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Natchez 17-10-2013 00:27

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.... next shutdown is scheduled for week 2 of build season .... our Congress is then scheduled to "reach a compromise" on "ship day"!

Very suspicious I must say :-),
Lucien

P.S. ..... and there is recent proof that Global Wobble is the sole reason for Global Warming.

AlexH 17-10-2013 00:35

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out of curiosity, if the government shuts down, do you lose your nasa funded build space?

Cory 17-10-2013 01:32

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Originally Posted by AlexH (Post 1296911)
out of curiosity, if the government shuts down, do you lose your nasa funded build space?

Yes. Only 500 of NASA's 18,000 employees had access to NASA facilities during the shutdown. Any teams working at NASA centers were locked out for the duration of the shutdown.

sanddrag 17-10-2013 01:54

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1296916)
Yes. Only 500 of NASA's 18,000 employees had access to NASA facilities during the shutdown. Any teams working at NASA centers were locked out for the duration of the shutdown.

Start digging a tunnel? :D

Calvin Hartley 17-10-2013 07:04

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1296916)
Yes. Only 500 of NASA's 18,000 employees had access to NASA facilities during the shutdown. Any teams working at NASA centers were locked out for the duration of the shutdown.

Just hide Krispy Kremes in your shop before leaving. That way there's at least one person that WILL find a way to get it. :D

techhelpbb 17-10-2013 08:44

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Sounds like for a shutdown NASA space of any sort is a problem ;)

If global wobble is the reason for global warming please everyone stop moving around.
The unintended consequence of not moving around might solve the issue either way.

Racer26 17-10-2013 10:08

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Most of the teams with NASA sponsored build spaces... 254 and 118 are the only ones coming to mind right now, but I know there's more. They're the kind of teams that will find a way around temporarily losing their space, not creating so much as a blip on everyone else's radar.

I'm certain that even if this shut down happens, 254, 118 and the other NASA build-space sponsored teams will still be every bit as successful as any other year.

FrankJ 17-10-2013 11:35

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Not to besmirch 118 or 254 but. Loosing your build space during build season would hurt any team. Especially working around not having access to tools & machining you were planing to have.

With the bad feed back both sides got from this shut down, I doubt there will be one in the winter.

Cory 17-10-2013 12:32

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Originally Posted by Racer26 (Post 1296960)
Most of the teams with NASA sponsored build spaces... 254 and 118 are the only ones coming to mind right now, but I know there's more. They're the kind of teams that will find a way around temporarily losing their space, not creating so much as a blip on everyone else's radar.

I'm certain that even if this shut down happens, 254, 118 and the other NASA build-space sponsored teams will still be every bit as successful as any other year.

Can't speak for 118/233 or other teams with shops on NASA property, but it would be a huge blow to us. We'd find a way but it would dramatically reduce what we'd be capable of doing.

Racer26 17-10-2013 13:09

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1296995)
Can't speak for 118/233 or other teams with shops on NASA property, but it would be a huge blow to us. We'd find a way but it would dramatically reduce what we'd be capable of doing.

I did not mean to minimize the blow that it would be. It absolutely would be a huge blow.

2013 saw many Ontario teams temporarily losing their support from the public school system. Many of them still competed, and were remarkably competitive where I expected them to flounder. I am sure this would be a similar outcome.

seg9585 17-10-2013 13:38

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I'm just curious -- it's a well known fact that the NASA employees were not allowed to volunteer their time to do work during the government shutdown (they weren't allowed to work for free). All public outreach was suspended.
Did that mean they also couldn't volunteer to mentor robotics during that timeframe?

JesseK 17-10-2013 13:48

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Originally Posted by seg9585 (Post 1297011)
I'm just curious -- it's a well known fact that the NASA employees were not allowed to volunteer their time to do work during the government shutdown (they weren't allowed to work for free). All public outreach was suspended.
Did that mean they also couldn't volunteer to mentor robotics during that timeframe?

What an employee does off company property isn't controllable by the company, or government. The employees probably couldn't do 'official' NASA outreach, but there's no stopping their mentoring efforts on a personal level.

seg9585 17-10-2013 14:02

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Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1297013)
What an employee does off company property isn't controllable by the company, or government. The employees probably couldn't do 'official' NASA outreach, but there's no stopping their mentoring efforts on a personal level.

Of course, but that means they also can't represent NASA in any way during that time period, for what its worth.

For any NASA employees here, did you spend your time off doing your own scientific research of interest, maybe even similar to your day job, despite the shutdown's regulations to not perform any work on behalf of NASA?

Jon Stratis 17-10-2013 14:16

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Originally Posted by Natchez (Post 1296910)
.... next shutdown is scheduled for week 2 of build season .... our Congress is then scheduled to "reach a compromise" on "ship day"!

Very suspicious I must say :-),
Lucien

P.S. ..... and there is recent proof that Global Wobble is the sole reason for Global Warming.

hmmm... maybe congress is trying to learn from the best - a 6-week (or less) "build season" to keep the government going!

techhelpbb 17-10-2013 15:52

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Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1297020)
hmmm... maybe congress is trying to learn from the best - a 6-week (or less) "build season" to keep the government going!

I am subtracting coopertition points. :o

FrankJ 17-10-2013 16:05

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Throw out the entire lot for lack of GP!! ::ouch::

mdiradoorian 17-10-2013 16:54

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Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1297020)
hmmm... maybe congress is trying to learn from the best - a 6-week (or less) "build season" to keep the government going!

To bad they have a tough time on agreeing on something.

Michael Hill 17-10-2013 17:50

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Originally Posted by mdiradoorian (Post 1297040)
To bad they have a tough time on agreeing on something.

If congress were building an FRC robot, it would take them 8 weeks to decide which robot controller to use.

synth3tk 17-10-2013 18:51

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Originally Posted by Michael Hill (Post 1297042)
If congress were building an FRC robot, it would take them 8 weeks to decide which robot controller to use.

No, you're going about it all wrong. They'd spend all build season finding the most ridiculous loopholes and rules, then trying to disqualify every other team in the competition, without even building a robot of their own.

Nobody wins, but at least they made the other teams look bad.

EricH 17-10-2013 19:09

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Originally Posted by mdiradoorian (Post 1297040)
To bad they have a tough time on agreeing on something.

On the contrary, they have far too easy a time agreeing on something. A couple of things, actually.

"We disagree!" and "It's THEIR fault!", to be exact.

Now if only they could agree to pass a budget, and stick to it...

Andrew Lawrence 17-10-2013 19:15

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1296995)
Can't speak for 118/233 or other teams with shops on NASA property, but it would be a huge blow to us. We'd find a way but it would dramatically reduce what we'd be capable of doing.

Does this mean we'll get to see Overkill at Madtown in a few weeks?

Cory 18-10-2013 02:17

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Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence (Post 1297061)
Does this mean we'll get to see Overkill at Madtown in a few weeks?

Yes. We will be competing in Madera.

mdiradoorian 18-10-2013 02:43

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1297059)
On the contrary, they have far too easy a time agreeing on something. A couple of things, actually.

"We disagree!" and "It's THEIR fault!", to be exact.

Now if only they could agree to pass a budget, and stick to it...

OMG I knew someone would say this!

DampRobot 18-10-2013 03:11

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1297132)
Yes. We will be competing in Madera.

And so follows the combination of "sick!" and "aw man..." that comes when I hear we're competing against 254...

Calvin Hartley 18-10-2013 07:17

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As Tim Hawkins, a comedian tweeted....

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Originally Posted by Tim Hawkins
Finally, this big government shutdown business is over so we can get back to the big government letdown.


Andrew Lawrence 18-10-2013 09:29

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Originally Posted by DampRobot (Post 1297134)
And so follows the combination of "sick!" and "aw man..." that comes when I hear we're competing against 254...

It'll be a tough competition for sure, but I always love seeing them compete (dat climb doe).


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