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Decimal to ascii give me this:
‚4/W, a/c, b2/€

From Chinese to Latin gives me:
? IV / w / C, B2 /?

From binary to ascii to latin:
(VIII)CCXXXIV / LVII, VI? XXVI / CMLXIII, (LXII)CCCXXVI /? LVIII qa

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i feel like a third alliance is improbable unless they change the number of teams on each alliance to 2. they already have the locations of all of the events and most of them cant have the field that much larger.

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I just want to point out that 8234, 57, 61126, 1962, 62326, 15806, are all asteroids in the asteroid belt.

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=8234+Nobeoka

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...cad=0#phys_par

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...d=0#phys_p ar

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...d=0#phys_pa r

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...d=0#phys_p ar

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...d=0#phys_p ar

This could be nothing, or maybe a game with a lot of game pieces?

I have run a lot of factor stuff, and tried to find if any numbers could work in a nihilist cipher, but so far nothing. Numbers are tricky, so much can be contained in so little.

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Green alliance = 4- H

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That is true. What interests me is that in the green screen photo with dean and woody, the triangle the water bottles make have the same incline on the bottom points similar to the points when plotted. The scaling was off on the original graph but if you plug in ratios such as 4.6, then the triangle looks similar to the alignment of waterbottles. Not fullproof theory at all but it holds up slightly I think.

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I just found it on google, it was a traffic law for Illinois if I remeber correctly.
This is the link if you want to check it out.
http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/S...14/31-14-3.HTM

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Or green = recycle = an old game brought back

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Is this common practice for the images they release, or are they lying to us?

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green could be something referring to the environment like going green. we saw this type of further message with ultimate accent last year because they where comparing it with life's challenges

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Since it appears that green might be big. The camera light on first choice is also green as opposed to any other color. And could those be referencing something related to a baseball field?

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This supports what I seem to remember reading (way back) that no students this year have had robots that handled more than 4 game pieces at a time. I like the thought of having a high quantity game.

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Is there any way you could verify these hex codes? Cause I've been to a couple different sites and they all seem to have different colors for these numbers. Also, what decimal did you stop at?

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I noticed that this thread is Chief Delphi topic 123456 (seriously, check your address bar). Tried to apply CD thread numbers to the numbers in the hint...no go.

ISO 61126 deals with lamps, ISO 62326 deals with PCBs. Not sure if there's a hint there.

8234/57 seems like a plausible number of points scored (8234) in total by a number of teams (57). I'll throw out this wild idea: say there are 57 teams remaining from 1997 (I don't know that to be a fact, but it's plausible), and those teams scored a combined 8234 points that year. ...so we're playing a re-make of Toroid Terror this year. (No, I'm not being serious. But, if I'm right give me credit ;))

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Guys, if it is a water game... Water can take many forms keep in mind! It could be ice, it could actually be water. I'm willing to bet its a hockey game... This is probably gonna keep me up all night :eek:

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Old game brought back+ asteroids + doctor who= lunacy

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H-....How-....How does green = baseball field? ::rtm::

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And we all have little green lights right next to our usernames. :ahh:

Maybe... we are the game hint.

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Sometimes I wonder if the Game Committee comes here after releasing a hint and just sit back and laugh at all the crazy things we come up with. One thing's for sure, FIRST students are very creative and good and stretching vague stragglers of information into wild guesses. But that's all part of the fun.

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Air hockey using three sides

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After I just copied and pasted these numbers into wolfram alpha, It seemed to think that these were spherical coordinate points, where the first element was an r, the second was yaw and the third was azimuth.

Don't most number based game hints involve some kind of mathematical or physics-related relationship for that years game?

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Solid, liquid, gas.... 3 forms of water.

3 has seemed to appear many times. Water game confirmed.

(sorry, I had to :rolleyes: )

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Well I wasn't relating green with baseball. Perhaps the triangle that is formed has something to do with baseball.

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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know who the third person in that photo is?

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I've figured out the second number's possible relation to a FIRST supplier. In Rockford, IL (zip code 61126), Gates Rubber Co. announced construction of a factory. This company is now known as Gates Corporation and is the supplier of kit of parts timing belts.

Unfortunately, the current zip code of the Rockford plant is 61109, but there's always the possibility that it was different in 1963, or that the hint was just referring to the city.

I'll work on the third and then give up on this ridiculous witch hunt soon enough.

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green could refer to any other sports field thats played on grass.

I was thinking maybe the ground would be artificial or turf.... but the more I think about it the more messier it seems.

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Holy cow! That's not the least bit suspicious at all

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Please tell me we get to play Golf!

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The game will be a re-do of Aim High but with footballs and a different end game.

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Assuming they're equations, these are their answers in sig figs:
140
31.14
3.9432

If you'll notice, these three numbers, written in the order as they appear in the game hint, can be put in the shape of a pyramid as so:



Something that may catch your eye is that if you take the same arrangement of digits and add them together, you get the preceding number in the bottom row.



Which means that the only two digits remaining are...



I rest my case.

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Jan 4th 1963- Soviet Luna (4) reaches Earth orbit but fails to reach Moon

Lunacy guys.
Green alliance.

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Well we've got the answer, now what's the question? :D

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Rockford Peaches - "There's no crying in [robot] baseball!"

LOL, sorry, couldn't resist jumping on the baseball bandwagon! :p

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http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=YCbCr_4:2:0. Do these numbers mean anything in YCbCr color space code?

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Yep the game this year is going to be a Cheif Delphi Forum game. We are going to have to rely messages to each other to. (This is not serious, but that sounds like it would be a very hard game to put points to.)

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Oh man, I laughed so hard when I got to the end of this post.

+1

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Searching Google for the 61126 zip code I got this thing:

And going on youtube looking for 'Rockford 1963' I got to this video.
I don't know about you but imo drones would be a pretty cool concept.

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the thing with a football shooting game is there are already really nice football throwing machines and i feel like first likes us creating things that aren't already made for a mass market

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Dave Lavery just tweeted this:

Three miles! Is this a very subtle hint, about the number 3?

(Sorry Mr. Lavery. You were bound to be roped into this at some point.)

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Leave that to the college kids :rolleyes: http://collegiateaerialrobotics.org/

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I swore to myself that I wouldn't post.

I think there will be three alliances, the third one being green.
Hence the water bottles and a coordinate system clue.

Three or four years ago at the CMP they showed a third color implying a three alliance competition in the future.

I think that suggestion has come true.

If so, the question is how many teams on each alliance?
2v2v2 or 3v3v3.

I think they transitioned us to smaller perimeters last year to prepare us for a crowded field of 9 robots.
Tough in smaller district competitions for match scheduling, so, maybe the matches will be longer this year.

Maybe autonomous will be at the end?

Or in the middle.
Driving in a circle stacking tetras on our opponents.
With well hung Ubertubes and a bridge over a tunnel.
2x Bonus balls on a stairway to heaven.
Each alliance will form a pyramid with one robot climbing on the other two.
Big Coopertition points if all nine robots climb on each other.
And there will be regolith. Covered with corn.
For the endgame each alliance will drive into the pits and knock over their opponents totes and steal their batteries.

I'm still working on the point values.
And each team should start prototyping a TARDIS.

Remember, you heard it here FIRST

Oh yeah, almost forgot.
SuperSoakers to short out your opponents electrical system.


When's the next ChiefDelphi Anonymous meeting? :D

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I saw the reference to "Who" and I saw something someone said about The Who, so I searched it on Google. I clicked on their Wikipedia page, hit Ctrl+F and searched for "1963". The only result was a list of performances from The Who (even though they were not officially "The Who" yet) from 1962-1963.

On Friday, December 20, 1963, The Who performed at Forest Hill, England. What I found interesting--and slightly startling--They performed multiple times there, but in the listing for Friday, December 20, Hill is spelled with three L's.

Just thought it was interesting.

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Guys!
Here's the shitz:
Here are the points mapped in a Cartesian coordinate system:

Here's the photo from the kickoff filming blog post:


Take a look at the shape of the water bottles on the floor! Odd, euh?

3 bottles, 3 people. 2 green screens, 2 red lights, 2 blue lights = 3 alliances of 2 teams each!

Now what's more?
Woodie and Don Bossi are sitting whilst Dean is standing. Two Bottles are on the floor and one is lifted. Can it mean anything?!

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I don't think the challenge would be throwing/shooting the balls, but picking up and storing them without jamming.

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A flying game would be cool. Nobody ever said our drive system ever had to stay on the ground. (but that could get dangerous... spinning blades of death-type situations are good to avoid)

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And look, their stools form a triangle too!

It's almost like any non-linear arrays of points we find makes a triangle! That sounds an awful lot like geometry!

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OR OR OR.... 2 alliances of 3 teams each! Man, wouldn't that be crazy?!?

:rolleyes:

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In that case it could be

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You seem to be clinically insane good sir...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/57_%28number%29
Interesting stuff here.

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You sir, have an eye for the details.

Is that an Altoids tin on the ground in front of Woodie? Does anybody know how many Altoids are in a regular size tin? After some quick google searching I came up with many different numbers that appeared to be guesses, the most credible looking was about 70. High quantity game piece maybe? Will we be placing them in bins of some sort?

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I feel like if there was ever a third alliance it'd be the White alliance to go with FIRST colors.



What tends to happen in 3 alliance matches though is that 2 alliances will just gang up on the remaining one.

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Mabey the game is about the most efficient robot it is the way of the future more efficient the better. So my thought is the games are longer and require more energy "One thing you will not see in the award section is the return of the 3D Design and Animation award. I haven’t given up on this yet, but we are running out of time to put this in place for the 2014 season. This sounds like it should be a simple thing, but every award has lots of moving parts that need to work together. I’ll let you know one way or the other when the decision on this award is finalized." Lots of moving parts working together efficiency

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I don't know if the hint has anything to do with zip codes but it is just awesome to have my city brought up in a FIRST setting.

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I'm surprised no one has brought up the change made to the KOP drive train this year and how they refused to reveal any details on it because it would be related to the game.
Then again I still see no way of applying this to the game hint.

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What if it is a WATER bottle game? FIRST has had complaints for some time about game pieces not being easily obtainable. Green = recycling.

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3 alliances (blue, red, green), each with 2 robots

Hockey

Regolith surface



Yup, sounds about right to me.

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I feel like at this point last year we made a LOT more progress than we have this year on the game hint.... XD

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I highly doubt 3 alliances...FIRST would more than likely have to re-make fields more than likely to maybe triangle that aloud for the 3rd alliance of 2 teams to be together so communication is achievable. That being said, someone would have commented on here by now about a huge change such as ALL FIRST fields being changed into a new formation other than the rectangle.

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What??? Zero progress is still progress.
Just like "I am in shape, round is a shape."

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Ladder Logic (1998)


Hexagon Havoc (1996)


I think that FIRST holds the right to change anything at a moments notice. It's not "Official" really that the fields have to be rectangular, it just makes things easier and simple. FIRST might want to make things less simple.

Also, the yellow from Hexagon Havoc suggestions a Yellow alliance would be more fitting. Primary colors.

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Only thing I've noticed so far is that since the last two fraction-like things each have a common factor (13 and 2 respectively) it's probably not the decimal expansion that is significant. But if the decimal expansion were to be significant, the first one has an 18 digit repeating sequence, the second one has a 73 digit repeating sequence, and the last one has a longer than 300 digit repeating sequence. Probably irrelevant.

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That was more true back in the day than now. At this point, several regions of the country own their own FRC fields. Events are planned assuming the field stays roughly the same size and shape. FIRST is somewhat locked in to the 27ishx54ish FRC field at this point.

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Doctor Who = time travel.

Maybe they are looking at replaying an old game?

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For all of you thinking three alliances... how big of a pain would it be to have three different bumper colors?

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LOL

I was just making a remark how by this point last year we were trying to figure out what
A Rose kissed
Singer great
A dinner missed
Holding weight

meant rather than trying to figure out the clue actually said. At this point we have no solid proof that Doctor Who references or triangles on the ground with water bottles are the game clue. They might be, I don't know, but, uh...maybe they finally stumped the Chief Delphi community? XD

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To me it kinda remind TCP\UDP ports!

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Just want to mention i got confused - the second color is BLUE, not green as I wrote accidentally before!!

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42 is Jackie Robinson's number, and "The Triangle" in Right Center of Fenway has a similar shape to the triangle made by the coordinates from the hint, and the park is also home to the Green monster. And green turf.
I'm thinking baseball.

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Yes, except those really high numbered ones have no consistent meaning.

Of the well known ports 57 is the mail transfer protocol (OMG...ZIP codes anyone!)

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The points on the Cartesian coordinate graph are a triangle, but if you look at the shape of the triangle it is like a flag, specifically a flag for capture the flag, thus we are playing capture the flag

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I think we are looking in the wrong direction I believe the numbers decode to something else, they have no direct meaning as they currently are.

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Let's not be too hasty now. We're still in the first few hours.

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Oh believe me I have not given up. Chief Delphi is an incredibly smart, creative, and resilient bunch, and I think we'll figure it out before the weekend is out.

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No, probably not. This would give the teams that have been a long time a HUGE advantage over newer teams, as they will have already built a robot for that game.

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I could see a mashup though-- and that could have to do with the old field pictures they've been posting on twitter.

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Ahh, great! I'll call up the design team and make sure they can be ready by Monday to start the robot CAD.

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So, someone needs to tell me what this game hint has to do with the glow-in-the-dark measuring tape that was mentioned from CMP last year...

... :D ...

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That could also make sense with the mail theme that people seem to be throwing around as well.

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I could see that being a possibility.

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What if the game was a triangle pool full of water and you had to push a game piece to the other end then take it out of the water. so like youd have to put the piece in the water and then push it to the end then take it out and put it somewhere else

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Has anyone tried graphing the cordinates using cylindrical or spherical form?

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what if it was a water game where you put the piece into the pool had to move it thru obstacles in the pool then take I tout on the other side

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Also, a friend of mine (Kevin from 365) mentioned to me that no one has noticed that all the numbers are 16 bit numbers.

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Every number less than 65,535 and greater than zero are 16 bit unsigned numbers, so I don't know what to do with this information....

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8234 is the name of a main belt asteroid discovered in 1997. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8234_Nobeoka
57 is the atomic number of Lanthanum, the first element in the lanthanide series, also known the rare-earth metals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element_57

Rare earth metals are often found in asteroids and are a chief reason to mine them, thus the game might be related to asteroid mining.:ahh:

I'd also like to note that the hint is not marked as hint number 1, so it could be the first and only hint, OR there are hints before it!

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Playing around with the numbers in different bases...

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If you take each digit in the hint and rearrange them in numerical order, you get

0111122223334556666667889

The middle number is 4, with twelve numbers on either side. This points to the 4th Doctor.

Also, 0 and 9 appear with the same frequency as 4. The beginning and end together suggests some kind of circular game piece, which aligns with hockey pucks or inner tubes- discs, too, but we just had that. Or maybe the endgame will be autonomous, since autonomous was previously at the beginning- beginning and end together.

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Talk about ambiguous.

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Here are the numbers converted from hex to decimal:
33332/87, 397606/6499, 402214/88070

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that we have to displace objects and/or robots in order to score points.

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Make a program to print out each fraction to a few hundred decimal places and look for things that stand out?
I don't know, but they certainly look like fractions to me, that or a cypher. Plugging in those raw numbers into a google search or a coordinate system is FAR too simple for FIRST hints.

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Maybe the number 16 is significant?

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My guess for awhile now, this having little to do with the clue, is weighted balls. i,e medicine balls/ bowling ball/ 48in solid steel ball.

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62326

5 digits and a mirrored number?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Five_lette... wards#slide=2
Radar and Rotor stand out here.

Might be of interest. Perhaps the digits stand for letters

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Someone mentioned that there were 2 red light, 2 green screens, and 2 blue lights in that picture. Is it possible that the hint lists the coordinates in RGB.

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That's it! We have to build amphibious robots that can fly, thus being a water game and an aerial game!

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I've been trying for a while with this, and gotten nowhere. There's a ton of 6's so I set six equal to e, but the only words that start and end in e (for 61126) is efface, and there aren't any palindromes like that (for 62326). Then, I tried with two letters is, in, my, at, or, and couldn't get anywhere with that either.

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This may be over analyzing, but look at deans feet, I wonder if that is significant at all as it looks really uncomfortable for him.

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I'm thinking something about placing things or stacking them. We have zip codes mentioned, they represent placing things on a map. Tis a great day to prototype an elevator lift.