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savage 22-11-2013 03:02

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Hi, is there any way we can cut down on the number of users posting spam for movies and such. In all my years on the forums I have never seen so many spammers until now.

Feel free to close this if u want I just wanted to put this out there.

Cant wait to see what this years FRC game will bring us. I did not have a chance to volunteer this past year.

Ben White

Hallry 22-11-2013 07:00

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Originally Posted by savage (Post 1304432)
Hi, is there any way we can cut down on the number of users posting spam for movies and such.

It's easier said than done.

Qbot2640 22-11-2013 08:28

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Originally Posted by savage (Post 1304432)
Hi, is there any way we can cut down on the number of users posting spam for movies and such. In all my years on the forums I have never seen so many spammers until now.

Feel free to close this if u want I just wanted to put this out there.

Cant wait to see what this years FRC game will bring us. I did not have a chance to volunteer this past year.

Ben White

Why is this the case? I can't figure out why someone goes through the trouble of posting something that is going to cause a slight nuisance, be largely ignored, and then fairly quickly removed.:confused:

colin340 22-11-2013 09:05

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i sorta enjoy seeing the spammers waste they time and try to come up with new subject lines. Also there is always the hunt to be the first to report and that fun!

Domenic Rodriguez 22-11-2013 10:23

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Question: if a new spammer posts multiple threads and one of the threads has already been reported, is it worth it to report the other threads as well? Just thinking that the mods probably don't need several reports about the same spammer...

Tom Line 23-11-2013 11:35

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1. Why they do it.

Search results. Search engines score search results. If you can place multiple links to your site on a well-scored site like Chief Delphi, that raises the score of your own website. That's why a lot of these posts are just dozens of links to the same site. Repeat this thousands or tens of thousands of times and you can boost your site and get the hits you want. Usually to download malware of some sort.

2. Should we report it?

Yes. Every time. Because there is a que of reported items that let mods click through quickly and remove each one. Otherwise they have to guess or stumble across the posts themselves.

Michael Hill 23-11-2013 13:20

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Originally Posted by Tom Line (Post 1304882)
1. Why they do it.
Search results. Search engines score search results. If you can place multiple links to your site on a well-scored site like Chief Delphi, that raises the score of your own website. That's why a lot of these posts are just dozens of links to the same site. Repeat this thousands or tens of thousands of times and you can boost your site and get the hits you want. Usually to download malware of some sort.

Fortunately this isn't the case anymore. In fact, Google punishes sites that are linked to like this now.

cbale2000 23-11-2013 14:36

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IMO, the simple thing to do would be to just require moderator approval of the first 3-5 posts of any new member like many other forums do. It would mean people wouldn't have to report spambots anymore and their posts would never show up to the general public.

joelg236 23-11-2013 15:17

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9 / 25 are spam. Are moderators just too busy right now (I'm sure there'd be more volunteers if that's the case)? I've never seen Delphi like this before. I'm curious what has changed (if something has).

I know that Brandon has enabled some spam blocking, but clearly it isn't working well enough for a clean experience.

Anupam Goli 23-11-2013 19:05

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The last two nights were completely awful in terms of spam posts. I'm used to seeing a bit more in the offseason, since during the season there are so many new topics made it crowds out the spam users posting, but the screenshot joel posted just shows how ridiculous the spam attack last night was. I feel like the spammers are starting to hit harder. It really is time for an upgrade to the spam prevention system.

yash101 23-11-2013 19:22

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This site has a database of spammers. They also have some plugins, that can guard against spam! It is useful to block users from signing up, preventing spam users, in the first place!
http://stopforumspam.com/contributions

Brandon_L 23-11-2013 20:53

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Originally Posted by colin340 (Post 1304483)
i sorta enjoy seeing the spammers waste they time and try to come up with new subject lines. Also there is always the hunt to be the first to report and that fun!

Indeed, I absolutely love reporting it. I like to get creative with it. ASCII art, memes, ect. Usually Doge 'Wow much spam so report wow'.

Man, I have to much time on my hands.

Mike Schreiber 24-11-2013 00:15

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Originally Posted by cbale2000 (Post 1304923)
IMO, the simple thing to do would be to just require moderator approval of the first 3-5 posts of any new member like many other forums do. It would mean people wouldn't have to report spambots anymore and their posts would never show up to the general public.

I really dislike this idea. If a person new to FIRST has a question this is the easiest place to go to get it answered quickly and having to await approval for a post to go up creates a barrier to entry (whether it be 30 seconds that it takes for approval or 2 hours) If I see "Your post is awaiting approval from an administrator" after I make an account on that site I get pretty annoyed.

joelg236 24-11-2013 00:52

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Originally Posted by ICanCountTo19 (Post 1305108)
I really dislike this idea. If a person new to FIRST has a question this is the easiest place to go to get it answered quickly and having to await approval for a post to go up creates a barrier to entry (whether it be 30 seconds that it takes for approval or 2 hours) If I see "Your post is awaiting approval from an administrator" after I make an account on that site I get pretty annoyed.

Exactly. Although it technically would solve the problem, it certainly creates a lot of harm. Our rookies often get turned off by the "wait 24 hours" rule anyways. Most of them make an account and never check it again because they completely forget after posting and waiting.

Cory 24-11-2013 01:31

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Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1304932)

9 / 25 are spam. Are moderators just too busy right now (I'm sure there'd be more volunteers if that's the case)? I've never seen Delphi like this before. I'm curious what has changed (if something has).

I know that Brandon has enabled some spam blocking, but clearly it isn't working well enough for a clean experience.

We're two revs behind on vBulletin. I'm no webmaster but I frequent some other vBulletin based sites with zero spam and I'm pretty sure they're version 4/5.

joelg236 24-11-2013 01:49

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1305125)
We're two revs behind on vBulletin. I'm no webmaster but I frequent some other vBulletin based sites with zero spam and I'm pretty sure they're version 4/5.

I'm assuming there are known "exploits" to get around this version's spam filters then?

JohnBoucher 24-11-2013 08:05

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Keep reporting the spam. The admins will delete it as soon as they can.

I would hate to see controls put on new users. Anyone should be able to post links and ask questions. Anyone that is smart enough read CD is smart enough to ignore the spam.

There is an upgrade in the works. We can deal with the spam until then.

magnets 24-11-2013 08:13

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What if, when 10 users who all had >100 posts marked something as spam, it would automatically disappear from chief delphi. Then, when a moderator would check for spam, they could choose to permanently delete these posts, or instead they could mark them as not spam, and they would return to normal.

Brandon Martus 25-11-2013 11:09

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I'll be installing a quick anti-spam mod today or tomorrow to try & keep spam under control until I can upgrade the forums. CD-Media is the last thing I need to account for before I can upgrade vBulletin. Bear with me.

JohnBoucher 25-11-2013 11:11

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Sweet!

DonRotolo 25-11-2013 14:34

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Just put all users with 3 posts or less into a special group, who cannot add hyperlinks to their posts or signatures. Kinda defeats the spammer's goals.

Brandon Martus 25-11-2013 15:13

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It should be doing that already. Users should have to be registered for 60 days and have 3 posts before they're able to post anything with a link (post or signature). Apparently that's broke -- I'll have to look into it.

Edit: Apparently that link permission is only for signatures. I'm going to test the anti-spam module tonight or tomorrow night; we'll see if that takes care of a majority of the problem.

BigJ 25-11-2013 15:28

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Originally Posted by Brandon Martus (Post 1305679)
It should be doing that already. Users should have to be registered for 60 days and have 3 posts before they're able to post anything with a link (post or signature). Apparently that's broke -- I'll have to look into it.

Edit: Apparently that link permission is only for signatures. I'm going to test the anti-spam module tonight or tomorrow night; we'll see if that takes care of a majority of the problem.

Could it be that they can't post links, but CAN edit links in? I've noticed a few of the spam posts with only a short piece of text, then later filled with the links.

Joe Ross 25-11-2013 15:35

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Originally Posted by BigJ (Post 1305684)
Could it be that they can't post links, but CAN edit links in? I've noticed a few of the spam posts with only a short piece of text, then later filled with the links.

That is correct.

DonRotolo 25-11-2013 17:01

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Wow that is sneaky.

I wonder what the folks who post these get paid? Maybe we can find a new fundraising opportunity here? :rolleyes:

GaryVoshol 25-11-2013 19:09

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I did get to delete 3 posts caught by the filter today!

joelg236 25-11-2013 19:32

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Not sure if Brandon made some changes to the system yet, but it appears as though no spam is coming in today.

Gregor 25-11-2013 20:02

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Originally Posted by joelg236 (Post 1305839)
Not sure if Brandon made some changes to the system yet, but it appears as though no spam is coming in today.

And 2 show up within half an hour of that post.

Don't tempt fate :rolleyes:

joelg236 25-11-2013 23:53

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Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1305864)
And 2 show up within half an hour of that post.

Don't tempt fate :rolleyes:

Darn.

Well good news though. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=122335


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