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(And a Mexico City Regional!?!?!??!?! Awesome) List is in weekly breakdown format below |
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Frank,
I got 3 boxes of macnut chocolates waiting for you at the 2014 Championships! Or if you plan to come to the Hawaii regional, I'll have them ready for you there.:) For our team, Northern Lights/Lake Superior Week 2. Pretty happy about that. *snowboarding* Dallas Week 3. Looking very much a possibility given that Hawaii-Dallas airfares are relatively cheaper on AA than other areas. We love those Texas teams. ;) |
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Pacific Northwest district? Interesting. Seems like it's only Oregon + Washington, though I wouldn't think there is enough team density in those areas to get a district to themselves.
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This is a great thing. I just hope Michigan gets finalized soon.
AND THE GREAT LAKES REGIONAL IS BACK!! |
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Thank you Frank.
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Well allright! I can start planning my tour much earlier!
95 events! YIKES:eek: !!! Fantasy FIRST is getting more and more busy every year! |
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Week 1 (2/27-3/1)
Alamo Regional sponsored by Rackspace Hosting 2 TBA Michigan districts(2/28-3/1) 2 TBA MAR Districts(Mt. Olive and Hatboro I believe) NE District @ Nashua South HS PNW District @ Auburn Mountainview HS Week 1.5 (3/2-3/4) Israel Regional Week 2 (3/6-3/8) GTR East San Diego Regional Crossroads Regional Northern Lights Regional Lake Superior Regional Central Valley Regional(3/7-3/9) 2 TBA Michigan Districts (3/7-3/8) NE District @ UNH-Durham NE DIstrict @ Fitch HS in Groton, CT (3/8-3/9) PNW District @ Oregon City HS PNW District @ Glacier Peak HS Week 3 (3/13-3/15) Mexico City Regional Orlando Regional St. Louis Regional North Carolina Regional Dallas Regional Utah Regional 2 TBA MI Districts (3/14-3/15) 2 TBA MAR Districts (Clifton and Springside-Chestnut Hill) PNW District @ Mount Vernon HS TBA PNW District (in Cheneyt, WA) NE District @ WPI Week 4 (3/20-3/22) Waterloo Regional Los Angeles Regional sponsored by The Rodenberry Foundation Boilermaker Regional Buckeye Regional Virginia Regional 2 TBA MI Districts (3/21-3/22) MAR District(Lenape Seneca) PNW District @ Wilsonville HS PNW District @ Shorewood HS NE District @ Bryant University (Smithfield, RI) NE District @ Southington HS Week 5 (3/27-2/29) Finger Lakes Regional Queen City Regional Oklahoma Regional Smoky Mountains Regional 2 TBA MI Districts (3/28-3/29) MAR District (Bridgewater) PNW District @ Auburn HS PNW District @ Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA) NE District @ Northeastern University NE District @ Hartford Public HS Week 6(4/3-4/5) Calgary Regional Silicon Valley Regional Colorado Regional South Florida Regional Midwest Regional Bayou Regional Lone Star Regional TBA MI District(4/4-4/5) TBA PNW District (in Corvallis, OR) NE District @ Lewiston Colisee (in Lewiston, ME) Week 7(4/10-4/12) NE District Championship @ Boston University Michigan State Championship PNW District Championship @ Veterans Memorial Coliseum MAR Championship Preliminary events: GTR West North Bay Regional Great Lakes Regional (in Windsor, Ontario) Festival de Robotique FRC a Montreal Regional Razorback Reigonal Phoenix Regional Sacramento Regional Inland Empire REgional Washington DC Regional Peachtree Regional Hawaii Regional Southern Illinois Regional Chesapeake Regional Minnesota North Star Regional Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional Greater Kansas City Regional Las Vegas Regional SBPLI Long Island Regional NYC Regional FIRST Tech Valley Regional Pittsburgh Regional Palmetto Regional Hub City Regional Wisconsin Regional New regionals are bolded, excluding new district events, which are all listed as preliminary on the FIRST website |
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Didn't expect to have 2 district events in the city Auburn though.
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The only problem I see with PNW districts is that because of the 150 mile gap between Seattle and Portland, is that at both portland districts there is a potential for the same teams to be at each one of those districts, plus or minus the Corvallis teams. I hope there is a good amount of teams that intermix between the 2 areas to make the events more exciting. Otherwise the PNW dates look really good, and I'm excited.
Also even if I took away my bias from living in portland im glad the championship is here. Ive been to many of the venues that have held NW events over the years, and i've always felt the Coliseum was a better venue in terms of both seating and pit locations and mappings. |
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From an administrative point of view I can not possibly express how happy this makes me.
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-Brando |
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I cannot express how happy I am! Mexico City Regional!
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5 Ontario regionals, 7 Canadian regionals.
FIRST Robotics Canada is hosting 7 regionals in 6 weeks. This marks the first time that more than one event will be happening at the same time (exluding double regionals). This looks like practice for districts, since typically the volunteer base of these events are similar. COOL! (Cheif Delphi on my vacation, that's a first. I may have a slight problem...) |
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With my week 4 open I may have to go to Waterloo instead (I traveled through there on the way to Chicago. It didn't seem very far away at all). |
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Everyone has said it a million times already, but a huge shout out to Frank & FIRST for doing an awesome job at releasing information like this as they know it. It's never too early to help teams plan their upcoming season.
Hmm... Crossroads > St. Louis > Boilermaker > Southern Illinois Mystery Regional. Midwest Robot Tour 2014. |
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Oh. I get it. There aren't any. Yet. :o |
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This is great! Can't wait to see competition grow this year after 3 times as many games per event!
PNW will many more tough teams from now on. 1983 won't be alone in the top rankings at World! |
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Good to see that out-of-normal-area teams can opt into the district system. I think you're thinking of the Dakotas, which have few teams (as opposed to a few teams). |
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I say the most interesting event is going to be the FIRST TECH VALLEY its a mini CMP. You got the best from the Palmetto, Wisconsin, Pittsburgh, and Hub city. its the battle of the cardinal directions
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't anybody else suprised that there are only 2 districts in Massachusetts. Seriously. That ratio of teams to districts in New Hampshire and Conneticut is ~14.5, but in Massachusetts it's 27 (I'm pulling these numbers off the top of my head, so they may be slightly off).There is just no way that this is going to pan out equally. Even assuming that there are no out of state teams coming into Massachusetts, there are no rookie teams, and each event holds a full 40 teams, over half of all Massachusetts teams will be forced out of state.
But anyways, I can't wait for the Northeastern University. And as always, Frank is an amazing person. |
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Everyone here in North Bay is very excited for our new Regional.
We're still in the dark about a specific date, so we'll have to wait for the official release in September. |
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Does anyone have any insight on if the Southern Illinois Regional will be in Edwardsville or Carbondale? I know SIUE hosts botball but thats not excatly an indicator or pre-req. to hosting an FRC regional.
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But seriously, TVR is shaping up to be a competitive event if everyone comes that has said they might. I, for one, am rather excited. We'll finally have a regional less than three hours away! |
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The official breakdown of teams from 2013 is 57 in MA (33 of which are w/in 25mi of Boston - which for a state that is over 150mi wide, thats a pretty heavy concentration) 45 CT 29 NH 14 ME 6 RI 3 VT For Reference the WPI event is 46 miles from Northeastern. Nashua is 48 miles, and Bryant (RI) is 52mi. WPI to Hartford is 64mi. WPI to Southington is 82mi. You can see that "being forced out of state" is really not a significant difference in travel. Plus with the number of MA teams that traveled to other events like BAE or Pine Tree or CT, I don't think having teams that want to go out of state for events will be that much of an issue. And the other thing you need to take into account when you look at where the events are is potential host locations, and potential committees. Trust me, most teams would rather have a well run district event in a good venue that might take an extra 30min to drive to than a really poorly run event in a bad venue that might be 30min closer. Plus with the District Championship in Boston, I would think MA teams could hardly complain... :) If you guys want to volunteer to staff a committee to run another Boston area District event & have a good venue available, I'm sure people would be all ears for 2015 :D. |
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Really, really excited for the UNH/Durham district event! :] |
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Am I reading the Sunday-Monday Hartford and Southington districts correctly? It seems like an odd time span.
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While I do appreciate that the "leave Sundays available!" voice was heard - as there are three events scheduled away from Sundays - I am a little disappointed that there are only 3 of 9 New England district not on Sundays. Fortunately for 1519, two of them are the closest events to us. I'm guessing there are other teams in New England that would at the very least prefer not to compete on Sundays for either religious or personal/practical reasons (being wiped out to start the work/school-week)... unfortunately for them the only events closest to them involve a Sunday. With there being 4 different "schedules" for district events in New England (1 Thursday-Friday, 2 Friday-Saturday, 4 Saturday-Sunday, and 2 Sunday-Monday), do you think webcast viewership will be affected? My Saturdays afternoons (if not at a meeting) in March and April are usually spent in front of a bunch of webcasts. With elimination matches being spread across as many as 3 or 4 days each weekend, may average webcast viewership suffer? I don't mean anything like "no one will be watching webcasts!" but I'm pretty sure I'll be less likely to see as many webcasts if fewer are happening simultaneously. Thoughts? |
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I am interested in the Orlando Regional date, every time i have attended the event it has been during UCF spring break. I wonder why there has been a change
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@Gregor:
2014 will also mark the first year that FIRST has added >1 event in Canada. 2002 - Canadian Regional 2005 - add Waterloo Regional / rename Canadian Regional to Greater Toronto Regional 2011 - add GTR East colocated with GTRWest, rename GTR to GTRWest (also, 04/06 GTRs were dual field regionals) 2012 - move GTREast to Oshawa, add Montreal 2013 - add Calgary 2014 - add Windsor and North Bay. |
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In regards to the shift to Saturday-Sunday, with the shift to districts, it's kind of an inevitability, as it's much easier to have events at a HS without having to worry about interfering with the Friday school day(all that directly coincides with it is setup for the field, so all the school really has to do is just move gym classes/restrict parking). And in regards to webcast viewership, personally, I find it much easier to pay attention to more elimination matches, mainly the Sunday afternoon ones, as it's less events overall and easier to pay attention than "ten regionals on one screen"(as well as being able to get other work, ie. homework, especially if your team is meeting all day saturday) |
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Awesome! Glad to see this is released so early. Once again thanks to Frank and the FRC Teams staff for getting it right and doing it for us!
I'm very happy with the schedule in New England, for various reasons. Thanks to all our friends over at ingenuityNE for making it happen! It's looking to be a good competition season. Can't wait! :D |
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Related topic: I notice on the FRC calendar, January 4 is listed as Kickoff, but there is no Ship/BnT Day. Huh. *some say anything south of I-80 is Southern Illinois |
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Regarding the Saturday-Sunday events, I am really not liking them, considering my team's situation. We are a Catholic school, so there will be moral conflicts with events and a big red flag will be raised with the school administration (I doubt they will stop us from going, but I don't think they will be very happy, and I understand why). Also, students at our school get a lot of homework, and the 3rd quarter ends around this time for us, so its going to be a nightmare to try and get homework done (especially for the people who have to help load in on Friday night, are drivers and need plenty of rest on both nights, and/or are going to be creating a picklist on Saturday night). Well, I guess sometimes life gives you lemons. Time to make lemonade. |
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Speaking of which (in a very round-about way), do the District teams (specifically the NE district) get to go in the night before to unpack/get inspected? Or is first morning a mad house adventure? How are the existing districts schedules set up, and what can we look forward to? |
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If it is held in Champaign, there's always the Black Dog Smoke & Ale House. Yum! |
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Thanks DevenStonow. I figured there had to be some practice time. I guess we have to plan on being there the evening/night before, but at leave after school ends for the day to make the school happy. Which is okay; most of the locations are within an hour, and, except for Lewiston, within two hours. Doesn't make the choices any easier.
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same for Teams from Bangor and points Downeast in Maine.....
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To clarify some earlier discussion in this thread - today's blog confirms that no teams located outside of a district will be able to "opt-in" to any district. Not unexpected, but this clears up some of the confusion with the PNW region.
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I'm excited to see the first (I think it's the first) mention of inter-district play for 2015. That is something we are all looking forward to! |
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I understand where FIRST is coming from, but I especially feel bad for our close friends in Idaho. I hope that FIRST is able to come up with a solution to district borders soon, seeing how restrictive it is becoming. On a less discouraging note, I am super excited to see several new events pop up in close proximity to my house! It's astounding to think how fast Washington (and Oregon) have grown! |
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This is a devil's advocate post not a literal gripe post. |
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The Idaho/Montana/etc teams would feel the same way if they heard similar rumors about the Mid-Atlantic and New England districts. |
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We have had a great time playing with the PNW teams over the last 6 years and look forward to the opportunity to do it again soon.
Of the teams in the mountain west - those close to Boise don't seem to be as challenged by the district boundary rules as 2130 and 4334. Personally think that it should be possible to develop and publish a hardship criteria based on travel distance/cost (in the short term) that would allow teams to compete within a district that are outside of the boundary. For now, it looks likely we will be revisiting friends in California or making new ones in Nevada or Colorado. |
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* Just 2 years ago districts were seen as an awful horrible fate to be avoided at all costs. Now see where we are... |
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My comment on the webcast viewership had little to do with there being Saturday-Sunday events... having the elims nationwide spread out over two days is actually kind of nice. I more meant the fact that - at least in New England - we now have Thursday-Friday and Sunday-Monday events! It seems to me that having three or four different days that elims are on starts getting too spread out... |
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On the other hand... what about the ability to get both of your districts in on the same weekend, if there's a Thursday-Friday and a Sunday-Monday both within range of you? Or is that just too much?
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It looks like Sunday-Monday was a typo. Those 2 district events have been changed to be Saturday-Sunday events. I think 2 districts in a weekend might be a little much but I'd give it a shot though!
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I suppose it's feasible, but it definitely seems like it'd come at some costs... not the least of which being how tired you'd be on Monday morning! :-) |
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I'm really liking how theres now 7 (i think) regionals within a not completely stupid driving distance for me.
North Bay: 238km, 2:29 travel time Oshawa: 70km, 1:04 travel time Mississauga: 130km, 1:32 travel time Waterloo: 201km, 2:11 travel time Montreal: 556km, 5:37 travel time Windsor: 455km, 4:30 travel time Rochester: 383km, 3:50 travel time. Cleveland clocks in around the same as Montreal, and Pittsburgh is 6:01 travel time, too. |
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So after looking at the schedule a dozen times, it just clicked in my brain that the Peachtree regional has moved from the Gwinnett Center in Duluth to the Georgia World Congress Center in Atlanta. Also the new home of GRITS. Next stop, the Georgia Dome baby.
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Concerning the teams in ID joining the PNW district from what I understand ID was originally intended to be part of the PNW district. However it didn't make sense for the southern ID teams to join and the northern ID teams were asked if they wanted to be part of the district some time ago. I guess that there were not enough of them that said they wanted to join or FIRST wanted to stick to state boundaries for districts.
I am quite sad that we won't be seeing some of our friends from ID or MT unless it is at CMP. |
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Or it could be as I also postulated that not enough of the N ID teams wanted to become part of the PNW district. The S ID teams did not traditionally play frequently at the regionals that the PNW district is replacing while N ID teams did. I know from some of the N ID team mentors that I talked to after they had been given the option during early discussions they had mixed feelings about joining the district. It also just could be due to the projected growth of teams in WA and OR. We are shooting for about 125-130 teams for WA alone this year. The OR legislature just approved multi-year funding for FRC team grants similar to what we have had in WA for a few years now, so their growth rate could increase dramatically in the coming years. |
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Still no date or location listed. |
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I'm assuming that Preliminary means they haven't set the date, right?
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The fact that 2122 has entered 6 OR/WA events out of 8 years in our team's existence and 1569 from Pocatello ID 6 events/9 years; and 1891 from Meridian ID,5 events/8 years tends to support the idea that teams from across ID have been regular participants in FRC events in Oregon and Washington, a history that, sadly, has come to a close. We will miss competing with our friends in Oregon and Washington and look forward to meeting new friends farther from home...Vegas anyone? |
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- Sunny G. |
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I should have said since the Utah regional teams from S ID haven't been playing at the regionals that the PNW district with a couple of exceptions. Your team 2122 and 4106 are the only S ID teams that have recently played in a PNW regional and in both cases that was for 1/2 of the events attended. 3251 a team in the middle or the state played in a PNW regional in 2011 but not in 2010, 2012, and 2013. 1891 and 1569 haven't competed in an OR or WA event since 2009, neither have 1566 and 2594. 3562, 4086, 4175, 4178 have never played in a PNW regional. The Panhandle teams 2130, 3145, 3315, 3513, 4520 have only played in PNW regionals in recent years. Which is why they were asked if they wanted to join the PNW district in 2012 and were invited to attend the PNW district information webinar in May 2013, and a mentor from at least one team did participate. It is unfortunate that we won't be seeing the teams from ID in our area anymore, but lines have to be drawn somewhere, but nothing says they can't be redrawn in the future, and hopefully interdistrict play will be a reality for the 2015 season. |
For the North Idaho teams, is the Calgary Regional still within driving distance?
The Calgary area teams are in a bit of an island too with the PNW going district, but they at least have a Regional event to call their own! Is there a contact in N ID who we can reach out to? The earlier the better, because things like passports need a fair bit of lead time... |
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The other big hurdle could be getting the school district to approve an out of country field trip, sometimes it is hard enough to get them to approve an out of state trip. I have to wonder if FIRST really looked at the hardship excluding the N ID (and W MT) teams from the PNW district would create. http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-o... h_teams_form |
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Wondering if Bilfred has seen this....
http://www.visitmyrtlebeach.com/incl...temap/sitemap/ Its not on the First site yet. So it seems that it will be in Myrtle Beach again. Nice venue, but hope the Team Social will be better than this years was. |
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We are just waiting on an OK on the final contract then we can announce Inland Empire. So close...
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Greater Kansas City showed up today as week 3 (March 13-15) which places it at the same time as St. Louis for the 2nd year in a row. Venue is TBD which may mean that we are considering an arena other than Hale. Wonder what that means for the size of the tournament if there is a change? |
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New locations (and dates) posted for the Chesapeake & DC Regionals.
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DC Regional is now the "Greater DC Regional" Week 5 (Mar 27-29) Patriot Center (10,000 seat basketball arena) George Mason University, Fairfax, VA Chesapeake Regional Week 6 (Apr 3-5) Comcast Center (18,000 seat basketball arena) University of Maryland, College Park, MD The size of these events should compare well with the Virginia Regional (the Siegel Center is an 8,000 seat basketball arena). It will be disappointing not to play a stone's throw from DC's Chinatown or Baltimore's Inner Harbor-- maybe I'll have to make some side trips during practice rounds! |
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I know my students were disappointed about the inner harbor but DC moving it to GMU puts that event even closer to our back yard. Now to wait on one more "localish" regional to get finalized before we start making serious schedule decisions.
Pesonally I was hoping one of the DMV events was going to be "early" but with these two being finalized its time for plan B. |
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Bummer about the conflict with St. Louis. However, there were many teams that were going to be on spring break during week 4. As a coach, it is a very awkward position to have to ask students to choose between robotics and family vacation. Our team wasn't going to be able to go to the KC Regional this year, but with the move, now we can. |
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Loved Hale, but am also looking forward to the new space at the BTC. I heard that it was bigger than Hale and should be able to still accommodate the large number of teams we are used to seeing in KC. PS. The KC regional wouldn't be the same without 1939. Glad the date change allows you to come. |
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Yes indeed, the exhibit hall at MCC BTC is less expensive than Hale. It's also larger compared to the spaces FIRST used in the past at Hale, and cleaner. It has ample room for 64+ pits, the main field, plus a practice field (or two). Tons of free parking. Easy access. Here's a good, albeit older, article about the space:
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Does anyone have any idea when GTR West will have a definitive date and location? Registration is merely 10 days away and there is still nothing posted :confused:
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In just one week the insanity of FRC event registration begins for the 2014 season.
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