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tim-tim 05-12-2013 21:39

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Answer42 (Post 1309116)
Does that difference in wheel size cause faster wear on the wheels because of difference in speed? I ask because I noticed 118 had a lot chunks taken out of their wheels at SVR before they replaced them.

Theoretically with the center 2 wheels larger than the outer sets and the CG of the robot is between the center axles they are the only set of wheels in contact with the ground; with the exception of directional changes and rapid acceleration changes where those outer set of wheels technically act as a powered wheelie bar.

Yes, there will be some pulling/dragging of wheels for brief moments due to difference in diameters. With this setup you should expect your center 2 wheels to wear faster than the outer set of wheels.

I cannot speak for the 118 specific wear issue though.

sarah_storer 05-12-2013 22:35

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
I'm having some issues seeing the file. After I download it, it won't open in AutoCAD...

T^2 05-12-2013 22:43

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
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Originally Posted by sarah_storer (Post 1309137)
I'm having some issues seeing the file. After I download it, it won't open in AutoCAD...

Not sure if joke, but you'll need a 3D parametric CAD program such as SolidWorks, Inventor, or Creo, plus a lot of RAM (around 12 gigs at least for 2013 model).

sarah_storer 05-12-2013 22:54

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
I wish it was a joke. I'm completely new to the Autodesk world and was hoping that by looking at some quality work I might be able to learn something.

Chadfrom308 05-12-2013 22:58

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
I have a few questions:

How long did it take to make the autocad file?
How long did it take to cut out all the parts and powdercoat them?
How long did it take to assemble?
How long did it take to make the code?
Who worked on it? (NASA engineers, students, teachers)?

Chris_Ely 05-12-2013 23:07

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
Very nice detailed model!

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Originally Posted by sarah_storer (Post 1309142)
I wish it was a joke. I'm completely new to the Autodesk world and was hoping that by looking at some quality work I might be able to learn something.

If you are a student, you can download Autodesk Inventor free from: http://www.autodesk.com/education/student-software.
You will need a good computer though. Any 3D CAD software needs a dedicated graphics card and lots of RAM. The 2013 Robonaught model took up 7GB when I opened it.

sarah_storer 05-12-2013 23:14

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Thank you for the link! I already have AutoCAD but I couldn't find Inventor on their website.
I also recently bought a wonderful HP built specifically for CAD and my programming needs so I think I'll be okay:)

BrendanB 05-12-2013 23:55

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
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Originally Posted by sarah_storer (Post 1309155)
Thank you for the link! I already have AutoCAD but I couldn't find Inventor on their website.
I also recently bought a wonderful HP built specifically for CAD and my programming needs so I think I'll be okay:)

If you following Chris's (luckof13) link, click on free software on the left-hand side then scroll down to "Inventor Professional" and select the one you want.

Let us know if that doesn't work! :)

Starke 17-12-2013 14:10

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
Excerpt from FRC Designs: http://frcdesigns.com/2013/12/17/rob...n-frc-designs/

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Robonauts (FRC118) Join FRC Designs!

Robonauts | FRC 118 | www.ccisdrobonauts.org

FRC Designs is excited to announce a new partnership with FRC118, The Robonauts! The Robonauts are regarded as one of the most inspirational teams in all of FIRST. Teams study their designs and are always amazed at how they solve competition challenges. The Robonauts have graciously allowed FRC Designs to host the designs from the past three season (2013, 2012, and 2011).

Fore More Information: Check out the links below for the robot information cluding CAD and Videos. More information on their designs can be seen on their website (Link Above) and a Chief Delphi Thread (Seen Here).

2013 – Apex (CAD/Video Link)



2012 – Endeavor (CAD/Video Link)



2011 – Magic (CAD/Video Link)



ajlapp 17-12-2013 14:20

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
FYI...

We've updated the CAD files available on our website.

Our robot changed quite a bit during the season, so we uploaded a file of the robot at the 6 week ship date and one from Championships.

magnets 17-12-2013 14:31

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
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Originally Posted by ajlapp (Post 1313772)
FYI...

We've updated the CAD files available on our website.

Our robot changed quite a bit during the season, so we uploaded a file of the robot at the 6 week ship date and one from Championships.

Thanks!

Just a quick question, what was the "double hang" assembly? Was it ever used?

Saberbot 17-12-2013 15:22

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tim-tim (Post 1309128)
Theoretically with the center 2 wheels larger than the outer sets and the CG of the robot is between the center axles they are the only set of wheels in contact with the ground; with the exception of directional changes and rapid acceleration changes where those outer set of wheels technically act as a powered wheelie bar.

Yes, there will be some pulling/dragging of wheels for brief moments due to difference in diameters. With this setup you should expect your center 2 wheels to wear faster than the outer set of wheels.

I cannot speak for the 118 specific wear issue though.

I've always been curious about how this affects pushing matches. In a pushing match there will be a much larger force on these wheel and it's crucial that they keep traction. Wouldn't it be impossible to maintain static friction on both of these wheels in this instance?

cadandcookies 17-12-2013 16:36

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
Just wanted to express my gratitude to 118 for releasing these models. They really are the sort of thing one can get lost exploring. The depth is just amazing.

ajlapp 17-12-2013 18:32

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Just a quick question, what was the "double hang" assembly? Was it ever used?
That was a device to achieve a second rung hand using only stored energy.

The device was built and tested on a practice robot but never made the field.

Answer42 18-12-2013 01:14

Re: Robonauts CAD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajlapp (Post 1313871)
That was a device to achieve a second rung hand using only stored energy.

The device was built and tested on a practice robot but never made the field.

That sounds really cool. As I recall the only other team that attempted a stored energy climber past the first rung this year was 1323. Anything you can tell us about the design of the mechanism or why it wasn't implemented?


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