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Jay O'Donnell 23-07-2013 12:42

Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
I remember there being a thread like this last year that was pretty interesting, so I figured I'd make one for 2013. Who were the best 3 robots in your state (or province) this year? Here's what I have for NH:
3467: 3 disk auto, 4-6 reliable cycles, and a 15 second 30 point climber that has only fallen once (During IRI). This awesome robot went to quarterfinals at GSR, won Pine Tree, quarterfinals on Archimedes, won Battlecry, and semi finals at IRI. What a season for such a young team.
1519: The perennial New England powerhouse did it again in 2013. A full court shooter and 10 point hang led them to Semi finals at GSR and a victory in North Carolina. They then joined 33 and 469 as Archimedes champs, and fell one victory short of a championship. They then were finalists at Battlecry and won Mayhem in Merrimack.
1922: Although they weren't able to get past the quarterfinals, Oz-Ram was one of the best cyclers in New Hampshire. Another quality bot from an awesome team.
So what about your state? (Or province)

nicholsjj 23-07-2013 12:52

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I'm going to leave this thread here as it was about the top three teams from you're area/state. It would also be nice to here more about other teams, because you can never learn about enough about FRC teams.:D
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ght=Powerhouse

jwallace15 23-07-2013 13:41

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For Michigan (in my own opinion)
33: Very effective floor pickup, 7 disk auton, 10pt hang.

469: Centerline Auton, effective floor pickup, 10pt hang. Capabilities to FCS

67: Very accurate FCS, effective cycler if needed, 30pt or 10pt hang (30pt can dump)

The only downside to 67 is that they can be blocked easily when Full Court Shooting.

That's like my dream alliance. If competitions allowed for 4 team alliances (like some off-season ones do), I would like to add 2337. Their floor pickup is good, their shooting is good, and their blocker is very powerful against short and tall Full Court Shooters.

3539 and 2054 were also pretty good cyclers and 7-point auton-ers.

But for a top 3, it's 33, 67, and 469 for me.

Ilovepineapples 23-07-2013 15:09

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The top three bots in Minnesota:

#1: 2052 - The best cycler in Minnesota, they competed at Lake Superior, 10K Lakes, Championships, and the MN State tournament. They competed in the elimination matches at all of their events, winning Lake Superior, 10K Lakes and the MN State Tournament.

#2: 2169 - Arguably the best FCS in the world, when it is working. They competed at Northern Lights, the Colorado Regional, Championships and the MN State Tournament. They competed in elmination matches at all of their events, winning Northern Lights and the Colorado Regional. They also advanced the farthest at Championships a MN team has ever reached - alliance captain of a finalist on Galileo.

#3: 3313 - The bucket innovator. Team 3313 increased their social media presence this year by leaps and bounds. I would say Team 3313 is one of the lead innovators in Minnesota with their social media advances. Through this they were able to post videos on how their robot worked - including posting a video on how well a simple HomeDepot bucket can be used as a frisbee collector/sorter. This influenced many robot designs throughout the world, while it can be argued that they didn't come up with the idea originally, they certainly marketed it. 3313 many not have won any events themselves but many event-winning robots used the "bucket-design" as marketed by 3313.

Honorable Mention: 2175 - The Fighting Calculators

MrTechCenter 23-07-2013 15:22

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California (tough, tough decision):

#1 Team 254 Cheezy Poofs: Fastest level 3 climb in the world, good floor pickup and shooter. Overall great robot.


#2 Team 1538 Holy Cows: Daisy Thunder was incredible. Good performance at San Diego and great performance at Inland Empire and outstanding performance at Championships.


#3 Team 1717 D'Penguineers: Quick in-perimeter floor pickup, ability to shoot full court, amazing targeting, innovator in control.


If I could pick a fourth, I would definitely say 3476 Code Orange because, I mean, they were on Einstein, great floor pickup, great autonomous, great targeting, you could arguably put them at #2, I admit some bias there.

Mrcope9 23-07-2013 16:30

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In Louisiana...

1. 3753, consistant cycler, 10 pt hang
2. 2992, 1 point dump, 30 pt climb+ dump
3. 3606, consistant 30 pt climb

Pault 23-07-2013 16:51

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Massachusetts:

126: Amazing cycler with buzzer beater hang.

190: Climb and dump robot with a 3 disk autonomous that defends for half the match before going to climb.

125: Great cycler, awesome blocking mechanism, buzzer beater hang, and a floor pickup (though rarely used for more than their 4/5 disk autonomous).

Madison 23-07-2013 16:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tickspe15 (Post 1284104)
In no specific order
Washington:
1899: amazing use of wood for the entire robot
1425:great full court shooter with amazing drivers
1983: Great shooter with only reliable 5 disk auto in washington.sadly one of the slowest 10pt hangers i saw this year

1425 is from Oregon. ;)

Gregor 23-07-2013 17:01

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There were no good robots in our state.

In our province however, I'd have to say 1114*, 2056*, and 1310.

1114. 3-4 cycles, 50 point climb consistanly. #1 seed at IRI.

2056. One of (if not the best) floor pickup robot in the world. If there are disks on the ground, they won't be there for long. Very consistant 7 disk auto. #2 seed at IRI.

1310. Another fantastic floor loader that was very good at sweeping. Another reliable 7 disk, but their full court ability was their least famous attribute that makes them so good. #3 seed at IRI.

*1114 over 2056 you ask? Well 2056 made a robot primarily to win regionals. Their stellar floor pickup gave them ridiculous AP, which seeded them first at every regional they attended. They had the control in their hands at every regional they attended. 1114 made a robot to do well at the championship. They proved this by being the overall #1 pick on Galileo.

1114's higher poing ceiling gives them the edge, but both machines were constantly pushing each other, and it really is too close to call.

Link07 23-07-2013 17:02

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For New Jersey

2590 - Amazing ground pickup and autonomous, won two events, and a chairmans award.

1676 - Very accurate cycler, won a district and an EI at MAR champs, performed very well at IRI

303 - Great FCS, while struggling in MAR play, won Newton and almost made it to Einstein finals.

Tetraman 23-07-2013 17:04

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New York produced many good teams this year, and the top 3 are well deserving.

#20, The Rocketeers
Not only the top NY team of the year, but also the top NY team - end of sentence. Think of it like this: they were the only New York team selected for IRI. They had a great machine this year and they shown it with impressive wins, including a 15-0-0 record at the Connecticut Regional, shooting less than 100 points in only 2 of those 15 matches.

#2791, Shaker Robotics.
An overall impressive robot this year. While I could give this spot to about 10 other teams, Shaker Robotics has to be mentioned. They played impressivly at WPI, earning top spot and picking team 20. So even though they just got finalist, if you make it first seed and pick the overall best NY team, then you are getting the second overall NY team by golly.

#3003, TAN(X)
Again, I could give this spot to so many teams, but I want to specifically highlight 3003. They won the most difficult FLR to date, played solidly at Buckeye and was ranked 34th in Archemedies with a 5-3 record. Still need more proof? They went 24-14-0 this year. Their total record from 2009 to 2012 was 18-25-2. Yes, they won more matches in 2013 than they had in their previous 4 years combined. Let's hope they can keep it up.

Akash Rastogi 23-07-2013 17:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetraman (Post 1284117)

#2791, Shaker Robotics.
An overall impressive robot this year. While I could give this spot to about 10 other teams, Shaker Robotics has to be mentioned. They played impressivly at WPI, earning top spot and picking team 20. So even though they just got finalist, if you make it first seed and pick the overall best NY team, then you are getting the second overall NY team by golly.


It is also really important to note that Shaker played weeks 1 and 2 due to proximity to GSR and WPI. I think that if they had even another week or so to develop and iterate their systems, we would have seen them play at Champs.

Koko Ed 23-07-2013 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetraman (Post 1284117)
New York produced many good teams this year, and the top 3 are well deserving.

#20, The Rocketeers
Not only the top NY team of the year, but also the top NY team - end of sentence. Think of it like this: they were the only New York team selected for IRI. They had a great machine this year and they shown it with impressive wins, including a 15-0-0 record at the Connecticut Regional, shooting less than 100 points in only 2 of those 15 matches.

#2791, Shaker Robotics.
An overall impressive robot this year. While I could give this spot to about 10 other teams, Shaker Robotics has to be mentioned. They played impressivly at WPI, earning top spot and picking team 20. So even though they just got finalist, if you make it first seed and pick the overall best NY team, then you are getting the second overall NY team by golly.

#3003, TAN(X)
Again, I could give this spot to so many teams, but I want to specifically highlight 3003. They won the most difficult FLR to date, played solidly at Buckeye and was ranked 34th in Archemedies with a 5-3 record. Still need more proof? They went 24-14-0 this year. Their total record from 2009 to 2012 was 18-25-2. Yes, they won more matches in 2013 than they had in their previous 4 years combined. Let's hope they can keep it up.

No love for 3015?

AdamHeard 23-07-2013 17:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetraman (Post 1284117)
#3003, TAN(X)
Again, I could give this spot to so many teams, but I want to specifically highlight 3003. They won the most difficult FLR to date, played solidly at Buckeye and was ranked 34th in Archemedies with a 5-3 record. Still need more proof? They went 24-14-0 this year. Their total record from 2009 to 2012 was 18-25-2. Yes, they won more matches in 2013 than they had in their previous 4 years combined. Let's hope they can keep it up.

That's a very impressive turnaround, it's always see that sort of thing to happen.

Curious if 3003 could give any insight into why they did so much better.

Tetraman 23-07-2013 17:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1284119)
No love for 3015?

Oh 3015 is one of those teams you can sub in for the second or third place they were exceptional this year and have been for a few years now - but 3015 didn't win an event this year where 3003 did, so for best team of 2013 goes to teams that win events. And my reasoning for having Shaker at 2 regardless of not winning an event was because at BAE they lost to the eventual world champion 610.

These are just my thoughts, you really can rank the second or third robot to whatever you want this year. The only absolute for NY is that Team 20 was by far the best as they usually are.

Justin Shelley 23-07-2013 17:31

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In Missouri for Ultimate Ascent:

1) 1986- 30pt climb, amazing cycler, and 7 point auto with a record of 57-6-0

2) 3284- 10pt climb, good cycler, and amazing defense!!! Record of 31-19-0

3) 1806- 40pt climb, amazing cycler, and FCS! Record of 33-9-0

KrazyCarl92 23-07-2013 17:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetraman (Post 1284122)
The only absolute for NY is that Team 20 was by far the best as they usually are.

If by usually, you mean for the second or third time in 22 seasons :P.

I also haven't seen the Clarkson twins, 229/4124 mentioned for NY yet. They won at GSR with 610 and put up some really high scores in Boston. It was a shame that 4124 was not selected in Curie. These guys and gals also did it all on an extremely limited budget and almost exclusively college students as mentors.

cmrnpizzo14 23-07-2013 17:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KrazyCarl92 (Post 1284128)
I also haven't seen the Clarkson twins, 229/4124 mentioned for NY yet. They won at GSR with 610 and put up some really high scores in Boston. It was a shame that 4124 was not selected in Curie. These guys and gals also did it all on an extremely limited budget and almost exclusively college students as mentors.

I agree, I believe that they were two of the best cyclers in NY. And who could forget all those talons???

EDIT: Ironically, this was my 229th post.

Jay O'Donnell 23-07-2013 19:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1284115)
There were no good robots in our state. In our province however, I'd have to say 1114*, 2056*, and 1310.

If you'll notice I said state or province twice in my post just for our friends in the north. Although I guess I should also say or country for Israel, Mexico and other countries.

Damiaen_Florian 23-07-2013 19:39

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The top 3 robots in Connecticut in my opinion would have to be in no particular order:

2168 - Solid 3 disk autonomous, great drivetrain, (as well as a skilled driver who knows how to use its advantages) very fast cycler, and a reliable hang, an all around superb robot they're definitely someone to watch out for in the next years especially as districts roll around.

177 - Again a great 3 disc autonomous as well as a reliable climber, however what really made the Bobcats such a lethal team was their ability to cycle with such accuracy that you don't find in some other tall bots, but they could also full court shooter with extremely high precision when they needed to as well. Not to mention that I can say through experience that they are a very gracious team to work with as we played with them in eliminations of one of our offseason events.

230 - This team has consistently built great robots that are always a threat to be contended with, they have a great 3 disc autonomous, are a phenomenal cycler, could block full court shooters (which unfortunately we had to run into a few times:( ), had a 20 point climb which was rare in other robots. They also use a Mecanum drive train, which even though Mecanum receives a lot of bad rep they were able to use it to their advantages which gave them a whole new side to be lethal with.

Peyton Yeung 23-07-2013 19:53

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For Indiana

868-Amazingly fast cycler and winner of both the Indiana Regionals and the State championships.

829-Also a fast cycler capable of keeping up with 868 with an amazing utility arm.

234-A fast cycler who lost in the finals of Boilermaker to 868 and the Hawaiian Kids and won Crossroads and the state championships with 868.

Kevin Leonard 23-07-2013 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KrazyCarl92 (Post 1284128)
If by usually, you mean for the second or third time in 22 seasons :P.

I also haven't seen the Clarkson twins, 229/4124 mentioned for NY yet. They won at GSR with 610 and put up some really high scores in Boston. It was a shame that 4124 was not selected in Curie. These guys and gals also did it all on an extremely limited budget and almost exclusively college students as mentors.

694 was also forgotten. They won NYC, then proceeded to put up some big numbers in CT.

So excluding 20, i'd say the top teams in NY in no particular order were:

694
4124/229
3003
3015

All almost exclusively cyclers.

EDIT: How the heck did I forget 2791? Shaker is definitely also in the running for top 3 NY robots this year (especially since they seeded 1st and picked us at WPI). I'd love to see any of these cyclers go head-to-head on an open field. See who can put up more cycles.

khanh111 23-07-2013 20:01

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The Pacific Northwest:

1983 Skunkworks
They had a great full-court shooter. They were undefeated in qualifications in Curie division at Champs. They are a strong presence in the Northwest.

2557 SOTABots
They had arguably the best cycler in the Northwest. Fast, agile, and accurate.

2471 Team Mean Machine
Another team that does well each year. They had a full court shooter.

JohnFogarty 23-07-2013 20:25

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South Carolina -

#1 4451 - Robotz Garage- Possibly the best rookie South Carolina has ever produced..we'll have to wait for next season to be sure of that but so far so good. 3 RAS including a World Division RAS.

#2 3489 - CatEgory 5 - Winning the Peachtree Regional included beating out the wildly successful teams like 624, 4552 (1771's reincarnation), and 2415.

Third is somewhat of a tossup..teams like 1319, 342, & 1102 all built fairly solid machines. However...

#3 4452 - FIRST NOBLE Team - was the only other team to attend world from SC due to their RAS at the Peachtree Regional and you can't ignore that they also went undefeated in the quals to end up pairing up with 624. It was a shame to see that alliance have technical difficulties when it mattered most.

Someone can throw out a number if they think I missed someone who performed better.

Kevin Leonard 23-07-2013 20:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by khanh111 (Post 1284154)
The Pacific Northwest:

1983 Skunkworks
They had a great full-court shooter. They were undefeated in qualifications in Curie division at Champs. They are a strong presence in the Northwest.

I'm pretty sure 1983 did NOT have a full-court shooter.

M. Lillis 23-07-2013 21:14

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Three is such a limiting number, but for CT I would pick (no particular order):

195 - Crazy accurate full court shooter, probably one of the top 5 FCS this season. (Maybe only 67, 225, 2169, or 469 could match their power)

2168 - They had a solid scoring robot at CT and their crazy defense at WPI shut down the high offensive power of 20 and 2791.

1699 - They went completely unnoticed throughout the CT Regional at a 3-6 record (Even though they placed 2nd at Chesapeake Regional). They were a good cycler/defender/blocker. They also improved their shooter for the CT Championship (An offseason event).

All three of these teams were great to work with in matches.
There are obviously a lot of talented teams in CT, it was tough to pick just three.

Pault 23-07-2013 21:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damiaen_Florian (Post 1284148)
The top 3 robots in Connecticut in my opinion would have to be in no particular order:

2168 - Solid 3 disk autonomous, great drivetrain, (as well as a skilled driver who knows how to use its advantages) very fast cycler, and a reliable hang, an all around superb robot they're definitely someone to watch out for in the next years especially as districts roll around.

177 - Again a great 3 disc autonomous as well as a reliable climber, however what really made the Bobcats such a lethal team was their ability to cycle with such accuracy that you don't find in some other tall bots, but they could also full court shooter with extremely high precision when they needed to as well. Not to mention that I can say through experience that they are a very gracious team to work with as we played with them in eliminations of one of our offseason events.

230 - This team has consistently built great robots that are always a threat to be contended with, they have a great 3 disc autonomous, are a phenomenal cycler, could block full court shooters (which unfortunately we had to run into a few times:( ), had a 20 point climb which was rare in other robots. They also use a Mecanum drive train, which even though Mecanum receives a lot of bad rep they were able to use it to their advantages which gave them a whole new side to be lethal with.

I appreciate that you didn't put your own team on your list, but I think everybody knows that a list of the top 3 Connecticut teams this year is incomplete without 195.

gibbta 23-07-2013 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder910 (Post 1284159)
I'm pretty sure 1983 did NOT have a full-court shooter.

I do not believe 1983 had a full court shooter they had a very strong mulit speed drive train and in Elensberg they finally got there shotter up and running just barley by the last day of qualifiers.

For my top 3 for washigton

2471- Team Mean Machine- Strong very accurate full court shooter

2557- Soda Bots- By far the best cycler

1983- Skunk works robotics - At the Elensberg Regonal was by far the best defensive bot there also by the time of Eliminations was scoring hard core as well.

tickspe15 23-07-2013 22:09

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbta (Post 1284167)
I do not believe 1983 had a full court shooter they had a very strong mulit speed drive train and in Elensberg they finally got there shotter up and running just barley by the last day of qualifiers.

For my top 3 for washigton

2471- Team Mean Machine- Strong very accurate full court shooter

2557- Soda Bots- By far the best cycler

1983- Skunk works robotics - At the Elensberg Regonal was by far the best defensive bot there also by the time of Eliminations was scoring hard core as well.

What number were you using to determine that sota was the best cycler?
360,1318,1899,1983 all scored more points in teleop without full court shooting

bkahl 23-07-2013 22:11

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Many People in CT are also leaving out 175. Buzz had a Consistent 4-5 Disc autonomous this year and could cycle very efficiently. They held their own at Connecticut and Champs, and helped 195 to a win at the Beantown Blitz.

Billfred 23-07-2013 22:11

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John_1102 (Post 1284157)
South Carolina -

#1 4451 - Robotz Garage- Possibly the best rookie South Carolina has ever produced..we'll have to wait for next season to be sure of that but so far so good. 3 RAS including a World Division RAS.

#2 3489 - CatEgory 5 - Winning the Peachtree Regional included beating out the wildly successful teams like 624, 4552 (1771's reincarnation), and 2415.

Third is somewhat of a tossup..teams like 1319, 342, & 1102 all built fairly solid machines. However...

#3 4452 - FIRST NOBLE Team - was the only other team to attend world from SC due to their RAS at the Peachtree Regional and you can't ignore that they also went undefeated in the quals to end up pairing up with 624. It was a shame to see that alliance have technical difficulties when it mattered most.

Someone can throw out a number if they think I missed someone who performed better.

4451 and 3489 are absolutely 1 and 2 this year, but 11th seed at Orlando is a pretty big booster for 342 to eke out #3. Could argue it either way--hopefully both 342 and 4452 will make it to SCRIW so we can settle this once and for all.

who716 23-07-2013 22:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damiaen_Florian (Post 1284148)
The top 3 robots in Connecticut in my opinion would have to be in no particular order:

2168 - Solid 3 disk autonomous, great drivetrain, (as well as a skilled driver who knows how to use its advantages) very fast cycler, and a reliable hang, an all around superb robot they're definitely someone to watch out for in the next years especially as districts roll around.

177 - Again a great 3 disc autonomous as well as a reliable climber, however what really made the Bobcats such a lethal team was their ability to cycle with such accuracy that you don't find in some other tall bots, but they could also full court shooter with extremely high precision when they needed to as well. Not to mention that I can say through experience that they are a very gracious team to work with as we played with them in eliminations of one of our offseason events.

230 - This team has consistently built great robots that are always a threat to be contended with, they have a great 3 disc autonomous, are a phenomenal cycler, could block full court shooters (which unfortunately we had to run into a few times:( ), had a 20 point climb which was rare in other robots. They also use a Mecanum drive train, which even though Mecanum receives a lot of bad rep they were able to use it to their advantages which gave them a whole new side to be lethal with.

Well, I almost agree with you.... obviously your being generous by not putting your team on the list... In my opinion
195- great full court shooter, can cycle when being defended and shoot from anywhere.
228 very very fast cycler, with an amazingly smart drive team also has last second climb.
Then I would say 177 for the same reasons,
Honorable mentions: 230,and 2168 they where both very very good and could easily be put into the too three.
Conneticut had a lot of good robots this year

Basel A 23-07-2013 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jwallace15 (Post 1284057)
For Michigan (in my own opinion)
33: Very effective floor pickup, 7 disk auton, 10pt hang.

469: Centerline Auton, effective floor pickup, 10pt hang. Capabilities to FCS

67: Very accurate FCS, effective cycler if needed, 30pt or 10pt hang (30pt can dump)

While there apparently isn't any argument as to the actual top 3 for Michigan, I'd like to give some bonus points to 1918 for greatest potential. They about as close to having it all as any robot I saw all year, though the end result was that every facet of their game needed work.

As mentioned, 3539 and 2054 were very good. 1718, 245, etc. are worth shouting-out as well.

LeelandS 23-07-2013 22:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetraman (Post 1284122)
Oh 3015 is one of those teams you can sub in for the second or third place they were exceptional this year and have been for a few years now - but 3015 didn't win an event this year where 3003 did, so for best team of 2013 goes to teams that win events. And my reasoning for having Shaker at 2 regardless of not winning an event was because at BAE they lost to the eventual world champion 610.

These are just my thoughts, you really can rank the second or third robot to whatever you want this year. The only absolute for NY is that Team 20 was by far the best as they usually are.

I gotta say, your definition of "best robot", Evan, is very interesting. Definitely unconventional. I find it extremely unfair to say the best robots are the ones who win events. My team, 1405, captained the Finger Lakes winning alliance (captains of 3003), but I would never in a million years say we were the best robot at the event, or one of the top teams in NYS for it. Many fantastic robots do not win events.

For New York, I would propose the following:

20: No contest here, 20 is hand down one of, if not THE, best robot from The Empire State. An incredible cycling robot, with a capable floor pick-up as well. With the improvements they had at IRI, I would have considered them one of the stronger robots at the event, were is not for unfortunate issues.

1507: One of the top NY teams from 2012 was off to a shaky start at FLR, with a half-functional floor pick-up that they wasted a little time trying to make work. But come Buckeye, the magic kicked in, with a more than decent +3 auto, and a cycling ability that dominated the tournament. Were it not for them having to bow out in Finals 2 due to technical failure, I would have bet on them as winners.

3015: Ranger Robotics has been such a strong team the past few years, but this year, they nailed it. #1 seed at FLR, #5 seed and Finalist in Virginia, they were truly a force to be reckoned with. At FLR, most thought them the sure-win, until they met the dominant defense of 48 and 1126.

M. Lillis 23-07-2013 22:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bkahl (Post 1284174)
Many People in CT are also leaving out 175. Buzz had a Consistent 4-5 Disc autonomous this year and could cycle very efficiently. They held their own at Connecticut and Champs, and helped 195 to a win at the Beantown Blitz.

I totally agree with you. There were a LOT of good teams in CT last season. There are just so many teams that can be named in the top three; we would need a top 20 list to get all of the strong robots on the list :p

swwrobotics 23-07-2013 23:10

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For Washington DC in my opinion:

1. Team 2900 - Had a working autonomous, could consistently shoot in the middle goal, cycle and 10 point climb THROUGHOUT the whole tournament (made a working pool noodle blocker by the end of the tournament as well).

2. Team 2914 - Had an effective high goal shooting autonomous once the quarterfinals started

3. Team 2912 - Had an effective pool noodle blocker for full-court shooting robots.

Caleb Sykes 23-07-2013 23:51

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Minnesota (not fair since there are so many teams):
2169 King TeC - most consistent FCS I have yet seen. They also shoot discs from the highest possible point, making defense on them a nuisance at best. No big deal you say, just stop them from getting into position. Good luck. They have an incredible shifting drive train. They can climb for 10 like the best of them, but usually don't because they can score more with discs.

2175 The Fighting Calculators - 5-disk auto, guaranteed 4-cycles, can drive circles around defenders, then climb for 10.

2512 Daredevils - FCS to rival even 2169, consistent cycler, ingenious ground pickup, 10-point hang. They've got it all

Honorable mentions:
3018 Nordic Storm - Creativity award at Champs for their 50-point climb/dump.

2705 WE ROBOT - 18 in autonomous, 2 cycles, then a 3rd level climb in every match they played. They surely would have advanced further in every competition (Lake Superior, 10K Lakes, MSHSL State Championship) if they wouldn't have had to play us :(. Definitely one of my favorite robots to watch.

Aren Siekmeier 24-07-2013 02:19

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inkling16 (Post 1284184)
Minnesota (not fair since there are so many teams):
2169 King TeC - most consistent FCS I have yet seen. They also shoot discs from the highest possible point, making defense on them a nuisance at best. No big deal you say, just stop them from getting into position. Good luck. They have an incredible shifting drive train. They can climb for 10 like the best of them, but usually don't because they can score more with discs.

2175 The Fighting Calculators - 5-disk auto, guaranteed 4-cycles, can drive circles around defenders, then climb for 10.

2512 Daredevils - FCS to rival even 2169, consistent cycler, ingenious ground pickup, 10-point hang. They've got it all

Honorable mentions:
3018 Nordic Storm - Creativity award at Champs for their 50-point climb/dump.

2705 WE ROBOT - 18 in autonomous, 2 cycles, then a 3rd level climb in every match they played. They surely would have advanced further in every competition (Lake Superior, 10K Lakes, MSHSL State Championship) if they wouldn't have had to play us :(. Definitely one of my favorite robots to watch.

You are too modest. We of course mustn't forget 2052, with a dead simple machine and a deadly combination of speed and flexibility. You guys easily outcycled us any day, and your flexibility to shoot full court when open really killed by the state championship. And a solid, buzzer beating 10pt hang to boot.

rachelholladay 24-07-2013 09:00

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
I'll actually do the state next to mine, instead of my own. Off the top of my head, judging from Bayou and Razorback -

MIssissippi:

1421 Chaos - 30pt climb + 20pt dump with some 1pt dumps. They were one of the most consistent climbers and I believe one of the best climbers at CMP. They won Razorback with 1477.

456 Siege - Solid cycler with great vision tracking that won them the 'Innovation in Controls Award' at both their regionals

1927 Tempest / 364 Fusion - Pretty good shooters with 10pt hangers.

lynca 24-07-2013 10:57

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I enjoy these threads because it helps me learn about great teams all over the country.
Texas is pretty stacked but the top 3 was pretty clear this year.

Quote:

TEXAS:
118 - Robonauts - 3 regional winner
1477 - Texas Torque - World Champion
148 - Robowranglers - Einstein Team

jessss 24-07-2013 11:32

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Minnesota
1) 2052 - Wonderful cycler, full court shooter and 10 pt hang. 2502 by sure dominated in all Minnesota events, and won Lake Superior, 10,000 Lakes and Minnesota State Tournament. My favorite robot in Minnesota, they were by far my favorite Minnesota team to watch and play against.
2) 2169 - A great full court shooter and made it all the way to the finals in Galileo.
3) 2512 - Another great full court shooter and cycle.

JohnSchneider 24-07-2013 11:36

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1284248)
I enjoy these threads because it helps me learn about great teams all over the country.
Texas is pretty stacked but the top 3 was pretty clear this year.

Texas: Where 2 divisional semi-finalists, and a top25 team aren't even in the top 3.

HumblePie 24-07-2013 12:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred (Post 1284175)
4451 and 3489 are absolutely 1 and 2 this year, but 11th seed at Orlando is a pretty big booster for 342 to eke out #3. Could argue it either way--hopefully both 342 and 4452 will make it to SCRIW so we can settle this once and for all.

Thanks for the love, guys. :D

Based on their consistent scoring at SC and GA, I'd have to cast a vote for 1319 Flash in the top 3.

I can't personally make it to SCRIW this year, but Hugo III will be there, hopefully better than ever. I'll be with you guys in spirit :D

feverittm 24-07-2013 13:06

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khanh111 (Post 1284154)
The Pacific Northwest:

1983 Skunkworks
They had a great full-court shooter. They were undefeated in qualifications in Curie division at Champs. They are a strong presence in the Northwest.

2557 SOTABots
They had arguably the best cycler in the Northwest. Fast, agile, and accurate.

2471 Team Mean Machine
Another team that does well each year. They had a full court shooter.

I would put Crescent Valley (Team 955) in there as well this year. They were a great cycler and won the Portland Regional.

Akash Rastogi 24-07-2013 13:22

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
For NJ, excluding 11, I would say:

2590
1676
2729

Travis Hoffman 24-07-2013 15:26

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Ohio:

379
2252
128

You decide the order.

mdiradoorian 24-07-2013 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1284079)
California (tough, tough decision):

#1 Team 254 Cheezy Poofs: Fastest level 3 climb in the world, good floor pickup and shooter. Overall great robot.


#2 Team 1538 Holy Cows: Daisy Thunder was incredible. Good performance at San Diego and great performance at Inland Empire and outstanding performance at Championships.


#3 Team 1717 D'Penguineers: Quick in-perimeter floor pickup, ability to shoot full court, amazing targeting, innovator in control.


If I could pick a fourth, I would definitely say 3476 Code Orange because, I mean, they were on Einstein, great floor pickup, great autonomous, great targeting, you could arguably put them at #2, I admit some bias there.

What about Team 696? ;)

TheMadCADer 24-07-2013 16:40

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1284248)
I enjoy these threads because it helps me learn about great teams all over the country.
Texas is pretty stacked but the top 3 was pretty clear this year.


TEXAS:
118 - Robonauts - 3 regional winner
1477 - Texas Torque - World Champion
148 - Robowranglers - Einstein Team

Those Texas teams also have some of the best names out there. Unique and descriptive, yet simple and catchy.

DELurker 24-07-2013 16:46

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
In the trivially obvious and no particular order category ...

Delaware:

365 - MOE
1370 - Thermogenesis
(there is no third team in Delaware ... at all...)

Neither team played each other at all this season. We didn't attend the same events, so I cannot really say which was better. Once Duel on the Delaware rolls around, though, there might be some better information... :D

O'Sancheski 24-07-2013 16:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KrazyCarl92 (Post 1284128)
If by usually, you mean for the second or third time in 22 seasons :P.

I also haven't seen the Clarkson twins, 229/4124 mentioned for NY yet. They won at GSR with 610 and put up some really high scores in Boston. It was a shame that 4124 was not selected in Curie. These guys and gals also did it all on an extremely limited budget and almost exclusively college students as mentors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmrnpizzo14 (Post 1284131)
I agree, I believe that they were two of the best cyclers in NY. And who could forget all those talons???

EDIT: Ironically, this was my 229th post.

Thanks for the mention. We strive for success and hope to continue to get better and better each year. This year with our limited budget we decided simplicity was key. We have a group of hard working students who want to learn and get their hands dirty. As a mentor I cannot ask for more.

jimwick 24-07-2013 16:48

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Well, out team is in Vermont, so there are ONLY three bots in our state!

MrTechCenter 24-07-2013 16:53

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiradoorian (Post 1284325)
What about Team 696? ;)

From what I've hear, 696 had a fantastic robot as well, but I didn't get to see it in person or in action. :(

DampRobot 24-07-2013 16:59

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1284335)
From what I've hear, 696 had a fantastic robot as well, but I didn't get to see it in person or in action. :(

I'd like to add 1678. You can't argue with seeding first in their division and going on to play on Einstein.

ENeyman 24-07-2013 17:02

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
For PA, I'd say...

1. 1640- A consistent, fast cycler with a great 30-point climb. Also, an Einstein appearance doesn't hurt.
2. 341- While not as good as 2012, Daisy still built a great bot. As always, they had a great autonomous and consistent shooter.
3. 222- They are always overshadowed by the more famous MAR teams, but these past few years the Tigertrons have shown they are a powerhouse in PA.

Navid Shafa 24-07-2013 17:32

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tickspe15 (Post 1284113)
1983: Great shooter with only reliable 5 disk auto in washington.sadly one of the slowest 10pt hangers i saw this year

In Washington, we were the only 4 disc+ auto, until Spokane. We did have a fairly reliable auto and it certainly helped us at the regional level. However, we didn't get our 6 disc working until the end of Spokane and didn't implement it in a real match until champs.

We certainly had a slow hang for 10 points. We had originally focused on designing a 30-point climber and didn't have the time to implement it, so we were stuck with what remained.
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbta (Post 1284167)
I do not believe 1983 had a full court shooter they had a very strong mulit speed drive train and in

Elensberg they finally got there shotter up and running just barley by the last day of qualifiers.


1983- Skunk works robotics - At the Elensberg Regonal was by far the best defensive bot there also by the time of

Eliminations was scoring hard core as well.


Correct, we did not FCS. We were a cycler with a floor pick-up and we were capable of 5-6 cycles a match. We had a 6WD, with 4 CIMs and dual speed shifting. We can play brutal defense if we have to, but we prefer playing offense. At our first regional, we had a rough start and got to show off our drive train's capabilities.

*I agree with all the PNW teams mentioned before, but I'd also like to add 948. They weren't as versatile as 2471 or 1425 in FCS, but they were the most accurate and had the highest point potential. It was fun playing with all three of these FCS this season. It was interesting to see how differently each of them did an almost identical task and the additional capabilities each of them brought to the alliance.

brennonbrimhall 24-07-2013 17:55

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damiaen_Florian (Post 1284148)
The top 3 robots in Connecticut in my opinion would have to be in no particular order:

2168 - Solid 3 disk autonomous, great drivetrain, (as well as a skilled driver who knows how to use its advantages) very fast cycler, and a reliable hang, an all around superb robot they're definitely someone to watch out for in the next years especially as districts roll around.

177 - Again a great 3 disc autonomous as well as a reliable climber, however what really made the Bobcats such a lethal team was their ability to cycle with such accuracy that you don't find in some other tall bots, but they could also full court shooter with extremely high precision when they needed to as well. Not to mention that I can say through experience that they are a very gracious team to work with as we played with them in eliminations of one of our offseason events.

230 - This team has consistently built great robots that are always a threat to be contended with, they have a great 3 disc autonomous, are a phenomenal cycler, could block full court shooters (which unfortunately we had to run into a few times:( ), had a 20 point climb which was rare in other robots. They also use a Mecanum drive train, which even though Mecanum receives a lot of bad rep they were able to use it to their advantages which gave them a whole new side to be lethal with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by who716 (Post 1284178)
Well, I almost agree with you.... obviously your being generous by not putting your team on the list... In my opinion
195- great full court shooter, can cycle when being defended and shoot from anywhere.
228 very very fast cycler, with an amazingly smart drive team also has last second climb.
Then I would say 177 for the same reasons,
Honorable mentions: 230,and 2168 they where both very very good and could easily be put into the too three.
Conneticut had a lot of good robots this year

Damiaen, you're way too modest. 195 definitely takes the cake for Connecticut – though there were teams not far behind. You guys routinely put up in the ballpark of 100 points on IRI – alone. It's saying something if the presence of your robot directly led 1114/2056/1334 to choose 2337. I was definitely reassured when we ended up being on the same alliance, rather than against each other. :)

The robots listed above are definitely overqualified to be in the top 3. Connecticut fielded so many good robots that the field was incredibly deep at the Connecticut regional. It stinks that we can only pick 3 – which needs changing, if you ask me. ;) But, even so, I'll play by the rules.

177 was another strong competitor this year – they had a crazy drivetrain, FCS ability, and were amazing at both WPI and Connecticut. Not to mention, they have been on Einstein multiple times. My understanding was that they were in the process of making a 30-point climber during the competition season – the addition would have made them the equivalent of 148. Even without it, they put up a ton of points, and ended up ranked 2nd at Connecticut, and secured a win at the inaugural Connecticut State Competition.

228 was known on our team as the orange 610. You guys were quick, agile, and were the best Connecticut cycler – easily. Your showing at Connecticut was extremely impressive, as is the stories of your team's gracious professionalism and coopertition. It's not just metal that makes good bots, it's great teamwork and people who make great bots – like yours.

mdiradoorian 24-07-2013 18:24

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1284335)
From what I've hear, 696 had a fantastic robot as well, but I didn't get to see it in person or in action. :(

Yeah we do have a fantastic robot we got invited to IRI and performed above expectations although we did not make it to the Elims.

MrTechCenter 24-07-2013 18:29

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiradoorian (Post 1284351)
Yeah we do have a fantastic robot we got invited to IRI and performed above expectations although we did not make it to the Elims.

Oh, you guys should come up to Sac next year, you'd win for sure up here ;)

MichaelBick 24-07-2013 20:43

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DampRobot (Post 1284337)
I'd like to add 1678. You can't argue with seeding first in their division and going on to play on Einstein.

There are multiple honorable mentions for CA. 973 was very good too, although they didn't seed very high at CMP. I would say they are the best cycler in California.

I don't remember seeing 1717 FCS, though I could be wrong. I know for sure they didn't have one at LA, though maybe they gained the ability later.

R.C. 24-07-2013 20:49

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MICHAELABICK (Post 1284366)
There are multiple honorable mentions for CA. 973 was very good too, although they didn't seed very high at CMP. I would say they are the best cycler in California.

I don't remember seeing 1717 FCS, though I could be wrong. I know for sure they didn't have one at LA, though maybe they gained the ability later.

They FCS'd at champs and are pretty good at it!

I would have to agree with Micheal.

After 254/1538. 3rd IMO could go to 971/973/1717.All were very very solid!

-RC

AdamHeard 24-07-2013 21:07

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R.C. (Post 1284368)
They FCS'd at champs and are pretty good at it!

I would have to agree with Micheal.

After 254/1538. 3rd IMO could go to 971/973/1717.All were very very solid!

-RC

Can't forget 1662!

696 was good for sure, and this was their best season recently; but they're not top 3 in CA, too many good teams. Top 10 for sure though.

Sir Zordor 24-07-2013 21:32

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Virginia does not have any championship contending robots right now, but

1541- Winners of Virginia Regional

1262 (mine) - Winners of Virginia Regional 2 years now, Winners of Illite Robotics Challenge

401- Semi finalists at Virginia Regional (beat by our alliance), Finalists at Palmetto Regional

Lij2015 24-07-2013 22:01

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Zordor (Post 1284375)
Virginia does not have any championship contending robots right now, but

1541- Winners of Virginia Regional

1262 (mine) - Winners of Virginia Regional 2 years now, Winners of Illite Robotics Challenge

401- Semi finalists at Virginia Regional (beat by our alliance), Finalists at Palmetto Regional

I'd probably throw 612 in over 401, they didn't do well at the Virginia regional because of the #1 seeded alliance.

Kellen Hill 24-07-2013 22:05

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
I'll throw a few out for Georgia even though I didn't get to watch too many matches this year.

2415: While they weren't completely on their game at Peachtree, where I saw them, it seems they started to hit their 7 disk auton and sweep up the floor pretty effectively at champs.

1261: One of the stronger cyclers I was able to see at Peachtree.

4080: Their full court shooting abilities seemed to come out of nowhere as they went the distance for the regional win. Not the most accurate FCS from what I saw, but had the ability to swing matches significantly when they found their spot.

Other teams to note for Georgia, from what I saw, include: 1648, 4509, and 2974

David13 24-07-2013 22:05

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1284115)

In our province however, I'd have to say 1114*, 2056*, and 1310.

I agree with you on the first two, but I would choose 610 over 1310 as the third choice. Given 610's ridiculous speed, driver skill, and shooting velocity, I would argue that they may have been the best cycler in all of FRC (although teams like 1986, 3539, and 1114 may challenge them for that title). At Waterloo I remember a few matches where they went to the feeder station with less than 15 seconds left and still managed to score all four disks and hang for 10. I think they once ran 8 cycles in a game or something absurd like that. Combining that with FCS capability, a 5-disk auto, and a quick 10-point hang, I would give them the #3 spot in Ontario. On a side note, 610 won the World Championships.

My Ontario Top 3: 1114, 2056, 610

Honourable Mentions: 1310, 1334, 1241

Sir Zordor 24-07-2013 22:10

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lij2015 (Post 1284381)
I'd probably throw 612 in over 401, they didn't do well at the Virginia regional because of the #1 seeded alliance.

612 was a very good team I will admit, I was unsure if they were Virginia though I honestly could not remember, but I know 401 and 612 would definitely be very close when it came to how they stacked up (mainly has to do with 612's 2 disk auto versus 3 disk, and had a lower percent of making than 401, but in game about the same saying 612 actually had better firing capabilities and drive train)

Lij2015 24-07-2013 22:11

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Zordor (Post 1284384)
612 was a very good team I will admit, I was unsure if they were Virginia though I honestly could not remember, but I know 401 and 612 would definitely be very close when it came to how they stacked up (mainly has to do with 612's 2 disk auto versus 3 disk, and had a lower percent of making than 401, but in game about the same saying 612 actually had better firing capabilities and drive train)

Yeah, they got picked by backwoods bots and declined from the 8th or 7th seed.

Gregor 24-07-2013 22:22

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David13 (Post 1284383)
...5-disk auto

610 was great, but their floor pickup was lacking, and it only existed for 12 official matches. In those 12 matches I believe they scored something like 4 extra autonomous disks.

1310's 7 disk gives them a 24 point (2 cycle) jump on 610 coming out of auto. 610 is indubitably the better cycler, making at least 2 more cycles a match than 1310. However 1310 has a more consistant full-court shooter, and a floor pickup.

In conclusion, I don't really know who's better.

jamierose 24-07-2013 23:01

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
I agree with Gregor that we're not necessarily better than 1310, at least in terms of the robots.
First of all, we could never full court and intake at the same time because we couldn't fit both mechanisms on at once. Also, like Gregor said, our intake was very inaccurate because we didn't have a proper practice bot to test it on when we made it.

Also, 1310 had an intake, a good FCS, and was able to cycle at a speed comparable to ours.

They also had the same shooter design as the one we had for our first two regionals. We then made a slightly more powerful one for the championship. I don't know how much faster the new one is, but if we could shoot 7 cycles at our first regional I'm sure they have the capability to as well. Our retractable hard stops may make a small difference in cycling time, though, but I don't think we ever measured how they affect cycling time.

Akash Rastogi 24-07-2013 23:26

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MICHAELABICK (Post 1284366)
There are multiple honorable mentions for CA. 973 was very good too, although they didn't seed very high at CMP. I would say they are the best cycler in California.

I don't remember seeing 1717 FCS, though I could be wrong. I know for sure they didn't have one at LA, though maybe they gained the ability later.

I haven't seen videos of all the contenders for best cycler in CA, but after I saw videos of 973 cycling and sinking some centerline auto discs, I was really impressed by their intake as well as their really consistent shooter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ6rbMWrdFM

Anyone know why they were so tall? Did they have FCS abilities that I haven't seen?

MrTechCenter 25-07-2013 02:20

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1284394)
I haven't seen videos of all the contenders for best cycler in CA, but after I saw videos of 973 cycling and sinking some centerline auto discs, I was really impressed by their intake as well as their really consistent shooter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ6rbMWrdFM

Anyone know why they were so tall? Did they have FCS abilities that I haven't seen?

They were indeed a very quick and efficient cycler, one of the best I saw. Their tall design worked out for them, as it allowed their feeder to feed all 4 discs quickly and get their shots off quick as well. And their floor pickup made their entire design linear from ground to shooter. And to climb it was just a simple run into the pyramid.

MichaelBick 25-07-2013 02:41

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1284408)
They were indeed a very quick and efficient cycler, one of the best I saw. Their tall design worked out for them, as it allowed their feeder to feed all 4 discs quickly and get their shots off quick as well. And their floor pickup made their entire design linear from ground to shooter. And to climb it was just a simple run into the pyramid.

From what I heard from Adam they wanted to index all the disks in a straight line. In addition the simpler design allowed them to finish earlier. The simpler design definitely showed as they outclassed other great teams like 1717 at LA.

donkehote 25-07-2013 03:13

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamierose (Post 1284393)
They also had the same shooter design as the one we had for our first two regionals. We then made a slightly more powerful one for the championship. I don't know how much faster the new one is, but if we could shoot 7 cycles at our first regional I'm sure they have the capability to as well.

Not quite true.
As the mentor assigned to the shooter i feel i have to step in here. 1310's shooter has always been very similar to 610's, and all the other teams with 90* curved shooters, however, your post is significantly inaccurate.

1310 always had a shooter in that orientation, and had at least 2 mini cims. Our prototype had 3 minis, and was WAY overkill. 610 actually flipped they're shooter to match ours as the full court shots hit more of the goal that way. 610 also added a second minicim. We worked with 610, building our shooters with insight from the other team, but neither of us copied each other. we both prototyped our shooters in private, and only saw each others 3 days before bag day.

At that time, we were using a 6" colson, had 3 mini cims, belt drive with a 1:1.3 ratio and plates made of 1/8 aluminium. 610's shooter was a mirrored version of ours, made of polycarb and UHMW, with 1 minicim, and the magical 6" pneumatic tire from McmasterCarr. When i saw that tire, I immediately saw its advantages, and realized we would need to make a new shooter that was wider to accommodate the wheel. Andymark had released the 6" plastic hub at this point (610 made they're own) so we knew what the next version would be.

While 610 bagged they're shooter with the robot, (IIRC, correct me if im wrong) we kept developing. Apart from widening the gap between the plates, using thinner aluminium to save weight, and changing to a 3 plate design for ease of maintenance, the geometry and design of our shooter stayed the same. With the pneumatic tire, we instantly saw a more consistent full court, with more accuracy, and the drop to 2 mini cims didn`t affect our shot speed or rate significantly. Before champs, we tested 9 different backing materials and found one that gave us an amazing grouping. Besides the odd anomaly disk, we were basically able to shoot into a shoe box at the full court distance.

In total we made 3 full shooters, culminating in the shooter we have today, an 85%+ accurate Fullcourt with a 1 second frequency, and a comparable shot rate to 610 up close, about 2 disks per second. We had the same motors, same wheel, same belt system, same gear ratio, same orientation, and the same PID system.

The only difference was hopper and hammer design. 610 had an internal hammer, catching the inside edge of the Frisbee, and a detent piston that stopped premature firing of disks. we had an external hammer, pushing on the outside of the disks, with 3 zip ties as our detent.

Our shooter at waterloo was the setup 610 changed to for champs. (aside from the differences above)

Sorry about the wall of text, but i wanted to clarify that we did not copy 610, and 610 did not copy us, we both ended up at the shooters we have now due to separate development, with similar goals, while learning from the systems each other had.




As far as picking the top 3, (i should do that instead of just derailing the thread) I choose to pick 610, 1334 and 1241. All of us in Ontario know that 1114 and 2056 are going to be the #1 and #2 in Ontario, if not the world, so im ignoring them completely :D
I want to share the love with some other Ontario teams.

610 was the fastest pure cycler in Ontario, 1334 had the fastest climb and dump combo in first (1114 could climb faster, but if you add the time for the dump, 1334 is faster by a second or so at IRI) and 1241 had the most dedicated, practiced drive team, and an amazing coach.


TLDR:

why should i make a summary, either read the post, or move on, your choice.

Peter Matteson 25-07-2013 08:08

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Thanks for all the 177 love among the CT teams.

I agree Cyberknights were the best team in CT this year with their accurate full court shooter.

After that I'm thinking Buzz with their 3+ automode floor pick up and solid cycling. They had everything needed to be dangerous, and not a team you wanted to play.

But I have to say the CT team that everyone is missing that belongs on this list is 2067 Apple Pi. They have been steadily becoming one of the stronger teams in the state over the last few years and deserve to be recognized for it. Take every thing I said about Buzz and Apple Pi was just a half step behind.

mdiradoorian 25-07-2013 11:43

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1284371)
Can't forget 1662!

696 was good for sure, and this was their best season recently; but they're not top 3 in CA, too many good teams. Top 10 for sure though.

I was being a bit bias but that's normal. I do believe that we are in the top ten in the state.

AdamHeard 25-07-2013 11:55

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiradoorian (Post 1284454)
I was being a bit bias but that's normal. I do believe that we are in the top ten in the state.

CA FIRST Top 20 has you guys at #18. Not a bad spot to be though, a lot of solid teams on that list.

mdiradoorian 25-07-2013 12:11

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1284455)
CA FIRST Top 20 has you guys at #18. Not a bad spot to be though, a lot of solid teams on that list.

We are getting better every year, so I expect us to get there sometime soon.

AdamHeard 25-07-2013 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiradoorian (Post 1284456)
We are getting better every year, so I expect us to get there sometime soon.

That's the right attitude to have, keep up the good work.

jamierose 25-07-2013 12:30

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by donkehote (Post 1284410)
Not quite true.

Thanks for clearing everything up. I heard at various points throughout the season things like "1310 has our shooter" from people on my team , so I was under the assumption that we gave our design to 1310 in a similar way to how we borrowed much of 188's design in 2012. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Also, we didn't even have a piston to stop the discs until the championship.
We only had a zip tie that was cut to a very short length. It stuck out a bit from the top of our shooter, and it was enough to do its job. We had to change it every so often, though.

k20002222 25-07-2013 13:46

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I have to say team 3310 definitely should be one of the top bots in Texas. They had a consistent 30 point auto with 5-6 cycles and a 10 point hang. Also Apple Pi has been a great bot the last three years and are in the top 5 for CT.

MA:

125
126
3958

Orion.DeYoe 25-07-2013 13:49

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1284319)
Ohio:

379
2252
128

You decide the order.

Thanks for the mention.
I think 379 is #1 almost without question.
As for us and 128, it's a tough call (and of course I'm biased). 128 has better accuracy all around and was a stellar cycler from day 1.
Our robot had lower accuracy at the regional level but was eventually fixed at champs. Our floor loader gave us an edge as well.
I'm also not sure if 128 ever crossed the six-cycle line (we did at CORI and IRI).

Chris is me 25-07-2013 16:26

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
My evaluation for New York is probably going to be a bit off, seeing as we competed with only a small fraction of New York teams this year. 2791 is excluded from this for obvious reasons, though their robot is related to 229/4124.

1. 20 - Probably the easiest call in this thread, 20 was far and away the most competitive New York team this year. They can't human load, and until IRI they basically only scored from the front of the pyramid, yet 20 knew exactly how to play to their machine's strengths. Even after their two regional wins, they kept improving and adding tricks such as a pyramid shot, front corner shot, and a four-disc autonomous mode.

2. 229 / 4124 - These simple yet effective human-loaded cyclers were not always consistent, but at their peak they were absolutely lethal. 4124 nabbed an early Week 1 regional victory, while 229 very nearly upset the Boston winning alliance in the semi-finals. Both were capable of putting up 60+ points in a match, despite being taller than 30". If it weren't for scorched earth on Curie, I'd be willing to bet 4124 would have been playing on Saturday afternoon at the Championship.

3. 694 - A lot of teams could go here, but 694 put up a lot of points fairly reliably, performing well at both of their regionals.

Honorable mentions: 4134, 3044, 3015, and 250 are all smart, well driven robots that while not always consistent could put up big numbers if you weren't careful. 3044 in particular was adept at switching from offense to defense at the drop of a hat, playing well with what they had in the Archimedes division. 4134 only had one event to get their act together, but they were good for 3+ cycles each match in the CT elims and walked away with a silver medal.

runneals 25-07-2013 19:15

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
That's pretty easy for us... 967, 525, and 3928 (in no particular order) :)

Kernaghan 28-07-2013 01:24

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
2056
1114
1310
All literally incredible, I don't even think an explanation is required (just look at the IRI seeding).

but an honorable mention definitely has to goes out to the world champions!
1241 and 610 built incredible machines.

Also team 1334 built a sweet robot that was always fun to play against :)
(coolest climb to watch also!)

There is definitely going to be some entertaining competition happening in Ontario, in the coming years.

FRCAddict 28-07-2013 02:01

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Hawaii teams!!

359 The Hawaiian Kids 3 disc auto, 10 point, high scoring, overall dependable for the most part except for maybe one or two matches

2504 The Governors 0-3 disc auto, 10 point climb, by far the fastest shooter at the Hawaii Reigional, but did have trouble feeding discs to robot.

2090 Buff n' Blue (Punahou Robotics) 3 disc auto, 10 point climb, good feeder, consistent shots, did break down in the finals match of Hawaii Reigional.

sadly team 368 did not compete this year but i feel they would have been a competitive team as past years have shown

JohnFogarty 28-07-2013 11:37

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HumblePie (Post 1284274)
Thanks for the love, guys. :D

Based on their consistent scoring at SC and GA, I'd have to cast a vote for 1319 Flash in the top 3.

I can't personally make it to SCRIW this year, but Hugo III will be there, hopefully better than ever. I'll be with you guys in spirit :D

I was at both South Carolina and Georgia..competing at one and volunteering at the other. Flash had a large number of matches where their their shooter jammed or they couldn't find the mark on the goal and missed a lot of shots.
Now...I thought Flash had the most potential to be the best bot in SC and contend to to take out 11 or 245, but it never came to fruition.

Like I said 1319 is a honorable mention for 3rd in SC, but I just don't think they beat out 4452.

cadandcookies 29-07-2013 00:17

Re: Top 3 bots in your state: 2013
 
I believe someone has already picked this identical order, but for Minnesota, I would have to say:

2052-- KnightKrawler's machine was magnificent to watch, winning them two regionals plus State Championships and putting them in eliminations at Championships. Far and away the best cycler in Minnesota, they drove their mecanum drive in a way that wasn't just impressive on the field, but was also a joy to watch.

2169-- I think these guys were the best known team in Minnesota this season, thanks to their fast and accurate full court shooting and simple design. Watching them drain almost every disk in a last ditch effort on the Galileo field while everyone else was waiting on Einstein was easily my top moment this season.

2512-- A jack of all trades, I saw 2512 pick up off the floor with their ingenious sorting system, full court shoot, cycle, and climb for ten all season, all on an octocanum. Really fun to watch and effective.

Honorable mentions:
2705 had a unique and effective (if a bit slow) 30-point climb that was one of the only effective ones in Minnesota.

3313 was an excellent cycler with some technical problems-- plus bonus points for their super-simple design and awesome outreach (I mean, they basically put up how to build their robot).

2177 would have been top three if they had been more effective on the field-- their thirty point climb and dunk was brilliantly executed, but just not enough.


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