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dellagd 31-12-2013 11:49

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abhishek R (Post 1318885)
Maybe we should just lock this thread.

While I don't know what it would be, if someone has a theory still on the original hint, it should go here...

Hallry 31-12-2013 12:15

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abhishek R (Post 1318885)
Maybe we should just lock this thread.

I agree with the locking, obviously some users just post without reading much first, even the most recent post before them in the thread...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1318887)
While I don't know what it would be, if someone has a theory still on the original hint, it should go here...

Well, since the original hint is incorrect, I don't see why it should need to still be analyzed any further. Mods, feel free to lock this thread (please :p).

bduddy 31-12-2013 12:42

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1318887)
While I don't know what it would be, if someone has a theory still on the original hint, it should go here...

The relationship of the original hint to the new one has been well-defined. It switched one soccer player for another and changed the format of the dates.

dellagd 31-12-2013 13:01

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bduddy (Post 1318905)
The relationship of the original hint to the new one has been well-defined. It switched one soccer player for another and changed the format of the dates.

Hence the "I don't know what it would be." I just wanted to leave things open to people since they are somewhat different numbers. If everyone wants to close the thread up, go ahead. I definitely wont be posting any ideas here.

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Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1318896)
Well, since the original hint is incorrect, I don't see why it should need to still be analyzed any further. Mods, feel free to lock this thread (please :p).

Also, I responded to your post with an analysis of the first hint using the same theory here. The first hint doesnt appear to be incorrect, just slightly more confusing because of a possible mix up with the 57, or so it seems. I think I got it right since its just a swapping of assist record holding soccer players.

mechanica 31-12-2013 18:25

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
just did some research....

61474:135 - serial number for a triple tachymetric indicator (device which generates target position, speed, direction, and rate of target range change)

12661:1963 - (not sure about this one) nominal pipe size in 200 mm and 250 mm respectively with the capacity in kg/hour fir 4 bars of pressure

32662:15806 - (couldn't find anything with the numbers together, so I divided them by 2 and got 16331:7903; any higher divider would yield a decimal)
7903 - it is an helicopter serial number (most relevant result) and also the name of the 7903 Albioni asteroid belt
16331 - nada

I then divided 16331:7903 by 7 and got 2333:1129
2333 - serial number for greatwall motor (most relevant result)
1129 - nada
however, both numbers' results' had pictures of buses?????

hope this helped!

roboryan 31-12-2013 18:39

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
seriosuly we already solved it on the other thread this is now an old thread stop posting

DonRotolo 31-12-2013 18:55

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roboryan (Post 1318994)
seriosuly we already solved it on the other thread this is now an old thread stop posting

Gee, thanks! Good to know. :rolleyes:

Abhishek R 31-12-2013 20:14

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Hence the locking.

Willem Bohrer 01-01-2014 21:33

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
What other thread?

Blueamber 01-01-2014 22:53

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Willem Bohrer (Post 1319289)
What other thread?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=123823

one4robots 02-01-2014 19:49

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvin Hartley (Post 1315227)
Well we've got the answer, now what's the question? :D


Since there is a clear, unmistakeable connection to Hitchhiker's Guide, I can only suggest that everyone bring their TOWEL for the water game!

Calvin Hartley 03-01-2014 01:13

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by one4robots (Post 1319595)
Since there is a clear, unmistakeable connection to Hitchhiker's Guide, I can only suggest that everyone bring their TOWEL for the water game!

I was already planning on it. DON'T PANIC!

Shockwave527 03-01-2014 01:31

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Ok, get ready for some baseless game conjecture. I've wanted to post this somewhere but didn't know where, and as it has SOME bases in what people think the hint means, I decided to put it here. If there is a game conjecture thread, someone may direct me to it and I will move it there.

I've been looking at past games and trying to figure out, based off trends (but not off the game hint, since that wasn't really understood until today), what it might be. While there's a 99% chance I'm wrong, I would like to put down my thoughts.

There seem to be a lot of games involving balls as the main playing piece, and since last year's was a frisbee, although this is no guarantee, I'm thinking we'll have a ball game this year. Yet this year, while looking toward being ball based, also seems likely to be a slightly more obscure game (less obvious than the past years of basketball and frisbee), so I don't think we'll have a definite sport. The ball may be weird in some way, which got me thinking: beach balls. Another reason I came to this conclusion is that last year's game primarily had shooters as the way to move game pieces, and while it's certainly possible to have that again this year, I feel that won't be the primary means of moving a game piece. Instead, I theorize that the game may involve some kind of "kicker", where robots are thrown beach balls by a human player and must keep them in the air without holding on to them, and score them into some form of baskets for points. This could also lend to the idea of assists, where potentially a ball could be worth more if it has been handled by more than one robot. There could be red and blue balls for each alliance, and white balls which can be scored either in autonomous or maybe by either team for more points.

I am fairly sure beach balls has not been done before, nor has some form of volleyball (which is not that obscure a sport, I guess, but the beach balls change it up), so that's a possibility. Also, lighter playing pieces with some floatieness could add an interesting dynamic to the game. Beach balls also are not that expensive to buy or make, so that wouldn't be problematic. However I think they stated the game this year may be somewhat easier than last year's game, as newer teams last year were discouraged by the difficulty. I don't know if this gameplay would be easire or harder, but there would probably be some way robots could gain points by pushing balls into a goal as well, something that even the simplest robot could do.

With the glow-in-the-dark tape measure, someone had suggested caves of some sort. As a way to score extra points, there could be tunnels a robot could go under while they send the ball over to score extra points. The one problem I see with my theory (aside from the fact that everything is simply conjecture at this point) is that I'm pretty sure I've heard the game will be easier to score, whereas this would require careful watching and marking down to see if balls are passed, sent over caves, held, or dropped. Despite this, and especially after hearing assists, I think the idea is plausible, if not the most likely idea out there.

One last thought, and this is past theory and more just my stupid idea. First often likes names with puns, and I thought of a perfect one for this idea: "Keep It Up."

2 other points I wanted to make:

1: With assists also, maybe if all 3 members of the alliance hit the ball there would be a huge multiplier or point bonus. I'm betting while FIRST loves to make teams really work together, this game will focus a lot more on that with the idea of "assist". Teams must work together and help one another, rather than rely on one good bot, to truly succeed.

2: Most of my theories are probably just confirmation bias, as I thought of these last week and may simply be molding the "assist" clue to fit my idea.

Stonemotmot 03-01-2014 19:46

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
Hey, I'm working off the idea that the numbers are a cipher. The only recognizable number is 1963 perhaps this is the key. If you search "1963 secret codes" into google, a book called Alvin's Secret Code by Clifford B. Hicks comes up as the top result. Now get this. The book is literally a novel about a boy cracking codes. In fact a reprint on amazon includes the authors notes on ciphers in the appendix. I'm currently trying to determine if the book actually has a key in it that could be used on our hint. Unfortunately, I do not have my own copy.

David8696 04-01-2014 09:32

Re: [FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint
 
The original hint is not that difficult: The second two are just "Year Month Day" formats of the same dates (with the same second numbers); the first is a "Year Month Day" format of the birthday of Landon Donovan, all-time US international soccer assists leader, with his number of assists.

Well, we're about to find out for sure!


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