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roystur44 17-10-2013 13:09
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Nice machine. I bet those robots from Hawaii are going to be getting better and better every year.

Just a FYI Glen

The machine needs to be turned on and ran for a few hours each week. It's not good for the machine to sit idle weeks at a time.

Now that you have a cutter are you guys looking into press brake equipment?

AdamHeard 17-10-2013 13:12
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Glenn, the only GP thing we can do in this situation is provide you a list of parts you can make for us during this weekly maintenance.

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Originally Posted by roystur44 (Post 1297001)
Nice machine. I bet those robots from Hawaii are going to be getting better and better every year.

Just a FYI Glen

The machine needs to be turned on and ran for a few hours each week. It's not good for the machine to sit idle weeks at a time.

Now that you have a cutter are you guys looking into press brake equipment?

Brandon Holley 17-10-2013 14:56
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1297003)
Glenn, the only GP thing we can do in this situation is provide you a list of parts you can make for us during this weekly maintenance.
Yes Glenn, please let us know how we can help you out... ;)

Aren_Hill 17-10-2013 15:16
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Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 1297025)
Yes Glenn, please let us know how we can help you out... ;)
Anything for you Glenn, let me know as well.

CENTURION 17-10-2013 18:41
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Originally Posted by Brandon Ha (Post 1293052)
We get super lucky in the fact that our main mechanical mentor works at a place which allows for the usage of professional grade equipment for our team. He spends his work time on this but it is beautiful when you get the final result.
Man, I wish my work would pay me to make FRC parts :P

Can you say "Dream Job"?

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Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 1293270)
Our total funding I was able to get was $750,000 for which I used 1/3 towards renovations and the rest for equipment such as our jet, computers, a Sharp minimill, lots of tooling, and our nice big trophy case.:)
I have either been very lucky or very good in creating our business plan and proposals to get funding.

The largest one I got was back in 2005 when we wrote for 1.92 million and actually got it the 2nd time around, failing the year before. That's when we decided to kickstart our FRC program again after giving it up at the end of the 2003 season.
Okay, this is mind-blowingly amazing. I can't even begin to comprehend what we could do with that kind of money.

I understand wanting access to your own machine and all, but you could get a couple very nice CNC mills, (and a really, really nice CNC router for sheet metal parts) for that kind of cash, and running them will be a lot cheaper. Why waterjet?

waialua359 17-10-2013 19:33
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Originally Posted by CENTURION (Post 1297055)
Man, I wish my work would pay me to make FRC parts :P

Can you say "Dream Job"?



Okay, this is mind-blowingly amazing. I can't even begin to comprehend what we could do with that kind of money.

I understand wanting access to your own machine and all, but you could get a couple very nice CNC mills, (and a really, really nice CNC router for sheet metal parts) for that kind of cash, and running them will be a lot cheaper. Why waterjet?
We have a total of 7 mills and lathes, a Sharp minimill with a conveyer belt (new), and lots of other equipment already as well.
Maybe one day, we can get guys like Aren, Adam or Brandon to move to Hawaii and make use of all of our stuff.
I have dreams of even more stuff that I am working on. It wont happen overnight, but it will!
I guess you could say that's my "hobby" in the FRC program besides coaching and managing our program.

waialua359 17-10-2013 19:36
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Originally Posted by roystur44 (Post 1297001)
Nice machine. I bet those robots from Hawaii are going to be getting better and better every year.

Just a FYI Glen

The machine needs to be turned on and ran for a few hours each week. It's not good for the machine to sit idle weeks at a time.

Now that you have a cutter are you guys looking into press brake equipment?
Roy, thanks for the advice.
We were made well aware of doing just that by our trainer that came in from San Diego.

We have teams already requesting to use our machine.

However, I must say, we are now not the only HS in Hawaii with a Waterjet.
The rich private school in Honolulu, just got one too after inquiring about it with us just 6 months ago.
We are a rural PUBLIC high school. We have to work a LITTLE bit harder to get what we get.

DonRotolo 17-10-2013 21:26
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One day, not too far in the future, Hawaii will be turning out so many high-end skilled machinists, they'll become the new Detroit. GM, Ford and Chrysler will build their HQ there, along with several large production plants. Maybe a few imports, too.

Is the weather nicer in Hawaii than in Michigan? :rolleyes:

waialua359 17-10-2013 22:39
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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1297089)
One day, not too far in the future, Hawaii will be turning out so many high-end skilled machinists, they'll become the new Detroit. GM, Ford and Chrysler will build their HQ there, along with several large production plants. Maybe a few imports, too.

Is the weather nicer in Hawaii than in Michigan? :rolleyes:
There is a teacher right next to my VEX room who is from Michigan (went to Michigan State) and married a teacher from our community. After being here for quite a while, he does complain about not having the Michigan cold once in a while. :confused:

sanddrag 17-10-2013 23:56
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Saw a Flow waterjet in action at the WESTEC show today. Nice machine.

yash101 18-10-2013 00:04
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You guys are so lucky that you could afford this. It costs more than most homes in Phoenix! How'd you fund this much money? We are asking for tax-credit donations and if we do well, we will have ourselves $60k+. But that much money is just outrageous. keep up the good work and keep the community posted about how it works!

Andrew Schreiber 18-10-2013 00:20
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Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 1297107)
There is a teacher right next to my VEX room who is from Michigan (went to Michigan State) and married a teacher from our community. After being here for quite a while, he does complain about not having the Michigan cold once in a while. :confused:
As a misplaced Michigander, this is a real problem. Hopefully I can fix this in the near future :\


I'm sure Brando could keep that machine busy.

Looking forward to seeing how you leverage it next year, hope you'll clue us in on the value added to your program (not just robot).

Akash Rastogi 18-10-2013 00:23
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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1297123)
Looking forward to seeing how you leverage it next year, hope you'll clue us in on the value added to your program (not just robot).
I'd also like to hear about how many other teams you're able to help out with parts during the season thanks to the new machine.

Have fun with it!

CENTURION 18-10-2013 02:00
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Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 1297067)
We have a total of 7 mills and lathes, a Sharp minimill with a conveyer belt (new), and lots of other equipment already as well.
Maybe one day, we can get guys like Aren, Adam or Brandon to move to Hawaii and make use of all of our stuff.
I have dreams of even more stuff that I am working on. It wont happen overnight, but it will!
I guess you could say that's my "hobby" in the FRC program besides coaching and managing our program.
:eek:

Man, and we were barely able to scrape together $5,000 for a cheapo little chinese mill.

Seriously, what kind of institutions are you finding that are willing to shell out that kind of cash?

And hey, if you ever want to retire some machines, I'd be willing to adopt them :D

waialua359 18-10-2013 03:29
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1297124)
I'd also like to hear about how many other teams you're able to help out with parts during the season thanks to the new machine.

Have fun with it!
Akash, being that 2438 just got one, I'm sure they will be able to help out teams in Honolulu since they are close in proximity to a lot of Hawaii teams.
Whats impressive about Iolani is that the school spent 25+ million on the building and equipment and they are luring people from industry to becoming teachers at their STEM center.
The salaries alone we could never afford, such that our program is pretty close to 100% volunteer-based other than the equipment and materials we buy of course.

Team 3008 is already coming next week and Team 4158 plans to use it extensively during build season (our closest neighboring school).


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