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Registration numbers might be increasingly difficult to track this year now that FIRST is up to four distinct district systems.
Assuming team growth doesn't force the last minute addition of more district events like we've seen some years, we now have close to 100 regular season competition events: 54 Regional events 37 District events 4 District Championships 1 World Championship ---- 96 events Nearly 25% more events this year than last year. That's more events than there were teams for the first five years of FRC's existence. More than 40% of FRC events are now under the district system. |
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The 2014 season has officially begun:)
Thanks Mark, this thread is always awesome |
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So how many teams from each district move on to Championship?
To my knowledge (and the minimal research I have done.) it is: 27 from Michigan 14 from MAR 30 from NE 24 from PNW So this means for Championship we have 95 District Slots, 324 Regional Slots, 18 Hall of Fame Slots, And the 4 Slots from last years Championship. So if they don't let teams sustaining from 1992 on (Though I am sure they will) we have 441 Championship slots correct? |
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I thought district bids were based on percentage of teams in the district relative to the total number of teams, multiplied by the number of championship slots -- meaning michigan might have more or less than 27 slots.
I'm not sure how this works out, because if they "plan" on a 400 team championship, it's possible that districts could get fewer bids, as there would only be 76 "other" slots. |
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Reasons CMP needs more capacity than 400.
Also: CMP only having 8 matches per team was a big point of contention in 2013. There's really only a few ways to get more capacity AND more matches/team. Make the event longer. This is a bad idea for lots of reasons, mostly cost and burnout related. Make the matches shorter. Again, a bad idea. The matches are short enough as it is. Reduce field reset time. Not sure how much room for improvement there truly is here. Even with 2013's huge numbers of game pieces, field reset crews were pretty efficient. Those three are the only way to achieve more matches/team and more teams, without adding more fields. The truth is, there is no option to achieve this (especially at the rate FIRST is growing now) without adding more fields to CMP. There's two options for how to do that. Adding more divisions. Going to 6 or 8 divisions adds time to Einstein, which is already much longer than it should be. BUT, doing this might make Einstein feel less tedious. The downside is that you need 50-100% MORE volunteers than CMP already needs. Additionally, the space required for the fields to run 8 separate divisions starts to get really hard to find, and noise pollution from adjacent fields could be a problem as well. Making the divisions run two fields, a la 2004/2006 Greater Toronto Regionals. Same number of fields as 8 divisions, but needs far fewer volunteers, especially if its done smart. Also, solves the noise pollution and space problems. The two fields can be placed much closer together than if they were separate divisions. With the new 2015 control system coming down the pipe, it would be comparatively easy for FIRST to set up the scorpion boxes to talk to two sets of field hardware as a single division. Achieves nearly double the match throughput of a single field. I had calculated it out not long ago, IIRC, doublefield divisions would allow 140 teams per division to have 12 matches without increasing the length of CMP at all. On another note: I'm rather concerned about Ontario's capacity, especially in the Toronto area. Of the 73 2013 veteran teams, the relocated and downsized GTRWest is geographically the closest event to 40 of them. It only has a 30 team capacity. This completely ignoring the 20 or so 2012 veterans lost to teacher action in 2013 who will be returning (many of them from the Toronto area), and whatever new rookies come for 2014. My prediction is that Ontario is approximately a whole 30-40 team event (ideally located in Mississauga, ironically) short on capacity. |
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725 teams registered during the first five minutes.
Past 1000 teams in 28 minutes. |
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Another capacity crunch will be in the DC area, as the DC and Chesapeake regionals both move to new venues with smaller capacities and the area continues to gain FRC teams. I'm hopeful that we might be able to get a second event for some of the DC teams because of district teams first regional registration being pushed back to third regionals for non-district teams.
Does anyone else not see the specific teams that are registered for an event? I see quantity of teams, but when I click on "See The Teams Registered for this Event" is doesn't list the teams. Wetzel |
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The servers seem to be holding up much better than last year.
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I'm very impressed with the speed in which I was able to register.
Looks like the Boilermaker Regional only has five spots left (with the 10-team buffer) fifteen minutes in. |
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WPI filled up in under ten minutes.
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4901 was in and out in maybe three minutes. South Florida, here we come!
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Thank you FIRST for enabling teams to register so quickly and cleanly this year. This was the best first FIRST event registration from ease and speed that I recall for a long time.
Kudos! |
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Interesting tidbit: several of the Ontario teams from 2012 that disappeared in 2013 are back already. 4250, 1246, 188, 886.
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Looks like 4900 is the lowest rookie number and it is to Magic Island from Brazil
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Also: Its pretty apparent that the vets are favouring the GTRWest and Waterloo events due to their popularity and small capacity. GTREast, North Bay, and Windsor are all showing very few teams (other than rookies from the Windsor area)
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Team 10 has returned to Minnesota.
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Whoa. 746. A new 2002 rookie with no history pre-2014 at GTRWest. A resurrection to be sure. Anybody know what their old number was?
Nevermind. Not a resurrection. A new second team at the same school as 886. I believe this may be the first double team school in Canada, joining the ranks of 494/70, 216/244/288 from MI. |
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Found the team lists.
First UAE team headed to Chesapeake. Al Ain, AZ United Arab Emirates Manor Hall International School 4928 |
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Interesting. Montreal is full with only 6 rookies. and 3360 may have created a situation for themselves where they can't even go to their home regional.
Also interesting? What's happening with the team names of the various Ontario teams restructured as community teams last year. Some, like 1114, have dropped their 2013 name and reverted back to their 2012 and prior styling, while others, like 1241, have kept the 2013 style, and still others, like 1334, have added their school name back in, but kept their 2013 name as well. |
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Is there an easy way to view the list of all registered teams, rather than sorting by regional or area? The old "What teams are in my area?" used to let me do that, but with the redesign it isn't giving that option anymore.
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Use the old one: What Events And Teams Are In My Area?
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Team 2512 is now registered for Northern Lights Regional! On a side note..... MORE OF YOU SHOULD COME TO MINNESOTA! |
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Rookie Team 4975 from Turkey will be attending the new NY Tech Valley Regional--very interesting!!
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Is there a 5000s team yet?
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Hey 368 is back!
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It made my 6am get ready for work time a whole lot less stressing. |
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Ooh, 4995 is a new team. They're living in Paradise, Michigan
Also glad to see the Harris team - the UP is getting some really rural teams this year. <rant> And I will get 857 registered just as soon as people reply to my emails!!!! </rant> |
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New England Signups
Registered/Open Granite State: 25/5 UNH: 16/14 Groton: 13/17 WPI: 31/0 RI: 1/29 Southington: 12/18 Northeastern: 19/11 Hartford: 8/22 Pine Tree: 1/29 Which would suggest that 126 FRC NE teams have already registered. I believe last year there were 147, and I think this year's projection was around 160, so that would suggest that ~34 teams have yet to register, but that almost 79% of New England teams have already registered for their first event! |
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MAR Events:
Mount Olive: 22/13 Hatboro-Horsham: 21/14 Springside-Chestnut Hill: 7/24 Clifton: 3/32 Lenape-Seneca: 8/27 Bridgewater-Raritan 13/24 Total MAR teams registered: 74 (68% of teams in 2013) Also, it's worth noting that right now that the FIRST site shows two new Mar Teams so far: 4954 Palindrome Robotics Clubfrom Delaware 265 Moderate Heat (223's JV Team) |
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3 new teams so far in Silicon Valley: 4973 in San Francisco and 4904 and 4990, both from Hillsborough. Capuchino High School in San Bruno has a new team entered in the Cal Games, so I assume they'd be going to SVR as well.
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We've officially crossed 5000 with Quantum Robotics. Combing through the 200+ new teams, there's already 4 new teams in the KC area (all on MO side), 6 unidentified in MO, and 1 unidentified in KS (might be in Manhattan, just got email that some KSU students are trying to start a team here again). Neat to see so much growth. |
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So as of right now we have 1369 of last years 2524 teams registered.
In Florida we have 35 of last years 64 veterans registered so I am guessing some areas have gaps like ours |
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3397 is signed up for STL regional (got one of the last 2 slots, we missed the fact that registration was today.)
On that note, many strong teams are missing, it seems. 1985, 1094, 1288, 1208,931 are missing. Some are at Central Illinois regional, but will hopefully come to St. Louis as a second regional. I am also excited to see THRUST joining us, as well as the other out of state teams. This is gonna be awesome. |
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Right now, Orlando is 34%(14/41) Non-Floridians. I do believe there is also 5 teams from Brazil registered too.
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We were in Orlando last year, now we are going with some friends! :p
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Is there any web page that shows all the regional capacities like FIRST used to have years ago before they did the big website upgrade? Especially with the increased number of events, this is really needed.
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It even changed color as the regional event neared full capacity. |
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Past 1600 registered teams at 9am ET this morning.
Rookies:
Initial capacity (winners of the popularity or overcrowded contest) has been reached at:
Here's the initial published event capacity. Add 5 or 10 or 15 depending on the type of event for the reserved slots. I keep a running chart showing remaining slots, but it's a snapshot rather than being dynamic feedback. 400 - FIRST Championship 30 -- Central Illinois Regional 54 -- Palmetto Regional 54 -- Alamo Regional 24 -- Greater Toronto West Regional 30 -- Inland Empire Regional 50 -- Israel Regional 36 -- Greater Toronto East Regional 38 -- Arkansas Regional 47 -- San Diego Regional 35 -- Crossroads Regional 50 -- Lake Superior Regional 50 -- Northern Lights Regional 54 -- Hub City Regional 28 -- Central Valley Regional 42 -- Mexico City Regional 43 -- Sacramento Regional 54 -- Orlando Regional 50 -- Greater Kansas City Regional 26 -- St. Louis Regional 44 -- North Carolina Regional 30 -- New York Tech Valley Regional 38 -- Dallas Regional 44 -- Utah Regional 21 -- Waterloo Regional 32 -- Festival de Robotique FRC a Montreal Regional 20 -- Arizona Regional 55 -- Los Angeles Regional sponsored by The Roddenberry Foundation 30 -- Boilermaker Regional 50 -- Buckeye Regional 54 -- Virginia Regional 54 -- Wisconsin Regional 30 -- North Bay Regional 54 -- Peachtree Regional 28 -- Hawaii Regional 50 -- Minnesota North Star Regional 53 -- Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional 40 -- SBPLI Long Island Regional 40 -- Finger Lakes Regional 47 -- Queen City Regional 54 -- Oklahoma Regional 44 -- Greater Pittsburgh Regional 40 -- Smoky Mountains Regional 38 -- Greater DC Regional 32 -- Western Canada Regional 38 -- Windsor Essex Great Lakes Regional 50 -- Silicon Valley Regional 44 -- Colorado Regional 42 -- South Florida Regional 44 -- Midwest Regional 54 -- Bayou Regional 44 -- Chesapeake Regional 42 -- Las Vegas Regional 56 -- New York City Regional 54 -- Lone Star Regional 0 --- New England FRC Region Championship 0 --- Michigan FRC State Championship 0 --- Autodesk PNW FRC Championship 0 --- Mid-Atlantic Robotics FRC Region Championship 35 -- Center Line FIRST Robotics District Competition 35 -- Southfield FIRST Robotics District Competition 30 -- Granite State District Event 35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Auburn Mountainview District Event 35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Mt. Olive District Competition 35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Hatboro-Horsham District Competition 30 -- UNH District Event 35 -- Kettering University FIRST Robotics District Competition 35 -- Gull Lake FIRST Robotics District Competition 35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Oregon City District Event 35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Glacier Peak District Event 30 -- Groton District Event 30 -- WPI District Event 35 -- Escanaba FIRST Robotics District Competition 35 -- Howell FIRST Robotics District Competition 31 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Springside Chestnut Hill District Competition 35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Eastern Washington University District Event 35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Mt. Vernon District Event 35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Clifton District Competition 35 -- West Michigan FIRST Robotics District Competition 35 -- Traverse City FIRST Robotics District Competition 35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Wilsonville District Event 30 -- Rhode Island District Event 35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Shorewood District Event 30 -- Southington District Event 35 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Lenape-Seneca District Competition 30 -- Northeastern University District Event 35 -- Livonia FIRST Robotics District Competition 35 -- St. Joseph FIRST Robotics District Competition 35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Auburn District Event 35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Central Washington University District Event 30 -- Hartford District Event 37 -- MAR FIRST Robotics Bridgewater-Raritan District Competition 30 -- Pine Tree District Event 35 -- Bedford FIRST Robotics District Competition 35 -- Troy FIRST Robotics District Competition 35 -- PNW FIRST Robotics Oregon State University District Event |
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Smoky Mountain just hit initial capacity; 6 rookies already on the list.
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Team 1786 from Dublin, NH is a new team for 2014 that has a listed rookie season of 2006. Any news on who they are/were associated with?
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Are any of those 6 "Early Filled" regionals the same as last year's "Early Fillers?"
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Also the 4 are the same week as Spring break in Palm Beach county. With the two being the weekend before. |
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This regional filled quickly last year, and I considered making it our first choice, but I thought that last year's popularity may have been due to its proximity to the Easter Holiday. |
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Reserved slots are typically held back for rookie teams. It also gives the regional director some flexibility to manage the regional when things get hectic towards the final days of registration.
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Here's a graph of the first 12 hours of registration.
The prior two years are included for comparison. We were faster out of the gate this year (credit to FIRST IT for handling 1000 people registering all at once), but last year more (proportionally) of us were eager to get into an event the first day. I'm interested to see if the District teams with more guaranteed slots are more laid back about registering, while the Regional teams close to the Districts scramble with increasingly more limited options for second events. Registration for Districts:
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1. Because this is new, we had no way of knowing what, if any, events would fill instantly. 2. We're used to it. Its in our blood for lead mentors to be sitting at a computer at 11:55AM waiting for registration to open. Mine did it pulled over at a gas station in the middle of nowhere. It would feel wrong not to do it. And in a way, us New Englanders were right. WPI filled in under 10 minutes (which really shouldn't happen in a district system). |
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This stuff is all just Really cool! glad to see FIRST really take off
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Forgive me if this has already been covered in this thread or elsewhere, but...
Does anybody know how many rookie teams have registered thus far this year? |
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Just count the teams 4900 and above at any particular moment in time.
Now 130 rookies (@ 7am, 9/29/13). There are also new teams given veteran team numbers, but they aren't considered rookies by FIRST, because experienced members started the team. |
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So here's how Ontario is shaping up as of 10:30pm EST or so Sunday night.
73 teams registered for 2014 (We played with 73 in 2013, and 78 in 2012) 21 rookies registered for 2014 (23 in 2013, 21 in 2012) 7 teams are resurrected 2012 vets (of the 18 or so we lost in 2013) 1 team (746) is a new 2002 rookie (associated with 886). Waterloo and GTRWest have reached initial capacity (with an additional 11 slots in reserve at Waterloo, and 6 at West if predictions are correct) With Montreal also at initial capacity, the 32 teams from there will also be looking to Ontario (probably GTREast or North Bay) for a 2nd event. 105 teams, of which, I expect 30% to be 2 event teams, and 13.5% to be 3 event teams. About 45 teams looking for another event in round 2, plus the stragglers and travellers from elsewhere. ON/QC is currently showing a total of 79 seats open capacity (not counting held back spots) |
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1800 teams right now.
70% of last season's total. |
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Thus far: We have 136 rookies (37% of last years total rookies) 153 2nd year teams (43% Rookie Retention) We have a total of 1664 non rookies (65% retention) And we have 1511 Veteran Teams* (85% of the total number last year) *Veteran Teams are teams that are on their 3rd game this shows teams that hopefully have long term success in place |
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Has anyone compiled data/info on all the "new" non-rookie teams, as well as "revived" teams?
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As member who went from a well established team to working with a rookie team, years 2-3.5 are/were the hardest. In our second year we could tell our rookie grants were slightly lower and in our third season we lost NASA and JCP was cut down to $1k (but we weren't expecting anything going into 2013 since we weren't rookies or a sustaining team). We did work a lot in 2011 and 2012 with lightbulbs but our market was saturated when we sold a lot and local retail stores carried them. During this past season and going into 2014 we have had to work much harder working towards becoming more financially stable. We now have moved out of our "rookie" funding and have relationships with our sponsors as well as having ways of generating money (ticket raffles, 5k, etc). It takes a lot of work but rookie grants are both amazing and a curse! We owe a lot to our parents and business mentors for leading us through financial trouble! |
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Huh. Team 5051 Fast Eddie Community Robotics from Port Perry, ON.
Listed as a 2014 rookie. Certainly SEEMS like another revival of 1006, which used to be Port Perry High School's team "Fast Eddie Robotics", which played 2003-2009, 2011. I'm gonna guess that at least some of the people involved are the same people. Likely has rookie status due to its apparent separation from PPHS. |
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Is it just me or has South Florida regional just been ignored by everyone this year, even by us (SPAM). All Big name Florida teams havent even registered...... I'm slightly shocked:ahh:
as of 9:15 on the 2nd of October (today) there's 30 spots left. Its teams 108 and 168.... then jumps to 1649.... then all the way to 3992. |
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So, this is kinda-sorta relevant. Some of you know I've been doing this for the last couple years, and it's happened again. This thread doesn't seem to have gotten much visibility, so I'm posting it here too. Enjoy!
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=118447 |
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2025 teams are registered. Another 500 teams to go to reach (and then pass) last year's total.
We crossed the 2000 team mark 10 days ahead of last year's subscription. 13 Regionals are at (or greater than initial capacity):
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When does 2nd event registration open?
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In anticipation of noon's 2nd District event registration, here are the 1st event tally's:
That compares favorably to the 1832 teams registered by this matching time last season. If that ratio continues that would meant a final team count of 2911 give or take for this season. |
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Interesting. I predicted about 2850 teams total this season. Be interesting to see how accurate that is.
Also: WHOA. 1285. New 2014 team, 2004 rookie, second team at 1241's school, registered at ONWA. 1241 is currently registered at ONTO2 (GTRWest). Looks like a couple Toronto area schools are trying the double-team thing in 2014, including the reigning world champions. |
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Holy cows! Livonia is full at 12:01PM!
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Once again, awesome speed to register for second district event today. With only district teams registering at 12noon EST, we were able to lock in our second district event (Springside/Chestnut Hill) before 12:01pm!
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7 Districts went to initial capacity.
Several Michigan Districts got frozen where they were (Escanaba & Traverse City) or the initial cap was dropped by 4 or 5 (Kettering, Oregon City, Glacier Peak, West Michigan, Livonia). |
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All PNW events dropped from 40 teams per event to 36 teams per event. That is why Oregon City filled up so quick, because there was only 2 slots open when registration opened this morning.
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