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I am pretty sure analyzing his posture is over analyzing

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Over analyzing is scratching the surface.

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This is really common for websites where content is hosted on multiple servers. Right now, if I go to the site, I still get www. It depends on when you make the request and how many people are making the request at the same time. It's not a hint, it's always been like this.

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Rockford, Ill was divided by an Interstate Hwy. in 1963
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockford,_Illinois
A lot of the population moved east.

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I see...

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It's green:
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-2611.htm

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Three of the numbers; 61126, 62326, and 15806; appear on the Wikipedia list of minor planets. Could this be a hint?

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And this is yellow:
http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-2637.htm

:p

You mean Interstate 90? It says that was completed in 1958... ::rtm::

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coming up in 2014, it will be the 57th anniversary for all companies established in 1957. just an idea. also, as for 1963, some big events... Postal codes introduced, Nasa launches first geosynchronous (stationary) satellite. Kennedy was assassinated. Also, 3 plane crashes as well as a spaceplane crash. seemed like some of the biggest news.

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So here is my idea and i know its a stretch but eh when arent these hints stretches

61126 when added = 16
1963 when added = 19

--- both are the numbers of joe Montana

Now 8234 and 57

He is 57 currently
82 was his pick number
57-34= 23 his age when he was drafted into the nfl

Finally 62326 and 15806

62326 when added = 19
15806 when added = 20

1920 was the year the nfl changed it's name temporarily to apfa

So there's my idea!!! How cool would a football game be?? What are you guys thinking ??

- team 2265 The Femaidens :)

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Wasn't the game hint for Ultimate Ascent a picture of Rick Astley pinned onto a cork board? It was just as confusing to me it seems. The yellow push pin made people think there'd be a third alliance as well. Really the only close relation to it I saw was give you up with ascending the pyramids.

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I think that's way too much of a stretch. The hints are usually obscure, but not always a bunch of random "connections" that you can easily make up as you go along. (shrug)

Also, I remember seeing your team at Maker Faire a little while ago. I even stayed to chat with them for a while. Great team name.

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If use the Unicode character for / (47) the first number pair is the part number for a 3 watt motor that's way geared down
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...757-ND/2466759

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My 1/2 cent


8234 and 57: Playing field size, first in mm then ft. :D

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57 feet = 17373.6 mm

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I hate to have to lift a 48in solid steel ball. Battle bots watch out. ::ouch::

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So that's about a 27x57 foot field, previously a 27x54 foot field. The difference in length is...three.

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27 ft by 57 ft

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So by assuming x/y=x divided by y we get the numbers:
144.4, 31.1, 3.9; now recognize that these are quite close to 144,32,4=12^2,2^5,2^2. Now add the base number in each to the power and look at that letter in the alphabet to get NGD; the ticker symbol for none other than New Gold Inc. "It engages in both exploratory and production activity in North America, South America and Australia" And what is the abbreviation for these three continents? That's right, NSA; the government agency recently being exposed for wiretapping. Thus we can obviously see that this challenge will require our robot to somehow incorporate wires.

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Genius. Code cracked. We can all sleep easy.

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Holy over-analysis Batman! This thread really exploded!

Can someone who has been around awhile answer a simple question please?

Has analysis of the game hint ever produced a clear understanding of the game prior to kickoff?

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never. in. ever.
I think the only reason why they even put them out is to get the creative juices flowing. and to give some jobs to people that love FIRST

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Not that I know of? I think that people generally figured out that 2010 would be soccer from the CAD file they gave (maybe that was another year/game), but couldn't really know anything about the game without the rules. The games make the hints pretty obvious though, and normally someone gets it right; The problem is knowing which of the crazy "solutions" is correct.

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I asked that around this time last year!

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I recall getting darn close in 2012.

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Yellow is a primary color for pigments, but green is a primary color in light. It could still be something I suppose

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So here's the thing. This clue probably has two levels of "confusingness." The first one is that we're given a, seeming random, string of numbers. The assumption is that these numbers decode somehow into a series of letters, words, or other understandable data. As far as I can tell the numbers have no meaning by themselves and need to be decyphered.
I ran these numbers through a binary and hex converter and got this:
binary:
(00)10000000101010/(00)111001
()1110111011000110/(0)11110101011
()1111001101110110/(00)11110110111110
the zeros in the "()" are potential leading zeros (the calculator had an option for this.

hex:
202A/39
EEC6/7AB
F376/3DBE

No real pattern I see, but an interesting thought occurred to me as I was typing this. What if the binary is Morse code? the zeros could be dashes and the ones could be dots or the other way around. Anyone want to have a stab at translating it?

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If you reduce the third fraction (62326/15806), the numerator becomes 31163, which has a very similar pattern to 61126 (the second numerator).

Hmm.. I got nothing yet.

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Going back to this picture: http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default...ff-Filming.jpg

Im surprised no one has commented about how, from left to right, they have 0, 1, then 2 feet on the ground.

Endgame involving climbing on something? full points for fully supported, partial points for partially supported.

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Can aomeone please explain the hex color idea more in deapth and is the other numbers a colr??

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I believe the second hint of the 2008 game also pointed out a racing game pretty easily. They were coordinates of a place in Boston, and a compass heading pointing to a nearby statue of a tortoise and a hare.

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27x57 still doesnt equal 8234.

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OK, hold with me here.

In 1963 the post offices created the zip codes.
61126 is the area code for Rockford, IL.
In Rockford there is a Boy Scouts of America team; Number 57.
Googleing BSA 8234 gives you a site about a silver dollar.
http://www.greatcollections.com/Coin...llar-NGC-MS-70
Googleing silver dollar and 15806 sends you to this site, about the red rainbow-fish. By the way the rainbow-fish picture was taken in IL.
http://www.ratemyfishtank.com/friendemail.php/15806
I couldn't find anything for the last number...

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No, 8234 mm ~ 27 ft.
(27.0144 ft. to be exact)

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So the triangle formed by using the numbers as cartesian coordinates has side lengths of approximately 13894.91, 56338.04, and 52926.33. I doubt this is the actual hint, but you never know.

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Never a clear understanding of the game as it would be played, though we've been able to get bits and pieces. For example, 2009's Moonfish (moon --> lunacy).

They are fun to guess at, though. I'm pretty impressed with what's come up so quickly this year, and even though there's always water game jokes there have been some clever connections so far.

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I did briefly run through the ideas of binary, morse, hex, and all of that, even layered together. I didn't find anything. The problem is that decoding anything without any context or key can be very difficult. You need as many ideas as you can. My recent thought was that we are given Data/Key. The first number might represent data, and the second number represents a key used to decrypt this data. I'm running through a few ideas of what coding system could be applied to this, but everything has run up rather dry so far. I'm not posting any results that seem useless.

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Ok, I have a few things.

61126 = Rockford, IL
62326 = Colchester, IL
08234 = Egg Harbor Township, NJ

Now Egg Harbor has smaller towns or whatever inside them. One caught my eye. Cardiff. Now any proper Doctor Who fan will know that is the base of a LOT of Doctor Who stories.

1957 = Sputnik (The Doctor had an adventure with this)
1963 = First Doctor Who (A lot of stories are in this year too)
15806 = Some future Who story I can't find?

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Well, a quick google of the first number yields this map result:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=8234

It appears to be some small hamlet in Switzerland, which contains several roads with names like "Staanakenstrasse" -- roughly equivalent to "farmland lane", but also suspiciously similar to "Stacking".

Also -- Switzerland is landlocked. No water game this year!:ahh:

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Man, and I thought I was going to be the first one to bring up that 08234 would be a possible zip code.

I'm finding a lot of connections between two of the cities, but can never fit the third one into the mix. If it is cities, all I can think of for Colchester is coal/rock. There's also an obscure baseball thing that happened there, for those going on that theory right now. It's such a small city, it's going to be hard to get much out of it. The only sizable company I can find in it is Yetter Co, which produces agricultural equipment attachments.


Also, if you type 15806 into google, you get hits for Brandenberg, Germany.

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I think we're missing something here. We've given many possible explanations for the numbers. What do you all think about the punctuation marks? The GDC doesn't usually take an obscure piece of data about the game, encrypt it, surround it with a bunch of useless crap that can be ignored, and then send it out to us as a hint. Every character in the hint is (usually) significant in some way.
I was thinking about the different uses for the two punctuation marks used ("/" & ","). Slashes are usually used to denote "or". I had an idea that this clue might present potential trade-offs we will face in the game. Slashes are also used for dates and other things (feel free to expand on this). Commas are used in lists. They're also used in coordinate systems (which would give us three terms if applied to these numbers). Are there any more obscure uses for these symbols that anyone knows of?

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Plus the quote about Tom Baker!!!! OMG we all have to build TARDIS-based robots!!! Best game ever!! lol

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08234 - Egg Harbor Township, NJ
00057 - Channel Islands National PK, CA
61126 - Rockford, IL
01963 - Wincanton, UK?
62326 - Colchester, IL
15806 - ????

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61126 - Rockford, IL

1963 - Year

http://www.rockfordillinois.com/chron7.htm

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Gates Rubber has a history with first giving out scholarships, etc...

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15806 is Zossen Germany. Looking on the wikipedia page:

"Between 1901 and 1904, Zossen adopted the use of different high-speed vehicles, such as electric locomotives and trams, for transportation to and from Berlin-Marienfelde. These vehicles were powered by an alternating current of 15kV and used a variable frequency. The power was transmitted by three vertical overhead lines."

Overdrive?

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So after reading all these possible versions of the hint's meaning I will say what I THINK it could involve after reading some of you guys have said.

Since I also love Doctor Who and Lunacy, I think the game is going to be space related. Secondly, like someone pointed out earlier, and I will not go back because I am too lazy to do so and find that person, the amount of feet on the ground in the picture. Levels of climbing. I believe this competition is going to be related to some climbing in space challenge. Ergo it will be messy, confusing really odd to accomplish.

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Hey Everyone -- my first post on CD!

Not sure if this occurred to anyone yet, but the hint seems to be structured as Morse Code. The "/" and "," separators are used to construct messages.

The first portion of the message becomes:

8234/57

10000000101010 / 111001

-. .. ... .. -.-. -. / ---...

The problem is, there are many potential groupings of letters.

Perhaps someone can run with this.

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8234 is a NI part number.

http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/204722

Not sure how 57 fits in there, but so far we've got Gates and NI

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When I showed this to my dad, he said that he is positive that the red light on the right of the photo has to do with something.

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If two people come to this conclusion without, presumably, co-operation, maybe this is worth pursuing.

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Is there any rhyme or reason to the spaces you put in the morse code?

Edit - I originally asked how to get from the original number to the 1s and 0s, then realized...binary

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I used the Decimal-to-Binary translation feature in Google. There are a number of alternatives online.

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I assumed "1" = "dash" and "0" = "dot", but there is no reason why the complement might not also be true (which adds another layer of complexity).

The groupings of dashes and dots was from an early attempt to parse the sequence into separate characters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code

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Rockford is also called 'The Forest City', forest could = trees = tree climbing? Some type of climbing? Or it could tie into the green theme that was thrown around.
Also, and this is probably not connected, but when I googled '1963 robots' it came up with a page that said Iron Man was first drawn up in 1963. No idea how that would tie in though.

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8234/57, 61126/1963, 62326/15806

Just putting that string there again so we don't lose focus. We remember what we are trying to figure out.
Anyways.
There has been some stipulation as to if these numbers could be code for something. For those following that pursuit, someone found earlier that the median of the numbers if put in consecutive order is 4. This could be a possible key. I am not educated in this area, but have at it everyone!

Another thing I have realized from looking at this hint and previous hints given by FIRST is that they like to give us hints that connect inside of the hint as well as outside. With that in mind, lets look at the hint.
They possibly connect the ideas using the slashes and differentiate between ideas using the commas. Makes sense right?

Look at the middle numbers: "61126/1963"
We have found that the first number refers to Rockford, Illinois. (Although the 62326 may also refer to Colchester, IL as well, let's just focus on the middle term). Rockford is in Illinois. We have another value as well, the "1963".
My friends and I have two theories.
One:
Rockford is in Winnebago County. The Winnebago 1963 was a travel trailer. Do trailers mind you of something?

Two:
In 1963, the Chicago Bears won the NFL Championship game against the NY Giants 14 to 10. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Cha...hip_Game,_1963) This is where things get interesting. The game was the 31st annual championship game. Now divide the two middle numbers. What do you get? 31.1390...
This would also mean a game of football.

Just some food for thought!

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We have been known as the Screw City as well from the amount of screws we use to produce. Kinda of an odd nickname. The name that is being pushed now is the Garden City.

I personally would be leaning towards the baseball side, if it has anything to do with zip codes at all. Rockford had the Rockford Peaches which is a famous girls baseball team. Then Colchester, IL has some history with baseball as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchester,_Illinois).

I doubt it has anything to do with the Gates factory as that closed down and is now gone.

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Oh Noes :ahh:
I was hoping that I wouldn't have to think of AP Stats at all this winter break.
The median is a center of spread, which could be interpreted many different ways. What would be even more interesting is if someone found the mean (average) or the inter-quartile range (IQR). That way, we could get some real statistical analysis on this hint.
Just some food for thought!

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I think these have to be referencing some FRC-related documents somewhere online. Possibly the FRC website, twitter feeds, Facebook, etc.

The updated awards manual was just posted.

61126 - the 6th word of section 6.11.2 is "Safe Driving"

http://frc-manual.usfirst.org/viewItem/9#6.11

None of the other numbers make any sense to me. Possibly they could be decoded to IP address of a server with more clues, but IP addresses are usually 4-tuples, not triplets.

Just grasping.

Steve

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Last year I'd say got pretty close.

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Im calling baseball...just have that feeling. My opinion lol

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So I've been watching this thread and this is my first time posting on this particular thread...

A while back there was discussion of the appliance of zip codes through the means of the digits, however we were looking at the locations and what was at that area. After looking through some of those areas and thinking it out a bit, I think these zip codes aren't about what's there, but instead, what has happened there.

Specifically, when the USA has held the Olympics, the zip codes defined are areas that have hosted the passing of the Olympic torch. Additionally, this year there will be another winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia. The Olympics are often viewed as the ultimate sporting event, so it almost seems logical that FIRST would justify putting 2 years of effort into a game that identifies with the Olympics.

Putting this into a game, perhaps a large element of the game is based on passing field elements? However this doesn't seem likely because there is no guarantee that all teams will have the ability to pass the game object by competitions, and doing so would ruin the chances of alliances that they end up on. That is unless, the GDC found a way to do it that to be able to pass, it is so basic and teams are able to play around that element of the game if they wish, that it balances itself out.

This year the new sports added to the official Olympic sports list are:
Figure skating team event
Women's ski jumping
Mixed relay biathlon
Ski half-pipe
Team relay luge
Ski slopestyle
Snowboard slopestyle
Snowboard parallel special slalom

Perhaps the game pieces would stay on the ground, necessitating that robots only need to be able to move around to be able to pass, however teams may be able to develop aiming devices to improve their functionality. And then just to throw something way out there, maybe the endgame could be that you have to deliver a special game object to a giant cauldron to claim it for your alliance, similar to how the Olympic flame would ignite the cauldron.

I feel like I might be on to something or I've just finally lost my mind :D

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Maybe it has something to do with the Macy's Parade? I dunno, just throwing that out there.

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No, I believe that Macy's contacted FIRST to do that. Games, I also believe, are designed a year in advanced.

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Ok so they just released this video today to show the AndyMark team run by Andy himself. Andy is on in line with the kit of parts team and (from knowledge of a friend of a friend on the actually game commity) is knowledge slightly of the game. In the video Andy makes SEVERAL references to baseball. BOOM baseball game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJTpQ...ature=youtu.be

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Reading posts to my mom and she screams,
"IT'S AN UNDERWATER LUGE GAME!"

I've taught her so well. :p

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In addition, check out the last sentence of this blog post.

But they can't be that blatant, can they?

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At this point I'm almost starting to think that baseball is actually to throw us off, it almost seems too obvious at this point...

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I'm leaning baseball having something to do with it (gameplay, game piece, etc) as of right now, unless something more significant is derived from the numbers.

Between the past few references about baseball to both towns having a reference to baseball, the Rockford Peaches and the Chicago Black Sox playing a game in Colchester after the betting scandal. Of course, this could be a carefully placed diversion too.

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Going off of what you have said the most anticipated sport that is played during the winter olympics is hockey. Maybe the GDC will focus on hockey rather then any other game because it is easier to play.

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Don't worry. I gotchu so you don't have to do AP Stats! :cool:

Given the above data, we can find the mean: 4.12
And the median: 4
We can also find the quartiles: Q_1= 2, Q_3= 6
And the max/min: Min= 0, Max= 9
That means the IQR is: 4 (Curious...)
There are no outliers.

Not sure what you can do with this data, but maybe it will be of some use to you!

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Okay. Let's recap all that we have up to this point:
The numbers are possibly zip codes
They are zip codes for cities that have a connection to baseball
In Andy Baker's video for the Robot in Three Days, he uses a baseball bat.
In the kit of parts apology letter, the following phrase is used: "Our apologies for the two strikes this weekend, we promise our next swing will be a home run."
Statistics have been ran to show there are no outliers
No results from the hex theory or anything that worked last year
Morse code is a possibility but with many different ways to be coded into english it's almost impossible to figure out
Everything leads to baseball however, it has been presented that this is trying to throw us all off?
Also, that the game could possibly relate to the 2014 Winter Olympic Games
Finally, a picture of a man, Woodie, and Dean have been posted so check that out it there is potential for anything to be dug into with that photo
That's all the pertinent information i've taken away from this thread so far

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Guys, the other guy is Donald E. Bossi, the president of FIRST.
http://www.usfirst.org/aboutus/bio/don-bossi.
But, great ideas, i'm probably leaning towards baseball, or football.

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As previously mentioned, I think the whole baseball theme is a red herring. It doesn't seem too feasible nor safe, and the fact that it seems so obvious lends itself to being a false lead. I mean, like really, when's the last time FIRST or the GDC gave us anything on a silver platter like that?

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Though I can't imagine using actual baseballs...maybe something like a wiffle ball or just the bases aspect...

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I haven't read the entire thread, but here's a lovely list of things that happened in 1953

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Mmmm, I love the smell of wild mass guessing in the evening.

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I would like to point out that depending on exactly what the game is, baseball may not be that much more dangerous than frisbee. Maybe they're just pulling elements from baseball, or using baseballs as a game piece.

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And that two of the numbers can be colors in RGB:
And that some of the data might relate back to Dr. Who.

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If we do in fact do football, our local energy company threw out some awesome foam football game pieces at the July 4th parade, which I think they would probably look like.

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What if we get points for being lower? As in maybe the robots will be higher most of the time, then get bonus points for being lower somehow?

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Well, if this is true, then in 1608 I found this

Prototype of modern reflecting telescope completed by Jan Lippershey

Something with light maybe?

Also, I don't think that 1963 and the rockford, il is a coincidence.

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I honestly think the best bet is baseball. I think this year will have that aim high feel to it with small nerf baseball sized balls going into goals at different heights like in ultimate ascent and rebound rumble. Kind of like that idk if anyone has seen it but the gumball pinball machine that looks like a baseball field the homerun will be a smaller hole than a sinigle or double and different point value. To me it sounds like a fun a game. Just some thoughts

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Anyone else notice the color components say "3"? It says "There are no game clues in this photo" but what if it's in the details of the photo? Aka: 3 alliances, red, blue, green?

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Ok, stick with me here guys. Not sure of the significance but if you take the 144.456 from dividing the first two numbers, you get a radio frequency from a beacon with the coordinates 50.479167 / 10.041667 which place you in Germany. Still working out how this means anything yet.

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144.456 is in the 2 meter band of Ham Radio. What if the game is finding radio beacons? (Although this would probably be a pain for teams, as you need an FCC license to operate on them).

de KD0SET

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So I've been analyzing this hint and using the single digits to get 4/3 5/4 5/5.

Taking this and removing divisions and spaces you get 43545 to pull up on Google, information for an IR High Temp Thermometer.

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My theory since last season has been IR or some other type of RF signal for aiming, as opposed to reflective tape.

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All these references to Dr. Who connecting with FIRST..... "Who's on FIRST; Baseball Game. Probably not

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From the
http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...em-Option-2014

Looking at the changes to this years game base kit might help us figure this thing out. Especially since it was stated that the specifics would give away the game, or not. Is there a reason they specifically say 10.5 feet per second? The post might be a secret hint. Superstructures, can be like bridges.*Can be tied to the future water game* Or maybe there is a tower that robots must drive around wearing.*Or maybe they carry a tardus* why is “long robot” and “wide” in quotations?

Also looking at the image http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/at...5&d=1387605929

might uncover more clues. Not the image as much as the details under it. Is there a copy of this picture that doesn't have the black circle crossing out the bottom most number? Also color seems to be a big theme, and 3 colors in particular. The same colors in JPEG, unless I am wrong, Red Green Blue. Maybe 3 alliances, maybe instead 3 types of vision targets, in 3 different colors? If you imagine the image width and length as inches, and convert to feet, we could have rectangular field dimensions.

Well I don't know how this relate but looking at the hint
8234/57, 61126/1963, 62326/15806

under the assumption that the / means or in this case.
On the left side of the /,
the digits that repeat in 8234, there are none, 0
the digits that repeat in 61126, 1 and 6. 2 is the odd one out
the digits the repeat in 62326 is, 2 and 6. 3 is the odd one out
AND
6 repeats in both numbers. 1,2. 2,3. and 6. :yikes:
Things to think about.

EDIT: No one seems to have read all the way through, and I understand why so here is the important part that I would like attention brought too.

I think there is some reason why they said easier to attach superstructures to base. They didn't say mount, attach. Something in this game might do with ... o dear everything is falling into place. The lunacy references and the recycling of past games. It might just be a game similar to lunacy where you attach something to your robot, like a superstructure 0-0 *because that is descriptive*! Maybe the three colors represent three different types of recycling, like paper, glass etc. Each robot in the alliance has a different bin attached to them like in lunacy, and we need to put the game pieces in their proper bin. there is probably only 2 of each type, and the scoring is either 0, 1, or 2 properly recycled. Which ties in with their feet in the image (because feet are important!) 6 game pieces per alliance.

well ok the whole recycling game might not happen, but reusing the idea of attaching something to your bot, like in lunacy is probably a thing. Explains why they wont tell us the full details about whats what with the base. Could be anything we attach though, maybe we haul other robots around in a co-op like event.

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Okay, so I programmed a rough binary to morse code converter to test out that theory. I tried plugging in 8234 = 1000000010101010 and I got the output in the attached file. I also tried 57 = 111001, which is a much more readable option. Among the interesting ones that I saw in 8234:
be star
die inc
the earn
dive ten

I might play around with the settings later to try to filter the massive number of results. I am also curious to see what happens with 16 bits for each number. But I think I should go sleep now.

If anyone would like me to run any other numbers through, I would be more than happy to do so, although I will not look through every output for you :yikes:.

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I just realized that I assumed 0=DOT and 1=DASH for no good reason. Here are the inverted outputs. Tell me if you find any outputs that do not translate correctly, I tend not to trust code that:
1. works on the first try
2. works for the first time at 3:30 AM

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I searched the numbers in google earth with my brother.
The second numer refers to a sign "FIRST Security"
The third number refers to the "FIRST Baptist church"
The first number is very intresting, there is a strange sign that I couldn't read it all: "Weight limit reduced 25%"

It means that the robot weight limit is going to be 90 pound.

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Source?

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it's attached
another thing, I found a US post office in front of the "FIRST Security sign"

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Better picture,

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There is a train engine the CSX 8234

Do you remember a TV Show called the Rockford Files?

Neal

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The only thing I could pull off google for '1963 baseball' that I could find a way to possibly tie in was that the New York Yankees (Who came in first place for the AL East) had 104 wins and 57 losses.
Someone else might have better luck looking

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The S&W 57 is a revolver.

Neal