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gavmac928 24-12-2013 19:13

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
As interesting a coincidence the 25% weight reduction sign is, I think that it's just that- a coincidence. How could the GDC possibly figure out that those numbers when put into google maps would produce a picture of that sign?

raptaconehs 24-12-2013 19:31

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gavmac928 (Post 1316737)
As interesting a coincidence the 25% weight reduction sign is, I think that it's just that- a coincidence. How could the GDC possibly figure out that those numbers when put into google maps would produce a picture of that sign?

Well it's possible that they know that it is an official sign in Ohio, and contacted the Ohio department of motor vehicles to find a location of the sign. But I still highly doubt that sign is the hint. I believe that it is just a distraction.

gavmac928 24-12-2013 19:35

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Also, I think it may be pertinent to acknowledge the fact that this is the entire game hint, not just the numbers:

Blog Date: Friday, December 20, 2013 - 16:08
Here you go!

8234/57, 61126/1963, 62326/15806

Have a great weekend!

Frank

(Copied directly from the FIRST blog)

Celia 24-12-2013 19:36

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jman4747 (Post 1316725)
The weight reduction must refer to something other than robot weight restriction as we know it. A strait 90lb limit is unimaginable with our hardware. I think it could refer to the game piece. The other option I can think of would be the ability to attach/detach 25% of your weight during the match.

I think the sign is a definite clue, paying special attention to the last sentence of that post. Having a ~30 lb attachment for offence or defense could be a big element of baseball, hockey, or an abstract, stair-climbing endgame. I think the new KOP frame gives a little more credit to this theory, too.

As for how FIRST found the sign, maybe someone saw the sign while out and about and back figured it into a fraction. I dislike the idea that the numbers can only equate to one solution. Who says the game hint can't be geographical locations relating to road signs and anniversary hints?


Quote:

Originally Posted by cadandcookies (Post 1315973)
Yes everyone, we get it, if you interpret the numbers in any way that gives you three points, you get a triangle, which is literally the most boring thing that three points can define.

I think this is a main thing to keep in mind. FIRST is about creative solutions (especially with game hints), not just connecting three points. Good luck everyone! ::rtm::

NoahD 24-12-2013 19:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1315085)
8234/57 = 144.45614035087719298245614035088
61126/1963 = 31.139072847682119205298013245033
62326/15806 = 3.9431861318486650638997848918132

They must be 3d coordinates.

emmcro 24-12-2013 21:50

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
One team went to reddit for assistance deciphering the hint.
http://www.reddit.com/r/cryptography..._example_help/

I converted the number to hexadeimal maybe these mean something: 202a/39, eec6/7ab, f376/3dbe
In hexadecmial the first anwswer is C3. Second is 1F. And the Third is 3. (all answers in hexadcimal)
So this means there will only be one floor. C3 i just went on wikipedia and the first thing for technology is rockets, so we might be firing stuff using rocket propulsion or flying. Some other things might work too check for yourself what seems best: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C3#Technology. And 3 Means that we will have 3 different goals to shoot our rocket propelled thing into.
I just saw paintball on the wiki so we are definetly firing something
into one of 3 goals
im converting the final answers from hexadecimal back to decimal
1f = 31
c3 = 195
3 = 3
195 is a galaxy rockets

Think this is relevant?

Anthony4004 24-12-2013 22:15

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jman4747 (Post 1316725)
The weight reduction must refer to something other than robot weight restriction as we know it. A strait 90lb limit is unimaginable with our hardware. I think it could refer to the game piece. The other option I can think of would be the ability to attach/detach 25% of your weight during the match.

that would be interesting...minibot anyone? Frankly i think that is the most believable use of the sign yet. its been awhile since we had the minibot, and it brings a challenge to the game.

Anthony4004 24-12-2013 22:23

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Originally Posted by NoahD (Post 1316753)
They must be 3d coordinates.

i dont believe that anyone has plotted them yet like that.

gavmac928 24-12-2013 22:27

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emmcro (Post 1316777)
One team went to reddit for assistance deciphering the hint.
http://www.reddit.com/r/cryptography..._example_help/

I converted the number to hexadeimal maybe these mean something: 202a/39, eec6/7ab, f376/3dbe
In hexadecmial the first anwswer is C3. Second is 1F. And the Third is 3. (all answers in hexadcimal)

I like this theory, since it makes the division come out whole numbers, as for what they mean, I doubt rockets

LisaGinkgo 24-12-2013 22:56

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gavmac928 (Post 1316748)
Also, I think it may be pertinent to acknowledge the fact that this is the entire game hint, not just the numbers:

Blog Date: Friday, December 20, 2013 - 16:08
Here you go!

8234/57, 61126/1963, 62326/15806

Have a great weekend!

Frank

(Copied directly from the FIRST blog)

Just wondering, do they usually start hints with things like "here you go"? I haven't been able to find many past game hints, but the 2012 hint just went straight into the numbers. Is this common?
I ran the words "here you go" through an anagram solver the other day because I was curious, and nothing popped out at me right away, although some of the phrases could be vaguely related to the game if you stretch your imagination. Then again, one of them was "eh your ego," so maybe they're just mocking us.

TK3950 24-12-2013 23:10

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gavmac928 (Post 1316748)
Also, I think it may be pertinent to acknowledge the fact that this is the entire game hint, not just the numbers:

Blog Date: Friday, December 20, 2013 - 16:08
Here you go!

8234/57, 61126/1963, 62326/15806

Have a great weekend!

Frank

(Copied directly from the FIRST blog)

I also thought it was good to consider all of it. I couldn't see much with the rest of it though, but I don't think it should be thrown away.

Christopher149 24-12-2013 23:13

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Well, getting the hint was dependent on adding 50 FB likes and 100 twitter followers, so it might be entirely innocent to have "Here you go" given it was a reward item.

On the other hand, it could be something, like a key to decode this thing.

Jacob Bendicksen 25-12-2013 00:54

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
So my strategy was to completely ignore the numbers (since I have no idea what I'm doing there) and run only the words through an anagram solver. I ran "here you go have a great weekend frank" and got out HEATHEN AGE GO FRAUD KEEN YORK WEAVER.

HEATHEN AGE: Heathen means non-religious, and atheism is on the rise today, so I interpret this to mean modern times. Baseball is a fairly modern sport.

GO FRAUD: This is the most confusing one. It might mean that you have to foul other robots in order to win (perhaps a certain number of fouls are allowed per game?). Not sure here.

KEEN YORK WEAVER: Jeff Weaver was a pitcher who played for the New York Yankees. You need keen eyes to be a pitcher. Baseball game.

BUT WAIT I JUST REALIZED THIS: when I think of baseball fraud, I think of the infamous Chicago Black Sox, where the players conspired to lose the World Series. They did this by prearranging bets with mafia guys. In other words, you're going to need to talk beforehand with your alliance partners (because of the modular systems for different tasks) to see how you can profit the most from the match.

Boom.

Baseball game.

atucker4072 25-12-2013 01:23

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Alrighty here is what I have taken away from reading all the pages on the thread.

Things that have kept coming up consistently include: baseball, space, ice/skating/hocky, shapes (triangles, squares, and circles), football, racing, and wind.

I think that baseball and football are eluding to the fact that the element will be a ball. However there are also the different shapes. This could mean reuse of the tunes from logomotion. With the ice it could be the return of regolith coving. This also connects space and lunacy together. Racing could mean something similar to overdrive. With wind being a factor of racing (drafting and such).

The tape measures and 25% weight are probably changes to general robot rules. The chassis also being able to be a wide bot with 6 wheels may mean you need more traction to the playing surface.

Calvin Hartley 25-12-2013 01:30

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoahD (Post 1316753)
They must be 3d coordinates.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tondogone (Post 1316781)
i dont believe that anyone has plotted them yet like that.


I believe somebody earlier in the thread used Wolfram Alpha to do this and got a sphere... I could be wrong though, it may have been something else. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.


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