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I'm pretty concerned that there is only a week left until registration and some dates are still preliminary. Is there anybody hare that has any information on any of them.
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GTR West is going to be at the Crescent School, 610's school!
Has any team ever hosted a regional event before? I'm happy that there's now a regional I can get to just via local public transit. With both GTRE and GTRW back to backs weeks 2 and 1, Toronto teams that don't like to travel will be doing back to back, early regionals. http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...egional-events |
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They do a great job too! According to the event list... Inland Empire Regional is hosted at Grand Terrace High School Central Valley Regional is at Madera South High School, Team 1323 And of course the first ever event in 1992 was at Memorial High School in Manchester, NH. |
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Gotta say, I'm a little confused by Crescent School being the host. Don't get me wrong, 610 is a great team, and will be great hosts, but their facility isn't exactly conducive to the type of environment an FRC event needs.
From what I know of their school, there isn't really an appropriate spot to host a FRC field, complete with enough seating for 30+ teams, plus 30+ 10x10 pits with aisleways nearby. I presume the venue is Crescent's field house, which I understand they had a partial field set up in for practice in 2013 due to space concerns. The building is roughly 40m x 40m judging by the satellite image on Google. Crescents Website says 30,000 ft^2, which doesn't add up. The on-floor footprint of an FRC field plus all of its gear is about 40x70ft = 2800ft^2. Add some buffer for aisles between the field and whatever seating there is, and you get pretty close to NCAA basketball courts at 50x94ft. This is easily seen at Waterloo, where we play on an NCAA-spec Basketball Court. Pits needs another area that size minimum. Then people need somewhere to sit. Crescent school has ~135 parking spaces based on the satellite image on Google. There is no nearby public parking facilities. 30 teams plus event staff? Never mind that the school will presumably still need some of its parking for staff and students not involved in the event, I can't see how enough cars will fit. Certainly, I don't see this event being able to have capacity >28-32 teams, same as Waterloo. This is a problem, as its replacing an event that had 60+ capacity. Yes, Ontario as a whole has gained some capacity this year with the addition of Windsor and North Bay, but its lost about 30% of its former capacity in the Toronto area. Of the 73 Ontario teams registered in 2013, this relocated event at Crescent is geographically the closest to 40 of them. Additionally, almost 44% of Ontario's 73 teams were multiple regional attendees in 2013. I don't see this leaving much room for growth in Ontario in 2014, especially in the Toronto area. This also completely ignoring the ~23 Ontario teams that were lost in 2013 to the Teacher Strike who may return. All in all, cool, I'm excited for an event at Crescent, but if they were axing half of GTRWest's capacity, they should have added a 3rd similarly-sized GTR, perhaps in the Mississauga area (Rick Hansen SS maybe?) |
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Another thing to note: there are only 4 preliminary events now (Razorback, Tech Valley, Long Island, and Pittsburgh), and now the two "Sunday-Monday" events in NEFIRST are now Saturday-Sunday-probably was just a typo on FIRST's part.
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Regardless, I'm not on the planning committee of any of these events nor am I a participant in any capacity with FIRST Canada, including its volunteering group or advisory/director board, so I'd defer to them knowing what to anticipate relative to teams, venues, and how the capacity for the events work together. |
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So 1114 wont be at GTR West. Does anyone know if 2056 will be attending. If they're not than this would make a much more even playing field, Even if they are though, with 1114 not competing it will open up another spot to give an extra team the opportunity to make it to worlds.
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This is similar when compared to Ontario's other super-tiny event, Waterloo. Waterloo has capacity for 30-32 teams, but is currently showing much less open capacity. In 2013, when we had the teacher's strike swallow a bunch of public school board teams, and stifle public school board rookies, we had about 24 rookies, and lost about 25 teams to the strike. Based on my predictions, I believe Ontario will see 70ish of its 2013 teams return, plus about 20 of the 2012 vets that were lost to the teachers strike, plus about 35-40 new rookies (assuming we keep steady growth, and the public school board rookies start coming again.) That's about 130 teams by my count. In 2013, 30% of Ontario teams went to 2 regionals, and 13.5% went to 3. If that split stays consistent and my predictions for growth are correct, that means that Ontario needs capacity for about 205 teams at events. That's a whole event more than we're showing right now. |
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For example, Los Angeles is listed as a 55-team event. Last year's event capacity was 65 teams, at the same venue--and I'll vouch that room is plentiful in there even with 65 teams. That means that there are 10 slots not available; it's reasonable to assume that they're being held back for rookie teams. |
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Thank you for your thoughts. I believe the document below will address all of your concerns and questions. We are hard at work to produce the best regional we possibly can, taking into consideration all of the concerns that have been brought up by FIRST and yourself. Crescent School's FRC Regional: GTR West Information http://team610.com/wordpress/wp-cont...nformation.pdf Thank You, |
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Very curious how it works out. I wager it's highly dependant on quality of video and camera angle. |
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Should be interesting.
Provided that they can keep HD quality streaming across their school's network on a properly set up wide-angle lens? Should be OK. *Some* of the regional streams were good enough last year over the internet that scouting would have been possible. GKC, GTREast, and MICMP come to mind. |
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I have "tele-scouted" from afar in previous years. Text messaging was helpful, though you don't have a good feel for how relevant the info you are giving is. Make sure the angle is wide enough to pick up the Human Players if it is a Human Player important game (like 2009 or 2011). |
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