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Jonathan Cheng 01-07-2013 08:22

pic: 3 CIM PTO With Break
 

Andrew Remmers 01-07-2013 08:23

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Any reason as to why you have such a huge gap around the CIM motor's raised face?

cbale2000 01-07-2013 17:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Remmers (Post 1280974)
Any reason as to why you have such a huge gap around the CIM motor's raised face?

If its the spot I think you're talking about, I would bet its so the gear on the CIM (which appears to be a bit larger than most) can be taken off with the motor... but that's just a guess.

Jonathan Cheng 01-07-2013 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cbale2000 (Post 1281020)
If its the spot I think you're talking about, I would bet its so the gear on the CIM (which appears to be a bit larger than most) can be taken off with the motor... but that's just a guess.

Yup. That's right.

Aren Siekmeier 02-07-2013 00:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Cheng (Post 1281026)
Yup. That's right.

If you use the 12t pinion instead the 14t it fits in the profile of the .75" boss, so this is guaranteed. And a smaller pinion gets you the needed reduction in fewer and smaller stages. But 14t may be appropriate in this case, I wasn't around for your decision-making process.

thinker&planner 02-07-2013 15:50

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I was thinking about doing something like this, but I couldn't figure out how to do the gear spacing. Because I didn't know the spacing for different gear-sets, I couldn't choose the right ones. How did you avoid that issue?

craigboez 02-07-2013 16:16

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In FRC a lot of people use the following formula to calculate gear center to center dimensions:

C to C = ((N1 + N2) / (2 * DP)) + .003

N1 and N2 are the number of teeth in the two gears you're meshing, and DP is the diametrical pitch of the gears (which in your case is 20).

See this thread for more info:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=95413

splatter 05-07-2013 13:24

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we had something similar to that this season we had a 3 cim pto with a two speed and also a brake.

T^2 05-07-2013 15:28

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Screws aren't really meant to take shear force, nor are they intended to locate features. If you use a large center hole for the CIM, the hole will no longer be able to constrain the motor as intended. Depending on how large your clearance hole for the 10-32 mounting screws is, you could end up with as much as .005" of play in either the closer or farther directions. This is obviously optimal for neither gear efficiency nor backlash, and completely mitigates the effect of adding .003" between gear centers. You should really reconsider the benefits of a large boss hole, and whether or not they outweigh the negative consequences.

Jonathan Cheng 07-07-2013 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by splatter (Post 1281335)
we had something similar to that this season we had a 3 cim pto with a two speed and also a brake.

Yup. Saw that at the NYC regional and as the driver for my team, I wished I had one. So I made one lol.


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