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Re: FRC Blogged-Standard District Point Structure
OK, my turn to chime in... yay!
The point system is, at it's core, the same as the one used in MAR last year, with a few exceptions. Of course, I've got a little bit of stick-in-the-mud syndrome over a few of the changes and I really like some others: Quote:
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Not a big fan. So, basically, teams going into MAR CMP will know it's a win-or-go-home event. Let's see... 6 point-bids in 2013, with an average of 2-3 going away because of District teams winning outside Regionals. It becomes just a Regional now, with both the winners and finalists going to World's. Other Districts with more teams might be different, but this one line really gives the shaft to the MAR CMP event. If this is the case, then I recommend that MAR expand by co-opting Maryland before they form a district with DC and northern VA. To be honest, I think a better way to do this particular item would be to just ban teams from going to outside Regionals. |
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I've been lurking on this thread since the start but here's my first comment in it so far:
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Barring district teams from Regionals would inconvenience the few teams that attend them, but you could argue that barring non-district teams from district events is comparable, if not worse. |
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And I disagree, the two district events would not be at all pointless. Where better to get great driver practice and find ways to improve your robot than at competitions to 'warm up' for your World Championship qualifying event, especially if your performance at the districts wouldn't matter? I can almost see it...there...on the horizon... |
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11, 25, 87, 341, 365, 2016, and I think 1676 was wait listed for NYC. Some of these teams have expressed some interest in traveling again next year. Not sure about Michigan besides from 245 who was also at Palmetto. And I know some other teams from NE and PNW traveled outside of their general area last year as well. Yes, regional teams do not get the added benefit that a district system brings, but they are much less limited in terms of where they have to compete and when (no MAR events Week 2 or Week 6, and only one each on Weeks 4 + 5). I may be biased as a travel ban would affect my team, but I still believe that there are better courses of action than an all out travel ban. |
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Honestly, the system works in the sense that only X MAR teams, Y Michigan teams, ect, will be at CMP regardless of where they earn their slot. I agree with this. For a couple years there is the possibility of teams going outside district systems and winning, thus 'cutting in line' so to speak in the district rankings to swap a spot away. But that problem will go away in time as everyone moves to districts.
I'm honestly more concerned about this rookie 10pt rule. And the fact that when inter-district play is allowed, who wants to travel to some random highschool gym. |
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If for example when Canada goes to the district model and potentially New York down the road I can see a lot of inter-district play between MAR-NY-NE-CAN. Other areas like PNW-CAN, PNW-CA, MI-CAN, etc might also see more border play. |
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Overall I'm very happy to see that there's a common points system for districts. As has been noted, people should take a step back and realize that inter-district play is the big payoff here. People have been talking about the problem of being locked into your districts for years, and knowing that FIRST wants to open that up in 2015 is great news. I'm assuming we'll eventually make our way into a district system, and I'm very happy to know that we'll still be able to choose which direction we travel and switch it up from year to year.
Giving rookies a slight point advantage without handing them a free pass seems like the right move. And I like the small second year team bonus. All this does is make it a bit more likely that some rookies will appear in the district championship events. Overall, it's a much better system than automatically qualifying a rookie at every event and ending up with 1/6 rookies at the next level of competition, regardless of how well those rookies competed. |
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