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connor.worley 17-12-2013 18:16

Re: [Ri3D] Help BOOM DONE. order stuff
 
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Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 1313864)
zip wire? I am not sure that my EE folks are okay with this idea.

Do a lot of teams use zip wire?

Joe J.

We mostly live on nonglossy zip cord.

Thad House 17-12-2013 18:18

Re: [Ri3D] Help BOOM DONE. order stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 1313864)
zip wire? I am not sure that my EE folks are okay with this idea.

Do a lot of teams use zip wire?

Joe J.

The teams I have been on have used zipwire and Powerpoles for years and love them. The Zipwire is really nice for organizing, and makes long wire runs if needed much easier. Plus all the zipwire I've worked with is usually more flexible at the same gauge then single wire, because all zipwire I have seen uses smaller strands. Alot of teams around here use zipwire too.

Joe Ross 17-12-2013 18:37

Re: [Ri3D] Help BOOM DONE. order stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 1313864)
zip wire? I am not sure that my EE folks are okay with this idea.

Do a lot of teams use zip wire?

I have not yet drunk the Anderson PowerPoles Kool-Aid, but have wholeheartedly embraced the zip wire Kool-Aid. We use Mcmaster 9697T4.

Joe Johnson 17-12-2013 18:46

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Window motors!
Where am I going to get Denso window motors? They are only 20-30 Watts but sometimes they are the PERFECT motor for the job -- and they are not backdriveable. Well, mostly non-backdriveabel. I remember 177 had a huge and awesome ball gripper in 1996. I think it was driven by two window motors and, to my great surprise at the time, if their arm was horizontal when the power when off, that gripper fell!

Anyway, I have no idea what sort of robot we'll be designing but odds are I will want some of those Denso motors. Any teams in the Boston Area willing to loan/donate a couple to BOOM DONE.?

PM me. I promise a shout out to you in one of our videos, whether we use them or not.

Joe J.

AllenGregoryIV 17-12-2013 20:13

Re: [Ri3D] Help BOOM DONE. order stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 1313879)
Window motors!
Where am I going to get Denso window motors? They are only 20-30 Watts but sometimes they are the PERFECT motor for the job -- and they are not backdriveable. Well, mostly non-backdriveabel. I remember 177 had a huge and awesome ball gripper in 1996. I think it was driven by two window motors and, to my great surprise at the time, if their arm was horizontal when the power when off, that gripper fell!

Anyway, I have no idea what sort of robot we'll be designing but odds are I will want some of those Denso motors. Any teams in the Boston Area willing to loan/donate a couple to BOOM DONE.?

PM me. I promise a shout out to you in one of our videos, whether we use them or not.

Joe J.

I have a couple I can send you if no one up there responds. We don't use them often enough to keep them around and if we need them I can get them from other local teams.

Joe Johnson 17-12-2013 22:37

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Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1313959)
I have a couple I can send you if no one up there responds. We don't use them often enough to keep them around and if we need them I can get them from other local teams.

Thanks. Also, for the record it was 1998, not 1996 that The Bobcats had that awesome ball roller gripper thingy that we powered by two (I think two) window motors. That was the year we first had swerve, Chief Delphi won all three Regionals that year and not coincidentally the last year FIRST used the 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 format... It seems like it was only yesterday...

Hey Kid! Get off my lawn!!!

Joe J.

Al Skierkiewicz 18-12-2013 07:23

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Joe,
Check here... http://electronics.mcmelectronics.co...p+wire&x=0&y=0
This is NOT your normal zip cord.
And 1996 was not that long ago...

yash101 18-12-2013 08:10

Re: [Ri3D] Help BOOM DONE. order stuff
 
Zip-ties! They allow you to easily fasten things like wires to different structural components, cleaning up your electrical and some other stuff up!

Tom Line 18-12-2013 15:52

Re: [Ri3D] Help BOOM DONE. order stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 1313864)
zip wire? I am not sure that my EE folks are okay with this idea.

Do a lot of teams use zip wire?

Joe J.

We've used it the last two years with fantastic results. The extremely soft and flexible loudspeaker / speaker wire is much nicer to work with the than the standard multi-stranded wire you'd purchase.

In our experience, the softer insulation does sacrifice something when it comes to chafe resistance, but if you're hoping the insulation doesn't chafe through in an application, then you're doing it wrong.

Joe Johnson 18-12-2013 22:12

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Ok. I spoke with the EE folk and we're a go. Zip wire it is. BOOM DONE.

sanddrag 18-12-2013 23:33

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Joe, I remember you helping me out with drill motors in 2003. I have a few different types of window motors. Let me know what you need and I'll send them Priority Mail.

Peter Matteson 20-12-2013 10:39

Re: [Ri3D] Help BOOM DONE. order stuff
 
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Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 1314016)
Thanks. Also, for the record it was 1998, not 1996 that The Bobcats had that awesome ball roller gripper thingy that we powered by two (I think two) window motors. That was the year we first had swerve, Chief Delphi won all three Regionals that year and not coincidentally the last year FIRST used the 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 format... It seems like it was only yesterday...

Hey Kid! Get off my lawn!!!

Joe J.

I was about to correct you on that.
Also we still have that robot in storage. I wish we had the control system to run it.
Through the miracle of CD here is a picture of the claw you mentioned.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/13367

We used derivatives of that design through about 2005.

Tom Line 20-12-2013 15:27

Re: [Ri3D] Help BOOM DONE. order stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 1314016)
Thanks. Also, for the record it was 1998, not 1996 that The Bobcats had that awesome ball roller gripper thingy that we powered by two (I think two) window motors. That was the year we first had swerve, Chief Delphi won all three Regionals that year and not coincidentally the last year FIRST used the 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 format... It seems like it was only yesterday...

Hey Kid! Get off my lawn!!!

Joe J.

We have a bunch as well and we picked up a host of the couplers during FIRST Choice last year. The motors are very useful for simple mechanisms. The internal worms tend to break if you backdrive too hard though :D

Joe Johnson 20-12-2013 23:59

Re: [Ri3D] Help BOOM DONE. order stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Matteson (Post 1314960)
I was about to correct you on that.
Also we still have that robot in storage. I wish we had the control system to run it.
Through the miracle of CD here is a picture of the claw you mentioned.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/13367

We used derivatives of that design through about 2005.

Wow. That picture made my heart start racing. I remember seeing that middle goal fill up SO fast when you guys were on the field. I'd blink and there was no more room to score. That was a fearsome robot.

Remember the Nationals that year with the Losers Bracket from Hell? We were knocked out early, but then about 10 amazing teams all dumped in there at the same level. I think you guys were in there, and Wildstang, and Beatty, and TechnoKats, ... That was a bracket for the Ages.

Joe J.


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