being used by a robotics regional? Parking will be a concern. But not something that can't be easily solved.

JackS 26-06-2013 17:12
Re: RPI regional
 
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Originally Posted by Patrick Flynn (Post 1280609)
Hockey game parking is a mess. 50% of the fans park in north lot or on the street and are bused up to the HFH. There's also the off chance that there is a home hockey game that weekend, Friday-Sunday 7pm. Can you imagine telling 5000 hockey fans they can't park in those lots because they are being used by a robotics regional? Parking will be a concern. But not something that can't be easily solved.
We have been told by RPI there will be no home hockey game that weekend. I think ECAV's only real limitation is seating. Show Ready said the regional can hold 1,500 with extra bleachers.

PVCpirate 26-06-2013 19:04
Re: RPI regional
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderousPrime (Post 1280605)
On another note, off topic I know, does anyone know what regionals if any will be closing with the advent of the NE District System? I've heard rumors that the Pine Tree Regional would close but I have seen anything offical from FIRST or another official source that confirms any regionals to be closed as of next year.
All of them, there will not be any regionals in New England in 2014. There was an idea to allow Capital Region teams to join the New England District system, but that didn't get past HQ. Sorry :(


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