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Mark McLeod 25-09-2013 09:52

Registration 2014
 
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Registration numbers might be increasingly difficult to track this year now that FIRST is up to four distinct district systems.

Assuming team growth doesn't force the last minute addition of more district events like we've seen some years, we now have close to 100 regular season competition events:

54 Regional events
37 District events
4 District Championships
1 World Championship
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96 events

Nearly 25% more events this year than last year.
That's more events than there were teams for the first five years of FRC's existence.

More than 40% of FRC events are now under the district system.

rsisk 25-09-2013 11:08

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The 2014 season has officially begun:)

Thanks Mark, this thread is always awesome

MARS_James 25-09-2013 13:09

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So how many teams from each district move on to Championship?

To my knowledge (and the minimal research I have done.) it is:
27 from Michigan
14 from MAR
30 from NE
24 from PNW

So this means for Championship we have 95 District Slots, 324 Regional Slots, 18 Hall of Fame Slots, And the 4 Slots from last years Championship. So if they don't let teams sustaining from 1992 on (Though I am sure they will) we have 441 Championship slots correct?

PayneTrain 25-09-2013 14:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1292961)
So how many teams from each district move on to Championship?

To my knowledge (and the minimal research I have done.) it is:
27 from Michigan
14 from MAR
30 from NE
24 from PNW

So this means for Championship we have 95 District Slots, 324 Regional Slots, 18 Hall of Fame Slots, And the 4 Slots from last years Championship. So if they don't let teams sustaining from 1992 on (Though I am sure they will) we have 441 Championship slots correct?

If you want to go through the personal pain of perusing some of my posts from last year, this was a problem where I believe there were ~425 CMP slots. However by the end of it all they were still calling in waitlisted teams the week of CMP and ended up having ~50 waitlisted teams. I hope and expect they imagine a certain number of slots to "disappear" like they did with the Wild Card last year, or they might move to a system where Wild Cards are not given bids automatically but are instead put on a waitlist.

Edit: referencing a blog post from the director, 85% of all offered slots were filled by teams that accepted them for CMP. If this held or increased up to 90%, you would still have fewer than 400 teams in the event on a non-waitlist bid.

Koko Ed 25-09-2013 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1292961)
So this means for Championship we have 95 District Slots, 324 Regional Slots, 18 Hall of Fame Slots, And the 4 Slots from last years Championship. So if they don't let teams sustaining from 1992 on (Though I am sure they will) we have 441 Championship slots correct?

Some teams can't afford to go to the championships even if they are a dominant competitor. It costs alot to go to St. Louis as a team.

MechEng83 25-09-2013 14:47

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I thought district bids were based on percentage of teams in the district relative to the total number of teams, multiplied by the number of championship slots -- meaning michigan might have more or less than 27 slots.

I'm not sure how this works out, because if they "plan" on a 400 team championship, it's possible that districts could get fewer bids, as there would only be 76 "other" slots.

Racer26 26-09-2013 09:46

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Reasons CMP needs more capacity than 400.

Also: CMP only having 8 matches per team was a big point of contention in 2013.

There's really only a few ways to get more capacity AND more matches/team.

Make the event longer. This is a bad idea for lots of reasons, mostly cost and burnout related.

Make the matches shorter. Again, a bad idea. The matches are short enough as it is.

Reduce field reset time. Not sure how much room for improvement there truly is here. Even with 2013's huge numbers of game pieces, field reset crews were pretty efficient.

Those three are the only way to achieve more matches/team and more teams, without adding more fields. The truth is, there is no option to achieve this (especially at the rate FIRST is growing now) without adding more fields to CMP. There's two options for how to do that.

Adding more divisions. Going to 6 or 8 divisions adds time to Einstein, which is already much longer than it should be. BUT, doing this might make Einstein feel less tedious. The downside is that you need 50-100% MORE volunteers than CMP already needs. Additionally, the space required for the fields to run 8 separate divisions starts to get really hard to find, and noise pollution from adjacent fields could be a problem as well.

Making the divisions run two fields, a la 2004/2006 Greater Toronto Regionals. Same number of fields as 8 divisions, but needs far fewer volunteers, especially if its done smart. Also, solves the noise pollution and space problems. The two fields can be placed much closer together than if they were separate divisions. With the new 2015 control system coming down the pipe, it would be comparatively easy for FIRST to set up the scorpion boxes to talk to two sets of field hardware as a single division. Achieves nearly double the match throughput of a single field.

I had calculated it out not long ago, IIRC, doublefield divisions would allow 140 teams per division to have 12 matches without increasing the length of CMP at all.

On another note:

I'm rather concerned about Ontario's capacity, especially in the Toronto area. Of the 73 2013 veteran teams, the relocated and downsized GTRWest is geographically the closest event to 40 of them. It only has a 30 team capacity. This completely ignoring the 20 or so 2012 veterans lost to teacher action in 2013 who will be returning (many of them from the Toronto area), and whatever new rookies come for 2014.

My prediction is that Ontario is approximately a whole 30-40 team event (ideally located in Mississauga, ironically) short on capacity.

Mark McLeod 26-09-2013 12:05

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725 teams registered during the first five minutes.
Past 1000 teams in 28 minutes.

Wetzel 26-09-2013 12:09

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Another capacity crunch will be in the DC area, as the DC and Chesapeake regionals both move to new venues with smaller capacities and the area continues to gain FRC teams. I'm hopeful that we might be able to get a second event for some of the DC teams because of district teams first regional registration being pushed back to third regionals for non-district teams.

Does anyone else not see the specific teams that are registered for an event? I see quantity of teams, but when I click on "See The Teams Registered for this Event" is doesn't list the teams.

Wetzel

ebmonon36 26-09-2013 12:11

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The servers seem to be holding up much better than last year.

Taylor 26-09-2013 12:15

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I'm very impressed with the speed in which I was able to register.
Looks like the Boilermaker Regional only has five spots left (with the 10-team buffer) fifteen minutes in.

Joe G. 26-09-2013 12:17

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WPI filled up in under ten minutes.

Billfred 26-09-2013 12:25

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4901 was in and out in maybe three minutes. South Florida, here we come!

Mr MOE 26-09-2013 12:25

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Thank you FIRST for enabling teams to register so quickly and cleanly this year. This was the best first FIRST event registration from ease and speed that I recall for a long time.

Kudos!

Racer26 26-09-2013 12:28

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Interesting tidbit: several of the Ontario teams from 2012 that disappeared in 2013 are back already. 4250, 1246, 188, 886.

MARS_James 26-09-2013 12:29

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Looks like 4900 is the lowest rookie number and it is to Magic Island from Brazil

Racer26 26-09-2013 12:30

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Also: Its pretty apparent that the vets are favouring the GTRWest and Waterloo events due to their popularity and small capacity. GTREast, North Bay, and Windsor are all showing very few teams (other than rookies from the Windsor area)

ehochstein 26-09-2013 12:31

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Team 10 has returned to Minnesota.

Mark McLeod 26-09-2013 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wetzel (Post 1293157)
Does anyone else not see the specific teams that are registered for an event? I see quantity of teams, but when I click on "See The Teams Registered for this Event" is doesn't list the teams.

I can see the team lists, but I'm probably not using the same entry as you are.

Racer26 26-09-2013 12:35

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Whoa. 746. A new 2002 rookie with no history pre-2014 at GTRWest. A resurrection to be sure. Anybody know what their old number was?

Nevermind. Not a resurrection. A new second team at the same school as 886. I believe this may be the first double team school in Canada, joining the ranks of 494/70, 216/244/288 from MI.

Wetzel 26-09-2013 12:40

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Found the team lists.

First UAE team headed to Chesapeake.
Al Ain, AZ United Arab Emirates Manor Hall International School 4928

Racer26 26-09-2013 12:43

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Interesting. Montreal is full with only 6 rookies. and 3360 may have created a situation for themselves where they can't even go to their home regional.

Also interesting? What's happening with the team names of the various Ontario teams restructured as community teams last year. Some, like 1114, have dropped their 2013 name and reverted back to their 2012 and prior styling, while others, like 1241, have kept the 2013 style, and still others, like 1334, have added their school name back in, but kept their 2013 name as well.

Joe G. 26-09-2013 12:57

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Is there an easy way to view the list of all registered teams, rather than sorting by regional or area? The old "What teams are in my area?" used to let me do that, but with the redesign it isn't giving that option anymore.

Mark McLeod 26-09-2013 12:58

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Use the old one: What Events And Teams Are In My Area?

Joe G. 26-09-2013 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1293181)

Perfect! Didn't realize that was still online. Thanks Mark!

PayneTrain 26-09-2013 13:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe G. (Post 1293180)
Is there an easy way to view the list of all registered teams, rather than sorting by regional or area? The old "What teams are in my area?" used to let me do that, but with the redesign it isn't giving that option anymore.

AFAIK, just about anything from the old stuff can be reached through frclinks, with an exception being team landing pages. However sometimes it will flip over to the new system so your mileage may vary.

Akash Rastogi 26-09-2013 13:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1293172)
Whoa. 746. A new 2002 rookie with no history pre-2014 at GTRWest. A resurrection to be sure. Anybody know what their old number was?

Nevermind. Not a resurrection. A new second team at the same school as 886. I believe this may be the first double team school in Canada, joining the ranks of 494/70, 216/244/288 from MI.

11/193 from Flanders, NJ since 2013, and newest is 223/265 from Lakeland HS in NJ which is newly registered.

ice.berg 26-09-2013 13:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiifi (Post 1293168)
Team 10 has returned to Minnesota.

I noticed this as well, cool to see some teams being revived!

Team 2512 is now registered for Northern Lights Regional!

On a side note.....

MORE OF YOU SHOULD COME TO MINNESOTA!

M. Mellott 26-09-2013 14:14

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Rookie Team 4975 from Turkey will be attending the new NY Tech Valley Regional--very interesting!!

dodar 26-09-2013 14:15

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Is there a 5000s team yet?

Joe G. 26-09-2013 14:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1293198)
Is there a 5000s team yet?

Not yet but we're getting close. Highest right now is 4988 from Cedarville, MI

Koko Ed 26-09-2013 14:23

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Hey 368 is back!

waialua359 26-09-2013 14:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr MOE (Post 1293163)
Thank you FIRST for enabling teams to register so quickly and cleanly this year. This was the best first FIRST event registration from ease and speed that I recall for a long time.

Kudos!

Yes!
It made my 6am get ready for work time a whole lot less stressing.

Akash Rastogi 26-09-2013 15:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1293200)
Hey 368 is back!

Great to see this strong team back for FRC!

Boe 26-09-2013 15:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1293198)
Is there a 5000s team yet?

Just hit 5000th team from Hingham, MA USA.

Gary Dillard 26-09-2013 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr MOE (Post 1293163)
Thank you FIRST for enabling teams to register so quickly and cleanly this year. This was the best first FIRST event registration from ease and speed that I recall for a long time.

Kudos!

I echo that. I was able to register by iPhone in about 2 minutes, while boarding a plane in Atlanta. When I realized I had a 12:21 flight, I wasn't sure I was going to get it done until I got home.

Christopher149 26-09-2013 15:54

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Ooh, 4995 is a new team. They're living in Paradise, Michigan

Also glad to see the Harris team - the UP is getting some really rural teams this year.

<rant>
And I will get 857 registered just as soon as people reply to my emails!!!!
</rant>

Kims Robot 26-09-2013 15:56

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New England Signups

Registered/Open
Granite State: 25/5
UNH: 16/14
Groton: 13/17
WPI: 31/0
RI: 1/29
Southington: 12/18
Northeastern: 19/11
Hartford: 8/22
Pine Tree: 1/29

Which would suggest that 126 FRC NE teams have already registered. I believe last year there were 147, and I think this year's projection was around 160, so that would suggest that ~34 teams have yet to register, but that almost 79% of New England teams have already registered for their first event!

Jscout11 26-09-2013 16:27

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MAR Events:

Mount Olive: 22/13
Hatboro-Horsham: 21/14
Springside-Chestnut Hill: 7/24
Clifton: 3/32
Lenape-Seneca: 8/27
Bridgewater-Raritan 13/24

Total MAR teams registered: 74 (68% of teams in 2013)

Also, it's worth noting that right now that the FIRST site shows two new Mar Teams so far:
4954 Palindrome Robotics Clubfrom Delaware
265 Moderate Heat (223's JV Team)

bduddy 26-09-2013 16:36

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3 new teams so far in Silicon Valley: 4973 in San Francisco and 4904 and 4990, both from Hillsborough. Capuchino High School in San Bruno has a new team entered in the Cal Games, so I assume they'd be going to SVR as well.

1986titans 26-09-2013 16:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1293220)
Ooh, 4995 is a new team. They're living in Paradise, Michigan

Hey, I was up there this summer!

We've officially crossed 5000 with Quantum Robotics.

Combing through the 200+ new teams, there's already 4 new teams in the KC area (all on MO side), 6 unidentified in MO, and 1 unidentified in KS (might be in Manhattan, just got email that some KSU students are trying to start a team here again). Neat to see so much growth.

Gregor 26-09-2013 17:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1293212)
Great to see this strong team back for FRC!

188's back too!

Mr. Lim 26-09-2013 17:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1293172)
Whoa. 746. A new 2002 rookie with no history pre-2014 at GTRWest. A resurrection to be sure. Anybody know what their old number was?

Nevermind. Not a resurrection. A new second team at the same school as 886. I believe this may be the first double team school in Canada, joining the ranks of 494/70, 216/244/288 from MI.

I believe both Emery CI and RH King in Toronto have fielded separate male and female teams in the past, thus having 2 FRC teams from the same school.

MARS_James 26-09-2013 17:42

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So as of right now we have 1369 of last years 2524 teams registered.

In Florida we have 35 of last years 64 veterans registered so I am guessing some areas have gaps like ours

Walter Deitzler 26-09-2013 17:53

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3397 is signed up for STL regional (got one of the last 2 slots, we missed the fact that registration was today.)

On that note, many strong teams are missing, it seems. 1985, 1094, 1288, 1208,931 are missing.

Some are at Central Illinois regional, but will hopefully come to St. Louis as a second regional.

I am also excited to see THRUST joining us, as well as the other out of state teams.

This is gonna be awesome.

waialua359 26-09-2013 17:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1293212)
Great to see this strong team back for FRC!

Yes! Batman is Back!

-Robin

dodar 26-09-2013 18:03

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Right now, Orlando is 34%(14/41) Non-Floridians. I do believe there is also 5 teams from Brazil registered too.

jeser#1772 26-09-2013 18:08

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We were in Orlando last year, now we are going with some friends! :p

AlexD744 26-09-2013 20:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeser#1772 (Post 1293247)
We were in Orlando last year, now we are going with some friends! :p

And it'll be great to have you back :) Glad to see your friends too, I love international events!

sanddrag 27-09-2013 01:12

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Is there any web page that shows all the regional capacities like FIRST used to have years ago before they did the big website upgrade? Especially with the increased number of events, this is really needed.

waialua359 27-09-2013 03:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1293294)
Is there any web page that shows all the regional capacities like FIRST used to have years ago before they did the big website upgrade? Especially with the increased number of events, this is really needed.

I really miss that also and we were just talking about it today at work.
It even changed color as the regional event neared full capacity.

Mark McLeod 27-09-2013 06:57

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Past 1600 registered teams at 9am ET this morning.
Rookies:
  • 118 rookie teams (not including new teams assigned veteran numbers)
  • (1) The UAE team 4928 has registered
  • (2) from Brazil
  • (2) from Chile
  • (1) Mexico
  • (2) Turkey
  • (27) Canada
  • (83) USA
I miss those old displays too.

Initial capacity (winners of the popularity or overcrowded contest) has been reached at:
  • St. Louis Regional
  • Waterloo Regional
  • Montreal Regional
  • Arizona Regional (+5 more - there was some funny business at the start registration for this one)
  • Boilermaker Regional
  • WPI District (+1 more)
6 more Regionals and 2 Districts are in the single digits, as of this morning.

Here's the initial published event capacity.
Add 5 or 10 or 15 depending on the type of event for the reserved slots.
I keep a running chart showing remaining slots, but it's a snapshot rather than being dynamic feedback.

400 - FIRST Championship
30 -- Central Illinois Regional
54 -- Palmetto Regional
54 -- Alamo Regional
24 -- Greater Toronto West Regional
30 -- Inland Empire Regional
50 -- Israel Regional
36 -- Greater Toronto East Regional
38 -- Arkansas Regional
47 -- San Diego Regional
35 -- Crossroads Regional
50 -- Lake Superior Regional
50 -- Northern Lights Regional
54 -- Hub City Regional
28 -- Central Valley Regional
42 -- Mexico City Regional
43 -- Sacramento Regional
54 -- Orlando Regional
50 -- Greater Kansas City Regional
26 -- St. Louis Regional
44 -- North Carolina Regional
30 -- New York Tech Valley Regional
38 -- Dallas Regional
44 -- Utah Regional
21 -- Waterloo Regional
32 -- Festival de Robotique FRC a Montreal Regional
20 -- Arizona Regional
55 -- Los Angeles Regional sponsored by The Roddenberry Foundation
30 -- Boilermaker Regional
50 -- Buckeye Regional
54 -- Virginia Regional
54 -- Wisconsin Regional
30 -- North Bay Regional
54 -- Peachtree Regional
28 -- Hawaii Regional
50 -- Minnesota North Star Regional
53 -- Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
40 -- SBPLI Long Island Regional
40 -- Finger Lakes Regional
47 -- Queen City Regional
54 -- Oklahoma Regional
44 -- Greater Pittsburgh Regional
40 -- Smoky Mountains Regional
38 -- Greater DC Regional
32 -- Western Canada Regional
38 -- Windsor Essex Great Lakes Regional
50 -- Silicon Valley Regional
44 -- Colorado Regional
42 -- South Florida Regional
44 -- Midwest Regional
54 -- Bayou Regional
44 -- Chesapeake Regional
42 -- Las Vegas Regional
56 -- New York City Regional
54 -- Lone Star Regional
0 --- New England FRC Region Championship
0 --- Michigan FRC State Championship
0 --- Autodesk PNW FRC Championship
0 --- Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship
35 -- Center Line FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- Southfield FIRST Robotics District Competition
30 -- Granite State District Event
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Auburn Mountainview District Event
35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Mt. Olive District Competition
35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Hatboro-Horsham District Competition
30 -- UNH District Event
35 -- Kettering University FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- Gull Lake FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Oregon City District Event
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Glacier Peak District Event
30 -- Groton District Event
30 -- WPI District Event
35 -- Escanaba FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- Howell FIRST Robotics District Competition
31 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Springside Chestnut Hill District Competition
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Eastern Washington University District Event
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Mt. Vernon District Event
35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Clifton District Competition
35 -- West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- Traverse City FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Wilsonville District Event
30 -- Rhode Island District Event
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Shorewood District Event
30 -- Southington District Event
35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Lenape-Seneca District Competition
30 -- Northeastern University District Event
35 -- Livonia FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- St. Joseph FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Auburn District Event
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Central Washington University District Event
30 -- Hartford District Event
37 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Bridgewater-Raritan District Competition
30 -- Pine Tree District Event
35 -- Bedford FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition
35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Oregon State University District Event

Gary Dillard 27-09-2013 13:16

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Smoky Mountain just hit initial capacity; 6 rookies already on the list.

BrendanB 27-09-2013 16:34

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Team 1786 from Dublin, NH is a new team for 2014 that has a listed rookie season of 2006. Any news on who they are/were associated with?

MARS_James 27-09-2013 16:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1293391)
Team 1786 from Dublin, NH is a new team for 2014 that has a listed rookie season of 2006. Any news on who they are/were associated with?

1729 Plan B used to be a part of The Dublin School and that is where 1786 is listed as being from so they are my best guess

dodar 27-09-2013 16:42

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Are any of those 6 "Early Filled" regionals the same as last year's "Early Fillers?"

MARS_James 27-09-2013 16:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1293308)
  • St. Louis Regional
  • Waterloo Regional
  • Montreal Regional
  • Arizona Regional (+5 more - there was some funny business at the start registration for this one)
  • Boilermaker Regional
  • WPI District (+1 more)

Interesting that 4/6 of those events are the same week with the other 2 being the same week as each other.

Also the 4 are the same week as Spring break in Palm Beach county. With the two being the weekend before.

Qbot2640 27-09-2013 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Dillard (Post 1293366)
Smoky Mountain just hit initial capacity; 6 rookies already on the list.

I'm still a bit new to all of this, and don't completely understand what "reserved slots" are...but my team was hoping to make Smoky Mountains our second choice...is this still possible?

This regional filled quickly last year, and I considered making it our first choice, but I thought that last year's popularity may have been due to its proximity to the Easter Holiday.

rsisk 27-09-2013 17:11

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Reserved slots are typically held back for rookie teams. It also gives the regional director some flexibility to manage the regional when things get hectic towards the final days of registration.

Peyton Yeung 27-09-2013 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbot2640 (Post 1293397)
I'm still a bit new to all of this, and don't completely understand what "reserved slots" are...but my team was hoping to make Smoky Mountains our second choice...is this still possible?

This regional filled quickly last year, and I considered making it our first choice, but I thought that last year's popularity may have been due to its proximity to the Easter Holiday.

Reserve slots are spots that the Regional sets aside for rookie teams that usually are in the area. They are there to allow rookies to compete in regionals that are in their area.

Edit: Oops rsisk beat me to it

Qbot2640 27-09-2013 17:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung (Post 1293400)
Reserve slots are spots that the Regional sets aside for rookie teams that usually are in the area. They are there to allow rookies to compete in regionals that are in their area.

Edit: Oops rsisk beat me to it

Is there any way of knowing how many reserved slots there are for a particular competition...and when do those slots open up to veteran teams?

rsisk 27-09-2013 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbot2640 (Post 1293401)
Is there any way of knowing how many reserved slots there are for a particular competition...and when do those slots open up to veteran teams?

Probably not since it is at the discretion of the regional director and FIRST.

Qbot2640 27-09-2013 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsisk (Post 1293405)
Probably not since it is at the discretion of the regional director and FIRST.

So for planning purposes, we should rule this regional out?

rsisk 27-09-2013 18:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbot2640 (Post 1293406)
So for planning purposes, we should rule this regional out?

Well, there is a significant risk of not getting one of those reserved spots since they are typically used for rookies. If I was planning for my team second regional, I would look for regionals with available spots without considering the reserved spots. YMMV

Mark McLeod 27-09-2013 20:01

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Here's a graph of the first 12 hours of registration.
The prior two years are included for comparison.

We were faster out of the gate this year (credit to FIRST IT for handling 1000 people registering all at once), but last year more (proportionally) of us were eager to get into an event the first day.
I'm interested to see if the District teams with more guaranteed slots are more laid back about registering, while the Regional teams close to the Districts scramble with increasingly more limited options for second events.

Registration for Districts:
  • MI: 126
  • MAR: 79
  • PNW: 137
  • NE: 131
  • Regionals: 1213

Pault 28-09-2013 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1293445)
Here's a graph of the first 12 hours of registration.
The prior two years are included for comparison.

We were faster out of the gate this year (credit to FIRST IT for handling 1000 people registering all at once), but last year more (proportionally) of us were eager to get into an event the first day.
I'm interested to see if the District teams with more guaranteed slots are more laid back about registering, while the Regional teams close to the Districts scramble with increasingly more limited options for second events.

Registration for Districts:
  • MI: 126
  • MAR: 79
  • PNW: 137
  • NE: 131
  • Regionals: 1213

Here in New England, there was a scramble to register for 2 reasons.
1. Because this is new, we had no way of knowing what, if any, events would fill instantly.
2. We're used to it. Its in our blood for lead mentors to be sitting at a computer at 11:55AM waiting for registration to open. Mine did it pulled over at a gas station in the middle of nowhere. It would feel wrong not to do it.

And in a way, us New Englanders were right. WPI filled in under 10 minutes (which really shouldn't happen in a district system).

BBray_T1296 28-09-2013 19:27

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This stuff is all just Really cool! glad to see FIRST really take off

Calvin Hartley 29-09-2013 00:16

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Forgive me if this has already been covered in this thread or elsewhere, but...

Does anybody know how many rookie teams have registered thus far this year?

Ilovepineapples 29-09-2013 00:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvin Hartley (Post 1293622)
Forgive me if this has already been covered in this thread or elsewhere, but...

Does anybody know how many rookie teams have registered thus far this year?

128 rookies I believe.

Calvin Hartley 29-09-2013 01:19

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Originally Posted by Ilovepineapples (Post 1293626)
128 rookies I believe.

Thanks!! And not that I don't believe you, but to satisfy my resource-checking mind, where are you getting that number? :o

Mark McLeod 29-09-2013 06:59

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Just count the teams 4900 and above at any particular moment in time.
Now 130 rookies (@ 7am, 9/29/13).

There are also new teams given veteran team numbers, but they aren't considered rookies by FIRST, because experienced members started the team.

Racer26 29-09-2013 23:24

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So here's how Ontario is shaping up as of 10:30pm EST or so Sunday night.

73 teams registered for 2014 (We played with 73 in 2013, and 78 in 2012)
21 rookies registered for 2014 (23 in 2013, 21 in 2012)
7 teams are resurrected 2012 vets (of the 18 or so we lost in 2013)
1 team (746) is a new 2002 rookie (associated with 886).
Waterloo and GTRWest have reached initial capacity (with an additional 11 slots in reserve at Waterloo, and 6 at West if predictions are correct)

With Montreal also at initial capacity, the 32 teams from there will also be looking to Ontario (probably GTREast or North Bay) for a 2nd event.

105 teams, of which, I expect 30% to be 2 event teams, and 13.5% to be 3 event teams. About 45 teams looking for another event in round 2, plus the stragglers and travellers from elsewhere. ON/QC is currently showing a total of 79 seats open capacity (not counting held back spots)

Mark McLeod 30-09-2013 13:55

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1800 teams right now.
70% of last season's total.

MARS_James 30-09-2013 14:19

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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1293828)
1800 teams right now.
70% of last season's total.

Time for more fun with stats:

Thus far:
We have 136 rookies (37% of last years total rookies)
153 2nd year teams (43% Rookie Retention)
We have a total of 1664 non rookies (65% retention)
And we have 1511 Veteran Teams* (85% of the total number last year)

*Veteran Teams are teams that are on their 3rd game this shows teams that hopefully have long term success in place

pntbll1313 30-09-2013 16:04

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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1293828)
1800 teams right now.
70% of last season's total.

Based on Mark's quote from last year's 2013 thread on October 2nd 2012 (exactly 5 days after registration opened just like it is right now). We have over 200 more teams registered in the same 5 days!

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...regi stration
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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1188831)
More than 1600 teams now showing as registered (plus a guesstimated 40-50 hidden on waitlists). Last year only had 1307 teams showing (with a guesstimated waitlist of maybe 30 teams).

Last year's registration didn't reach 1600 until 8 days later.

Peachtree reached Initial Capacity.

More than 100 new teams.


Steven Donow 30-09-2013 16:21

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Has anyone compiled data/info on all the "new" non-rookie teams, as well as "revived" teams?

Francis-134 30-09-2013 16:35

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Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1293830)
Time for more fun with stats:

Thus far:
We have 136 rookies (37% of last years total rookies)
153 2nd year teams (43% Rookie Retention)
We have a total of 1664 non rookies (65% retention)
And we have 1511 Veteran Teams* (85% of the total number last year)

*Veteran Teams are teams that are on their 3rd game this shows teams that hopefully have long term success in place

This is the information I am very interested in! Hope to see more rookies return from last year, because right now, that number seems rather low.

PVCpirate 30-09-2013 17:22

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Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1293830)
Time for more fun with stats:

Thus far:
We have 136 rookies (37% of last years total rookies)
153 2nd year teams (43% Rookie Retention)
We have a total of 1664 non rookies (65% retention)
And we have 1511 Veteran Teams* (85% of the total number last year)

*Veteran Teams are teams that are on their 3rd game this shows teams that hopefully have long term success in place

Making this distinction makes sense, but I think I would push it out 1-2 more years. I only say this because often teams only last as long as their original members are still involved, which is 4 years or less.

BrendanB 30-09-2013 17:45

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Originally Posted by PVCpirate (Post 1293870)
Making this distinction makes sense, but I think I would push it out 1-2 more years. I only say this because often teams only last as long as their original members are still involved, which is 4 years or less.

True.

As member who went from a well established team to working with a rookie team, years 2-3.5 are/were the hardest. In our second year we could tell our rookie grants were slightly lower and in our third season we lost NASA and JCP was cut down to $1k (but we weren't expecting anything going into 2013 since we weren't rookies or a sustaining team). We did work a lot in 2011 and 2012 with lightbulbs but our market was saturated when we sold a lot and local retail stores carried them. During this past season and going into 2014 we have had to work much harder working towards becoming more financially stable. We now have moved out of our "rookie" funding and have relationships with our sponsors as well as having ways of generating money (ticket raffles, 5k, etc).

It takes a lot of work but rookie grants are both amazing and a curse! We owe a lot to our parents and business mentors for leading us through financial trouble!

ehochstein 30-09-2013 18:37

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Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1293882)
True.

As member who went from a well established team to working with a rookie team, years 2-3.5 are/were the hardest. In our second year we could tell our rookie grants were slightly lower and in our third season we lost NASA and JCP was cut down to $1k (but we weren't expecting anything going into 2013 since we weren't rookies or a sustaining team). We did work a lot in 2011 and 2012 with lightbulbs but our market was saturated when we sold a lot and local retail stores carried them. During this past season and going into 2014 we have had to work much harder working towards becoming more financially stable. We now have moved out of our "rookie" funding and have relationships with our sponsors as well as having ways of generating money (ticket raffles, 5k, etc).

It takes a lot of work but rookie grants are both amazing and a curse! We owe a lot to our parents and business mentors for leading us through financial trouble!

I hear there is some sort of Fundraising Toolkit that FIRST is releasing soon. Hopefully that will help out with some of the funding troubles those new veteran teams run into.

MARS_James 30-09-2013 19:24

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Originally Posted by PVCpirate (Post 1293870)
Making this distinction makes sense, but I think I would push it out 1-2 more years. I only say this because often teams only last as long as their original members are still involved, which is 4 years or less.

Ok well in that case we had 1272 teams about to play there 5th game last year. This year we have 1095 (86% as many teams are 5 years or older)

Racer26 02-10-2013 16:30

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Huh. Team 5051 Fast Eddie Community Robotics from Port Perry, ON.

Listed as a 2014 rookie. Certainly SEEMS like another revival of 1006, which used to be Port Perry High School's team "Fast Eddie Robotics", which played 2003-2009, 2011.

I'm gonna guess that at least some of the people involved are the same people. Likely has rookie status due to its apparent separation from PPHS.

S.P.A.M.er 02-10-2013 21:17

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Is it just me or has South Florida regional just been ignored by everyone this year, even by us (SPAM). All Big name Florida teams havent even registered...... I'm slightly shocked:ahh:

as of 9:15 on the 2nd of October (today) there's 30 spots left. Its teams 108 and 168.... then jumps to 1649.... then all the way to 3992.

Gary Dillard 03-10-2013 08:11

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Originally Posted by S.P.A.M.er (Post 1294280)
Is it just me or has South Florida regional just been ignored by everyone this year, even by us (SPAM). All Big name Florida teams havent even registered...... I'm slightly shocked:ahh:

as of 9:15 on the 2nd of October (today) there's 30 spots left. Its teams 108 and 168.... then jumps to 1649.... then all the way to 3992.

Likely teams were registering for Orlando which must have filled up earlier last year (it's already full this year), figuring spots would be available for South Florida when 2nd regional registration opens up (and they are). We did the same thing when choosing which to register for our first regional - Smoky Mountain filled up last year (it's already full this year) while Bayou still had plenty of spots available, same as this year.

Taylor 03-10-2013 08:23

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Originally Posted by Francis-134 (Post 1293857)
This is the information I am very interested in! Hope to see more rookies return from last year, because right now, that number seems rather low.

I'm not terribly concerned. Rookies and second-years have a tradition of not signing up the first week; several don't pop up officially until late November/December.

BrennanB 03-10-2013 11:07

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Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1294247)
Huh. Team 5051 Fast Eddie Community Robotics from Port Perry, ON.

Listed as a 2014 rookie. Certainly SEEMS like another revival of 1006, which used to be Port Perry High School's team "Fast Eddie Robotics", which played 2003-2009, 2011.

I'm gonna guess that at least some of the people involved are the same people. Likely has rookie status due to its apparent separation from PPHS.

Yep, a previous member and FIRST volunteer mentioned to me at champs that he was thinking of reviving his old team...

Koko Ed 03-10-2013 14:09

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Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1294356)
Yep, a previous member and FIRST volunteer mentioned to me at champs that he was thinking of reviving his old team...

Shaun had been talking about reviving the old team.
Looks like he got it done.

Fletch1373 03-10-2013 20:54

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So, this is kinda-sorta relevant. Some of you know I've been doing this for the last couple years, and it's happened again. This thread doesn't seem to have gotten much visibility, so I'm posting it here too. Enjoy!

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=118447

Mark McLeod 06-10-2013 14:02

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2025 teams are registered. Another 500 teams to go to reach (and then pass) last year's total.

We crossed the 2000 team mark 10 days ahead of last year's subscription.

13 Regionals are at (or greater than initial capacity):
  • Greater Toronto West (+2)
  • San Diego (+2)
  • Orlando
  • St. Louis (+1)
  • Waterloo (+2)
  • Montreal
  • Los Angeles (+1)
  • Boilermaker
  • North Star
  • 10000 Lakes
  • Long Island
  • Smoky Mountains (+3)
  • Midwest (+1)
Arizona is a unique case in that the initial capacity was zero and it keeps adding in teams.
Five more Regionals are in the single digits.

One District (WPI (+2)) is at initial capacity.

dodar 06-10-2013 14:08

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When does 2nd event registration open?

Mark McLeod 06-10-2013 14:11

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Noon on Oct 24

Mark McLeod 10-10-2013 10:48

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In anticipation of noon's 2nd District event registration, here are the 1st event tally's:
  • MI Districts - 186
  • MAR Districts - 97
  • PNW Districts - 149
  • NE Districts - 144
  • Regionals - 1537
Currently 2113 teams overall are now registered.

That compares favorably to the 1832 teams registered by this matching time last season. If that ratio continues that would meant a final team count of 2911 give or take for this season.

Racer26 10-10-2013 11:52

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Interesting. I predicted about 2850 teams total this season. Be interesting to see how accurate that is.

Also: WHOA. 1285. New 2014 team, 2004 rookie, second team at 1241's school, registered at ONWA. 1241 is currently registered at ONTO2 (GTRWest).

Looks like a couple Toronto area schools are trying the double-team thing in 2014, including the reigning world champions.

Tungrus 10-10-2013 12:07

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Holy cows! Livonia is full at 12:01PM!

Mr MOE 10-10-2013 12:16

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Once again, awesome speed to register for second district event today. With only district teams registering at 12noon EST, we were able to lock in our second district event (Springside/Chestnut Hill) before 12:01pm!

Thanks, FIRST IT!

Christopher149 10-10-2013 12:28

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Originally Posted by Mr MOE (Post 1295723)
Once again, awesome speed to register for second district event today. With only district teams registering at 12noon EST, we were able to lock in our second district event (Springside/Chestnut Hill) before 12:01pm!

Thanks, FIRST IT!

Aww, an we got waitlisted for our second district (and only 15 teams are signed up so far).

Mark McLeod 10-10-2013 12:33

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7 Districts went to initial capacity.
Several Michigan Districts got frozen where they were (Escanaba & Traverse City) or the initial cap was dropped by 4 or 5 (Kettering, Oregon City, Glacier Peak, West Michigan, Livonia).

Thad House 10-10-2013 12:55

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All PNW events dropped from 40 teams per event to 36 teams per event. That is why Oregon City filled up so quick, because there was only 2 slots open when registration opened this morning.

Tungrus 10-10-2013 13:16

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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1295727)
7 Districts went to initial capacity.
Several Michigan Districts got frozen where they were (Escanaba & Traverse City) or the initial cap was dropped by 4 or 5 (Kettering, Oregon City, Glacier Peak, West Michigan, Livonia).

Where can I see who has registered for Michigan District event? Thanks.

Calvin Hartley 10-10-2013 13:41

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Originally Posted by Tungrus (Post 1295737)
Where can I see who has registered for Michigan District event? Thanks.

District events are listed with the regionals here. The easiest way to find one is just ctrl+F (or command+F) and search for the event. Click on the event, then on "What teams are registered for this event?" It'll lead to a list of teams.


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