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Chris Fultz 14-07-2013 18:04
2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
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Attached is the TENTATIVE 2013 IRI Match Schedule.

We don't expect this schedule to change, but it could based on:

1. A team does not show
2. We somehow missed a team that does show
3. The host teams determine their schedule is too tough*
4. Or we find an error

The final schedule will be distributed Friday morning.


* :D

Gregor 14-07-2013 18:21
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Data crunching lackeys, commence!

Akash Rastogi 14-07-2013 18:22
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Awesome

Jay O'Donnell 14-07-2013 18:25
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If anyone's going to break the world record for points, I think it'll be match 48's red alliance. 987, 67, and 1114 all together.

Jash_J 14-07-2013 18:27
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Love it. Even if it's just tentative. Thank you IRI committee!

Koko Ed 14-07-2013 18:29
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Match 10 (with 3467 and 3476) and match 17 (with 2468 and 2648) will be fun to que.

jwallace15 14-07-2013 18:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1282714)
Match 10 (with 3467 and 3476) and match 17 (with 2468 and 2648) will be fun to que.
I saw that and thought there was a mistake. I had to look at it a longggggg time before I noticed the 67 and 76.

Koko Ed 14-07-2013 18:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwallace15 (Post 1282715)
I saw that and thought there was a mistake. I had to look at it a longggggg time before I noticed the 67 and 76.
I saw 3467 win Battlecry earlier in the offseason. They were very very impressive!

donkehote 14-07-2013 18:47
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match 7 should be a shooting gallery, 3539, 469 and 1310 on one alliance

LEAVE NO DISK BEHIND!

Gregor 14-07-2013 18:48
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3539, 469, and 1310 in match 7.

3928, 1114, and 3476 in match 21.

3467, 3928, and 2056 in match 39.

2337, 1538, and 33 VS. 987, 2590, 359 in match 43.

987, 67, and 1114 in match 48.

3539, 48, and 148 in match 62.

1538, 1477, and 624 in match 64.

1114 VS. 2056 in match 66.

987, 3476, and 303 in match 80.

1538, 67, and 3928 in match 82.

111, 1310, and 148 in match 96.

1538, 1334, 2826 in match 102.

This will be fun.

Lil' Lavery 14-07-2013 18:49
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
This has been out almost two hours and someone hasn't broken it down with predicted outcomes via 18 different OPR methods yet?

Gregor 14-07-2013 18:52
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1282720)
This has been out almost two hours and someone hasn't broken it down with predicted outcomes via 18 different OPR methods yet?
It has been out for 40 minutes, give it time. :rolleyes:

Koko Ed 14-07-2013 18:53
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How many matches total for each team?

Gregor 14-07-2013 18:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1282722)
How many matches total for each team?
9 matches.

Brant Bowen 14-07-2013 18:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1282722)
How many matches total for each team?
Should be 9 matches per team. Three teams will have 10 matches. Its been a few days since I've looked at it.

Gregor 14-07-2013 19:01
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brant Bowen (Post 1282725)
Should be 9 matches per team. I think two teams will have 10 matches. I can't remember....its been a few days since I've looked at it.
51 and 2175 are surrogates in match 24.

1592 is a surrogate in match 25.

Brant Bowen 14-07-2013 19:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1282727)
51 and 2175 are surrogates in match 24.

1592 is a surrogate in match 25.
Was just taking another look at it to double check and you're right.

dodar 14-07-2013 19:08
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How do you pick which match is the surrogate?

Jon Jack 14-07-2013 19:09
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It's randomly assigned by the FMS

dodar 14-07-2013 19:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Jack (Post 1282730)
It's randomly assigned by the FMS
No, I mean how do you know its match 25 vs any other match that 1592 has?

Jon Jack 14-07-2013 19:11
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The column next to the team number has an F (False) or T (True). A "T" means the match is a surrogate for that team.

Littleboy 14-07-2013 19:12
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In the columns next to the team numbers, there are F's and T's. The 3 T's are the surrogate matches. The rest all have "F"s.

dodar 14-07-2013 19:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Jack (Post 1282732)
The column next to the team number has an F (False) or T (True). A "T" means the match is a surrogate for that team.
Oh ok, so that's what those are. Thanks.

Kristian Calhoun 14-07-2013 19:14
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1282729)
How do you pick which match is the surrogate?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Jack (Post 1282730)
It's randomly assigned by the FMS
If a team has a surrogate match, it's always their third qualification match.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Section 5.3.2
If a Team plays a MATCH as a SURROGATE, it is indicated on the MATCH schedule, and it is always their third Qualification MATCH.

KelliV 14-07-2013 19:14
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1282729)
How do you pick which match is the surrogate?
As detailed in section 5.3.2 in the manual surrogate match teams are randomly assigned but their third match will always be the surrogate one.

You can read it here.

dodar 14-07-2013 19:15
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How did that rule ever come up as a rule?

EricH 14-07-2013 19:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1282737)
How did that rule ever come up as a rule?
It used to be that the last match for any given team was the surrogate match, if they were in one. After some rumors of teams who were already in the top 8 basically not caring about that match--when their partners DID very much care--it was changed to the third match in an attempt to make it matter. So far, no complaints about teams not caring about that match.

GaryVoshol 14-07-2013 19:27
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1282738)
It used to be that the last match for any given team was the surrogate match, if they were in one. After some rumors of teams who were already in the top 8 basically not caring about that match--when their partners DID very much care--it was changed to the third match in an attempt to make it matter. So far, no complaints about teams not caring about that match.
It wasn't a rumor, it did happen. One team elected not to play in as a surrogate; one of their alliance partners would have been in the top 8 had they won the match. That's all I'll say on it.

Orion.DeYoe 14-07-2013 21:29
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Oh boy. My team is in Qual #1. I like that match. 1114 vs 1538 with us in between :D .

Peyton Yeung 14-07-2013 21:46
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
I'm away from my computer for 8 hours and something like this comes out. Just my luck.

evanperryg 14-07-2013 21:51
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
I have a spreadsheet containing a large number of stats and the like. I don't feel like doing all the predictions myself, so here is a link to the spreadsheet so you can see the match predictions/strategy info yourself. All OPR data is either from my team's champs data or from simbotics. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...00&postcount=5

Kevin Leonard 14-07-2013 22:07
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by evanperryg (Post 1282750)
I have a spreadsheet containing a large number of stats and the like. I don't feel like doing all the predictions myself, so here is a link to the spreadsheet so you can see the match predictions/strategy info yourself. All OPR data is either from my team's champs data or from simbotics. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...00&postcount=5
Your data from the 1114 spreadsheet is from before championships. Could you update the info with post-champs data (probably from Ed Law's spreadsheet).

Aidan H. 14-07-2013 22:41
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Has anyone found a match in the schedule that contains three 3rd level climbers (30 pt.) on the same alliance?

I would suspect that if any event will have three robots at the top of one pyramid, it will be this one.

BrendanB 14-07-2013 23:02
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aidan H. (Post 1282758)
Has anyone found a match in the schedule that contains three 3rd level climbers (30 pt.) on the same alliance?

I would suspect that if any event will have three robots at the top of one pyramid, it will be this one.
Sadly no. The closest is a few matches with two 30 point climbers. We have one with 1334 and another with 1640. We also have one against 1114.

Practice match?

sanddrag 14-07-2013 23:35
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I'm on my way to IRI and currently about 2 hours west of Albuquerque. After seeing this match schedule just now, I'm thinking I might as well just turn around and head back to LA.:D Can't though, I have the 3476 robot with me!

Peyton Yeung 14-07-2013 23:36
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Is it Friday yet? :)

Dragonking 14-07-2013 23:48
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Projected ranking based off team 27 post championship opr data. Does not include defense.


Code:
        Team    Qual    Auto    Climb  Tele
1        2056        18        624        223        1151
2        118        16        605        201        1060
3        987        16        551        270        1175
4        1538        14        693        271        1071
5        33        14        628        218        917
6        1310        14        572        273        1080
7        3539        14        545        253        1071
8        469        14        525        229        1121
9        20        14        515        283        1004
10        1114        14        464        351        1198
11        862        14        428        243        1054
12        3928        12        579        228        918
13        624        12        569        261        1075
14        1241        12        556        220        907
15        2590        12        548        262        943
16        868        12        528        291        1068
17        303        12        512        252        885
18        245        12        505        250        1021
19        4265        12        483        261        1016
20        447        12        478        269        949
21        359        12        454        270        1085
22        67        12        441        335        1079
23        195        12        412        230        1054
24        3476        10        631        257        1000
25        1477        10        581        216        1029
26        2474        10        545        207        979
27        125        10        484        263        888
28        51        10        461        223        831
29        829        10        453        243        862
30        3467        10        452        356        904
31        1676        10        442        248        1035
32        48        10        432        198        1027
33        71        10        407        364        747
34        1024        10        398        194        757
35        4334        10        384        236        1013
36        1732        8        534        220        900
37        2468        8        501        211        975
38        2826        8        492        178        950
39        27        8        488        171        950
40        2252        8        484        246        925
41        16        8        464        170        978
42        1334        8        447        339        954
43        1592        8        444        208        864
44        68        8        443        288        1067
45        3847        8        442        234        906
46        1625        8        436        211        882
47        3947        8        436        283        876
48        148        8        432        284        1043
49        111        6        534        271        770
50        116        6        509        226        863
51        4039        6        502        235        810
52        2338        6        477        153        749
53        2175        6        450        278        842
54        3641        6        400        303        830
55        2451        6        395        253        865
56        217        6        388        183        837
57        1902        6        380        257        905
58        1503        6        361        238        858
59        2648        4        483        222        926
60        234        4        475        264        933
61        967        4        431        227        849
62        461        4        418        232        695
63        11        4        415        266        889
64        1741        4        401        253        873
65        2337        2        503        188        790
66        1640        2        435        248        834
67        696        2        382        260        722
68        4814        0        447        254        534
69        45        0        376        126        771

Dragonking 14-07-2013 23:56
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No defense included.

No matches with score under 100 points.

Matches that could break world record

Match 48
987 1114 67 vs 16 4334 245
score: 295 to 178

Match 103
868 2056 987 vs 1741 2252 3476
score: 284 to 194

Code:
Match #        Red 1        Red 2        Red 3        Blue 1        Blue 2        Blue 3                Projected Alliance Score       
1        1538        2252        217        1114        461        447                205.23        198.85
2        125        51        967        2337        1902        11                171.47        148.65
3        1741        45        195        1625        2590        1676                139.10        193.52
4        71        1334        696        987        3928        1592                153.51        204.88
5        303        4039        4814        3847        868        111                130.07        192.03
6        2826        20        2056        359        67        3641                229.79        211.72
7        829        2338        1732        3539        469        1310                167.44        245.75
8        245        2474        1503        862        1640        2648                178.07        175.70
9        1477        16        33        234        148        3947                202.58        189.58
10        4334        68        3467        2175        116        3476                203.58        184.11
11        2468        2451        1241        27        624        1024                168.35        169.37
12        118        4265        1625        48        359        868                207.93        199.69
13        2826        461        2590        51        1732        245                153.39        175.17
14        16        862        1902        696        1477        2338                164.54        162.69
15        3847        1640        2252        33        1592        4334                155.59        177.74
16        217        1241        71        4039        2056        2337                146.89        204.82
17        2648        469        48        68        2468        4814                193.79        162.78
18        447        20        1310        987        4265        2451                233.95        216.09
19        2175        1538        11        148        2474        45                211.87        160.94
20        1334        195        3539        118        234        116                209.13        204.63
21        3928        1114        3476        1676        624        1503                241.41        203.44
22        829        125        3641        1024        111        3947                169.93        147.57
23        1741        67        27        303        3467        967                190.08        185.57
24        2175        447        71        51        33        4814                171.31        140.25
25        1592        461        1310        2337        45        16                151.77        118.56
26        469        624        2474        1902        118        987                236.46        244.01
27        116        2338        3928        148        3641        1114                154.63        234.51
28        4265        967        4334        195        2056        2468                191.56        241.68
29        303        1625        11        2252        829        862                154.33        184.48
30        27        111        1477        1640        1334        359                203.38        196.63
31        3467        48        1503        4039        20        1024                168.51        171.18
32        1732        3847        1538        2648        234        3476                208.13        202.53
33        67        68        696        2590        125        1241                188.33        196.98
34        3947        1741        2451        217        2826        3539                136.07        162.00
35        868        245        2468        1676        148        1902                218.22        194.08
36        4814        45        1503        829        1334        624                89.17        207.73
37        20        1625        71        4334        27        2648                176.36        173.26
38        195        2474        1114        68        1732        1477                234.31        208.74
39        3467        3928        2056        234        125        447                226.15        195.69
40        217        3641        868        16        469        51                171.16        191.42
41        245        3947        4039        4265        303        2338                172.32        173.81
42        11        116        1592        1024        67        1676                149.32        184.53
43        359        2590        987        2337        1538        33                261.63        223.58
44        48        862        1310        1741        3847        2175                196.52        146.38
45        3476        3539        2451        461        111        696                192.40        129.69
46        1241        118        1640        2252        967        2826                198.66        170.53
47        3947        1902        1625        1503        1592        1732                137.03        155.00
48        987        1114        67        16        4334        245                294.69        178.10
49        27        1676        33        217        4265        829                199.81        167.60
50        11        461        20        68        3928        868                163.98        202.81
51        447        862        2826        967        3476        45                187.31        163.35
52        2468        2337        2338        1334        3467        2474                172.04        203.85
53        2252        234        1310        4814        696        3641                206.74        104.28
54        1024        71        148        469        3847        195                159.43        204.96
55        4039        1477        1741        2648        125        118                186.71        212.03
56        303        359        624        2590        2175        3539                211.67        201.36
57        116        2056        51        48        1640        2451                195.81        134.73
58        1241        1538        16        111        20        4814                209.74        170.00
59        68        1503        1902        4265        234        3641                165.32        185.05
60        2468        118        1024        461        217        2338                197.03        118.06
61        33        4039        3476        195        1310        11                215.63        208.60
62        3539        48        148        27        125        2252                195.28        179.83
63        447        3947        469        2175        1640        2337                208.69        149.96
64        1538        1477        624        71        116        967                263.22        159.18
65        868        2590        829        2826        1592        2474                211.86        154.43
66        1114        45        2648        696        2056        303                180.57        185.45
67        1732        3928        1741        4334        1241        359                165.94        192.58
68        111        51        1676        987        3467        862                187.96        248.04
69        1334        3847        2451        1625        67        245                152.29        194.97
70        2175        125        16        1503        2468        71                166.65        174.35
71        1310        27        68        3947        1538        2056                209.00        248.79
72        2648        2826        2337        3928        1024        195                153.06        153.99
73        3467        4814        11        4265        3539        1114                148.21        245.23
74        33        447        116        1741        1902        111                192.23        164.74
75        148        3847        118        696        829        51                215.71        137.74
76        1676        4334        1334        461        3641        4039                200.27        136.01
77        1732        67        1640        862        868        624                195.88        229.30
78        234        2451        1592        967        2474        359                145.21        198.32
79        45        245        469        2252        1477        20                178.16        219.79
80        987        3476        303        217        1625        48                242.16        131.95
81        1241        2338        2056        2590        1503        3847                205.06        172.97
82        2468        3539        1640        1538        67        3928                195.76        241.45
83        4039        2175        1902        2826        1114        2451                156.00        192.10
84        2252        111        45        4265        71        1732                150.69        181.40
85        2337        3641        27        245        3476        118                154.46        241.24
86        696        868        2648        3947        33        3467                168.93        193.71
87        829        987        461        1241        1477        116                187.79        182.09
88        1024        51        4334        1310        303        2474                139.20        196.92
89        2590        624        48        11        16        447                206.47        177.70
90        862        359        217        125        195        4814                186.44        150.50
91        148        1592        1334        68        1741        20                192.04        201.80
92        967        234        1625        469        2338        1676                168.52        212.99
93        51        67        2175        829        4039        3928                184.09        169.16
94        3467        461        1640        2590        1902        71                149.09        172.87
95        696        1503        217        11        4334        1477                126.48        195.07
96        111        1310        148        2648        1592        624                231.97        182.74
97        1732        16        1676        2451        118        303                182.66        183.53
98        967        1024        4814        68        245        33                109.39        209.76
99        116        3947        359        2468        3847        45                172.72        138.40
100        2474        3641        1625        447        1241        3539                158.03        195.76
101        234        2337        862        1114        20        48                178.55        230.72
102        125        4265        469        1538        1334        2826                225.64        221.82
103        868        2056        987        1741        2252        3476                283.64        193.67
104        195        2175        1592        27        2338        51                164.34        154.90

efoote868 14-07-2013 23:59
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonking (Post 1282765)
No defense included.

Matches that could break world record

Match 48
987 1114 67 vs 16 4334 245
score: 295 to 178

Match 103
868 2056 987 vs 1741 2252 3476
score: 284 to 194
Great expectations from 987 then... Also will be fun for me to watch Match 103. I wonder if there will be any discs left to score.

Gregor 15-07-2013 00:21
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1282762)
I'm on my way to IRI and currently about 2 hours west of Albuquerque. After seeing this match schedule just now, I'm thinking I might as well just turn around and head back to LA.:D Can't though, I have the 3476 robot with me!
Enjoy your 4(?) day drive. :rolleyes:

Siri 15-07-2013 00:22
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Yikes. (In the best possible terrifyingly-awesome way.)

Anyone feel like running a strength of schedule?

Gregor 15-07-2013 00:25
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1282768)
Yikes. (In the best possible terrifyingly-awesome way.)

Anyone feel like running a strength of schedule?
Isn't that this?

dodar 15-07-2013 00:29
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1282769)
Isn't that this?
No, thats a final proposed ranking by schedule W/L.

Siri 15-07-2013 00:29
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1282769)
Isn't that this?
Strength of schedule compares predicted rank in a given schedule (as posted, what you linked) to the average difficulty of a schedule.* There are several ways to do it, though I'm a fan of the Joe Ross method.

*Apologies, this is a terrible description based on trying to generalize a few different methods non-technically.

Caleb Sykes 15-07-2013 00:37
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
No matches with score under 100 points...
Quote:
36 4814 45 1503 829 1334 624 89.17 207.73
Almost :)

Gregor 15-07-2013 00:40
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1282771)
Strength of schedule compares predicted rank in a given schedule (as posted, what you linked) to the average difficulty of a schedule.* There are several ways to do it, though I'm a fan of the Joe Ross method.

*Apologies, this is a terrible description based on trying to generalize a few different methods non-technically.
That actually makes sense, thanks.

Caleb Sykes 15-07-2013 01:03
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Things that I hope to see at this competition:
all 28 AUTO discs scored
6 colored discs in the pyramid goal
double 30-point hang
3rd level goal so full that teams start shooting at the 2nd level
Human players not throwing colored discs because they are all out
1986 and 254 surprise showing (I can dream, can't I)

Boe 15-07-2013 01:16
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by inkling16 (Post 1282775)
Things that I hope to see at this competition:
all 28 AUTO discs scored
6 colored discs in the pyramid goal
double 30-point hang
3rd level goal so full that teams start shooting at the 2nd level
Human players not throwing colored discs because they are all out
1986 and 254 surprise showing (I can dream, can't I)
id add a 300+ score without penalties

Caleb Sykes 15-07-2013 01:26
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
id add a 300+ score without penalties
I was going to put those exact words but I forgot

Jay O'Donnell 15-07-2013 07:54
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by inkling16 (Post 1282775)
Things that I hope to see at this competition:
all 28 AUTO discs scored
6 colored discs in the pyramid goal
double 30-point hang
3rd level goal so full that teams start shooting at the 2nd level
Human players not throwing colored discs because they are all out
1986 and 254 surprise showing (I can dream, can't I)
I'm pretty sure all of those already happened at other competitions except for 28 discs scored in auto.

Gregor 15-07-2013 08:03
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Money 1058 (Post 1282798)
I'm pretty sure all of those already happened at other competitions except for 28 discs scored in auto.
I've never seen teams shooting in the 2 point goal because the 3 point was full.

Jay O'Donnell 15-07-2013 08:10
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1282799)
I've never seen teams shooting in the 2 point goal because the 3 point was full.
I believe it happened at either MSC or at one of the offseason events I've attended, but I know that I've seen a FCS change goals because they were bouncing out of the 3 point goal due to its fullness.

AGPapa 15-07-2013 09:21
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Here is a strength of schedule calculation, from easiest schedule to most difficult. Numbers should be from team 27's database. Let me know if you think something's wrong.

EDIT: I think something was wrong. Values were off by a factor of 9/8. Should (hopefully) be fixed now.

Code:
Team        AllyOPR  OppOPR        Delta
3947                65.63        56.65        8.98
3539                66.96        58.41        8.55
3928                70.47        62.1        8.37
48                69.48        61.57        7.91
303                66.2        58.32        7.88
1241                66.48        58.81        7.68
3847                66.08        58.4        7.68
1024                64.29        57        7.3
1310                63.06        57        6.06
868                65.28        60.19        5.09
2826                65.5        60.46        5.04
2451                65.13        60.1        5.03
862                63.08        58.14        4.94
987                67.84        63.75        4.09
245                64        60.28        3.72
461                64.39        60.98        3.41
829                61.39        58.26        3.13
447                63.14        60.38        2.76
1592                63.08        60.35        2.73
2056                62.94        60.62        2.32
1114                62.08        59.94        2.14
51                61.43        59.34        2.09
1902                63.58        61.57        2.01
359                63.55        61.71        1.85
2474                64.84        63.13        1.71
1477                62.6        61.06        1.53
33                60.67        59.16        1.51
1676                62.69        61.18        1.51
624                64.71        63.3        1.41
1334                61.78        60.46        1.32
2648                62.99        62.12        0.87
1625                62.07        61.29        0.79
118                59.63        59.09        0.54
67                62.8        62.45        0.34
116                64.04        63.73        0.32
2252                62.24        61.94        0.3
4265                64.43        64.2        0.23
45                63.2        63.39        -0.19
16                62.74        63.12        -0.38
3476                62.82        63.36        -0.54
4334                61.39        62.14        -0.75
125                61.15        62.05        -0.9
2590                59.2        60.15        -0.95
68                62.3        63.28        -0.97
2175                60.86        61.92        -1.07
195                60.39        61.77        -1.38
27                62.77        64.6        -1.83
469                59.43        61.66        -2.24
3467                59.53        62.52        -2.99
71                58.21        61.4        -3.19
1732                60.55        64.04        -3.49
234                61.57        65.1        -3.53
148                58.92        62.75        -3.83
1538                61.56        66.06        -4.5
2338                59.1        63.85        -4.74
11                58.11        62.89        -4.78
1640                60.83        65.85        -5.02
20                59.07        64.11        -5.04
3641                59.03        64.18        -5.15
2337                60.02        65.57        -5.54
2468                55.63        61.17        -5.54
217                57.82        63.54        -5.73
4039                56.12        62.16        -6.04
696                58.23        64.84        -6.6
1741                59.63        67.04        -7.41
1503                54.39        62.4        -8.01
4814                57.65        67.51        -9.86
111                52.74        63.08        -10.34
967                54.15        66.58        -12.42

MechEng83 15-07-2013 09:36
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1282799)
I've never seen teams shooting in the 2 point goal because the 3 point was full.
We did this during one of our matches on Newton when we were playing the FCS role.

MSawan 15-07-2013 09:41
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AGPapa (Post 1282815)

Team AllyOPR OppOPR Delta
4814 64.86 75.95 -11.09
Well, we've got a really tough schedule ahead of us :ahh:

Good luck to all teams at IRI and see you there later this week!

z_beeblebrox 15-07-2013 10:05
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MSawan (Post 1282817)
Well, we've got a really tough schedule ahead of us :ahh:

Good luck to all teams at IRI and see you there later this week!
It's not all that bad for you guys. The predicted scores don't include defense...

Akash Rastogi 15-07-2013 10:21
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
11's match schedule - ouch.

Hoping for the best.

MechEng83 15-07-2013 10:52
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AGPapa (Post 1282815)
Code:
Team        AllyOPR  OppOPR        Delta
1741                59.63        67.04        -7.41
If I surmise the calculation method correctly, our opponents' average match score is over 200!
Also, there are only 3 teams who have average alliances above 67.04 -- 3928, 48, and 987.


As a side note, I noticed if you turn the negative sign in our delta 90 degrees, you get our team number.

wesbass23 15-07-2013 11:06
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MechEng83 (Post 1282831)
As a side note, I noticed if you turn the negative sign in our delta 90 degrees, you get our team number.

This is probably the most important piece of all the data provided so far :D As we all know very well this is no such thing as a guaranteed win.

evanperryg 15-07-2013 11:23
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunder910 (Post 1282752)
Your data from the 1114 spreadsheet is from before championships. Could you update the info with post-champs data (probably from Ed Law's spreadsheet).
Where can I find that data? That would help a lot. I have a suspicion my team's OPR is going to be ~20 points higher post champs. :D


Quote:
Originally Posted by Aidan H. (Post 1282758)
Has anyone found a match in the schedule that contains three 3rd level climbers (30 pt.) on the same alliance? I would suspect that if any event will have three robots at the top of one pyramid, it will be this one.
We have a match against 2. Would be cool to see 3 up there, though.

Kevin Leonard 15-07-2013 11:31
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by evanperryg (Post 1282835)
Where can I find that data? That would help a lot. I have a suspicion my team's OPR is going to be ~20 points higher post champs. :D
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2174
The one all the way down on the list of downloads is the most recent. There are a few quirks to it that I (in my lack of knowledge about excel) don't know how to change. If you go to each team in the "Query" page, it has their most up-to-date information.

evanperryg 15-07-2013 11:35
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunder910 (Post 1282836)
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2174
The one all the way down on the list of downloads is the most recent. There are a few quirks to it that I (in my lack of knowledge about excel) don't know how to change. If you go to each team in the "Query" page, it has their most up-to-date information.
Cool, thanks! This is (end of) my first year in FRC so I don't know my way around CD too well yet.

I will fix it and re-upload it here!

evanperryg 15-07-2013 12:37
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
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Here is the updated numbers, with a little weighting system in order to compensate slightly for changes in teams' performance over time. I took each team's overall end-of-season OPR and averaged it with their highest regional OPR. This should compensate for improvements the teams have made during the season and between champs and IRI. Also included regular OPR for those of you who may not like this idea. If anyone is interested in how I decided on this system for weighting OPR, feel free to ask.

Attachment 15073

JB987 15-07-2013 12:37
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wesbass23 (Post 1282832)
This is probably the most important piece of all the data provided so far :D As we all know very well this is no such thing as a guaranteed win.
Especially since many teams will be using drivers other than the ones that helped achieve their OPR's to begin with;)

Karthik 15-07-2013 12:53
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MSawan (Post 1282817)
Well, we've got a really tough schedule ahead of us :ahh:

Good luck to all teams at IRI and see you there later this week!
Most people thought you had a really tough match schedule at Champs, and you seemed to handle that pretty well. :)

JB987 15-07-2013 15:38
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Does anyone know for sure what the link to the webcast showing all of these fantastic matches will be?

nicholsjj 15-07-2013 16:04
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Looks like it will take all of 4 matches to blow away my 50 climb point limit prediction. :rolleyes: I personally think that match 48 will result in the highest point total for the season by a single alliance but I might be wrong(usually am). Good luck and congratulations to every team attending IRI.

Jack_poldon 15-07-2013 22:46
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
The 5 top matches I'm most looking forward to are:

1. Match 48- 16,4334,245 vs. 987,1114,67
(Dangerous Blue Vs. High Climbing and Scoring Red)

2. Match 7*- 3539,469,1310 vs. 829,2338,1732
(7 Disc Auto Club and Versatile Blue vs. Cycling Red)

3. Match 103- 1741,2252,3476 vs. 868,2056,987
(Underdog Yet Lethal Blue vs. Complete Package Red)

4. Match 26- 1902,118,987 vs. 469,624,2474
(Beautiful and Efficient Blue vs. Competitive Red)

5. Match 16- 4039,2056,2337 vs. 217,1241,71
(Maple Leaf Blue vs. Legendary Red)

*Slightly biased with match 7 :p

Aside from the matches, I am looking forward to atmosphere and experience at IRI. Our team has never been to champs until this year, haven't been to an off-season event in a number of years and never imagined to experience the success we have had this year. We are looking forward to being surrounded by such established and legendary teams for a whole weekend!

Looking forward to a great event!!! Can't wait!

evanperryg 16-07-2013 10:26
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack_poldon (Post 1282915)
*Slightly biased with match 7 :p
It's a pretty big deal for us, too, since 1732 picked us at Wisconsin this year and that's the first regional we have ever won. I'm also looking forward to match 52 to see 2 really good level 3 climbs on a single pyramid!

efoote868 16-07-2013 20:12
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Made two bets with my dad, a coke that there will be a score of at least 295 in qualifications, and a score of at least 295 in eliminations.

Don't let me down. ;)

runneals 19-07-2013 01:54
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1282845)
Especially since many teams will be using drivers other than the ones that helped achieve their OPR's to begin with;)
And all the "acts of god" that prevented us from going to champs twice lol... If anyone at IRI sees this, remember that anything can, and WILL happen when you least expect it *cough* finals *cough*!

runneals 19-07-2013 01:55
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Did some predictions for today's (Friday's) matches. The data came from the updates OPR from 2834. I averaged out the Auton, Climb, and Teleop Points. Some of the TOTALS (of both the blue/red alliance) are pretty crazy!

Matches to watch tomorrow are:
Massive Total Points (b/w red & blue alliances):
40 (Total 527)
43 (Total 527)
48 (Total 510)
38 (Total 493 - The highest match that will be the closest)

Teleop:
7 (Blue could have a 160 pt teleop)
48 (Red could have a 160 pt teleop)
49 (Red could have a 163 pt teleop)

Auton:
49 (Red could have a 106 pt auton)
43 (Blue could have a 101 pt auton)

Alliance Totals:
7 (Blue could have a high of 304 pts)
49 (Red could top the Blue high of 304 points with their own 318 point high)

Climbing Totals:
27 (Blue could have a total of 60 climbing points)
48 (Red could have a total of 60 climbing points)
I found this interesting that no one is going to get above 60 according to the stats.

View it here!

MechEng83 19-07-2013 05:51
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by runneals (Post 1283365)
Auton:
49 (Red could have a 106 pt auton)
43 (Blue could have a 101 pt auton)
Let's apply the reality filter and recognize that the max auton score is 90...

Aren Siekmeier 19-07-2013 07:54
Re: 2013 IRI Match Schedule - "TENTATIVE"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MechEng83 (Post 1283383)
Let's apply the reality filter and recognize that the max auton score is 90...
Also remember the most an alliance can score in teleop with their own discs is 45*3 + 6*6 = 171 (not counting any unused auto discs), so we're close to saturation there too. More realistically, this is 51*3=153, although with floor pickups "stealing" some, the balance could end up off a little.

The raw OPR calculation starts to break down more than usual at the top end :yikes:


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