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This is the answer, I'm almost positive! I knew that for this to be true, it had to sort of work for the original numbers too, so I went back to those. The second and third sets are almost identical in the old and new numbers, only the first number is shifted. ( from 61126/1963 to 12661:1963, and from 62326/15806 to 32662:15806). So that means it was originally YY-D-MM, instead of D-MM-YY as George used them.
So, back to the first set of numbers in the original ones, which was 8234/57. This means we're looking for an athlete born on 82-3-4, or march 4th of 1982, who has a the record for career assists of 57. So, I searched athlete 3-4-82. I found Landon Donovan, a soccer player who was born on march 4th, 1982. He played many different teams, including the US National team. On the US team, he holds the record for the most career goals: 57! This cannot possibly be a coincidence. This is why it was iffy- it's not an assists record, and why they replaced it with one for the same sport. They also fixed it to have the year last, as we more commonly express dates.

Now, what this means can vary. It could have to do with assists, or just the sports. I think it could mean that it's a game with soccer balls, basket balls, and hockey pucks, or a game combining soccer and basketball played on regolith. Both sound awesome and terrifying at the same time.

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Gavin, good finding, but this was already discussed in the other thread. I realise 1,000+ combined posts between the two threads is a lot to sift through, so no worries. Just know that there is already discussion on the new numbers over in the other thread, including the same solution as yours.

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Oh! Thanks for letting me know, I didn't even realize we split into a new thread.

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Not a problem! A new one was created after the new blog post today. The thread can be found here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=123823

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I honestly think that the game has something to do with the number 3 and also a 25% weight reduction. Maybe a triangular field?

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By the sound of "assists", we could see the return of the concept of co-op.

Instead of co-op between two alliances, it could be separated into the two alliances. Co-op between any two of three robots on red and likewise on blue.

One possibility is directly assisting another robot to score by exchanging a game piece.

Another possibility is a scoring move that is required by 2 of 3 robots on an alliance to open up a goal to score on or release a bonus element.

These are some of the thoughts circulating around our team.
Three days folks! :yikes:

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I am reposting from the newest thread.

We had hints about 3's for 2005's Triple Play, where we transitioned from the 2 v 2 to 3 v 3. Also the "tetras" as a game piece. This also contained the first vision acquisition autonomous period, that was less than successful. It was also the last year without bumpers. There were some awesome collisions during the endgame frenzy of taking goals and running to the end zone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ePwDtrthWE

Hence my thoughts: I like baseball (three bases), and hockey (three periods and three zones).

Baseball: Wiffle balls. Easy to collect and throw and purchase. No harm to spectators. Three bases on the field for an endgame battle of which alliance can control the bases.

Hockey: A goal at either end that can be defended by a goalie bot. You choose to defend the goal or pull the goalie to grab a base in the endgame that would allow the opposing alliance to easily score. Three periods, like in Aim High.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vuwjse90AA

For some reason, I am still expecting the weight reduction for the robots on the field, but an increase in the withholding allowance to encourage modularity and strategic decision making based upon alliance composition.
Noodle-bot!

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Instead of reposting it here, why don't we just keep it there, eh? As has been said many times recently on this thread, why don't we leave all discussion of the updated game hint on the respectful updated game hint thread. :)

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I found a post once where somebody found the numbers matched up to sport members. I don't remember the names, but I remember one was in hockey, one in soccer, one in basketball. The most I can think of when it comes to those three are the "goals" and not only that, each sport puts it into the goal in completely different ways.

Here's what I am getting at.

If it is sort mail, or anything of the sort, it could mean that there are different levels of sorting mail. Just like in a lot of the competitions. (But I'm not saying I think we are sorting mail, you all just seem to be on a mail, and doctor who vibe right now.)

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Maybe we should just lock this thread.

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While I don't know what it would be, if someone has a theory still on the original hint, it should go here...

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I agree with the locking, obviously some users just post without reading much first, even the most recent post before them in the thread...

Well, since the original hint is incorrect, I don't see why it should need to still be analyzed any further. Mods, feel free to lock this thread (please :p).

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The relationship of the original hint to the new one has been well-defined. It switched one soccer player for another and changed the format of the dates.

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Hence the "I don't know what it would be." I just wanted to leave things open to people since they are somewhat different numbers. If everyone wants to close the thread up, go ahead. I definitely wont be posting any ideas here.

Also, I responded to your post with an analysis of the first hint using the same theory here. The first hint doesnt appear to be incorrect, just slightly more confusing because of a possible mix up with the 57, or so it seems. I think I got it right since its just a swapping of assist record holding soccer players.

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just did some research....

61474:135 - serial number for a triple tachymetric indicator (device which generates target position, speed, direction, and rate of target range change)

12661:1963 - (not sure about this one) nominal pipe size in 200 mm and 250 mm respectively with the capacity in kg/hour fir 4 bars of pressure

32662:15806 - (couldn't find anything with the numbers together, so I divided them by 2 and got 16331:7903; any higher divider would yield a decimal)
7903 - it is an helicopter serial number (most relevant result) and also the name of the 7903 Albioni asteroid belt
16331 - nada

I then divided 16331:7903 by 7 and got 2333:1129
2333 - serial number for greatwall motor (most relevant result)
1129 - nada
however, both numbers' results' had pictures of buses?????

hope this helped!

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seriosuly we already solved it on the other thread this is now an old thread stop posting

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Gee, thanks! Good to know. :rolleyes:

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Hence the locking.

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What other thread?

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Since there is a clear, unmistakeable connection to Hitchhiker's Guide, I can only suggest that everyone bring their TOWEL for the water game!

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I was already planning on it. DON'T PANIC!

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Ok, get ready for some baseless game conjecture. I've wanted to post this somewhere but didn't know where, and as it has SOME bases in what people think the hint means, I decided to put it here. If there is a game conjecture thread, someone may direct me to it and I will move it there.

I've been looking at past games and trying to figure out, based off trends (but not off the game hint, since that wasn't really understood until today), what it might be. While there's a 99% chance I'm wrong, I would like to put down my thoughts.

There seem to be a lot of games involving balls as the main playing piece, and since last year's was a frisbee, although this is no guarantee, I'm thinking we'll have a ball game this year. Yet this year, while looking toward being ball based, also seems likely to be a slightly more obscure game (less obvious than the past years of basketball and frisbee), so I don't think we'll have a definite sport. The ball may be weird in some way, which got me thinking: beach balls. Another reason I came to this conclusion is that last year's game primarily had shooters as the way to move game pieces, and while it's certainly possible to have that again this year, I feel that won't be the primary means of moving a game piece. Instead, I theorize that the game may involve some kind of "kicker", where robots are thrown beach balls by a human player and must keep them in the air without holding on to them, and score them into some form of baskets for points. This could also lend to the idea of assists, where potentially a ball could be worth more if it has been handled by more than one robot. There could be red and blue balls for each alliance, and white balls which can be scored either in autonomous or maybe by either team for more points.

I am fairly sure beach balls has not been done before, nor has some form of volleyball (which is not that obscure a sport, I guess, but the beach balls change it up), so that's a possibility. Also, lighter playing pieces with some floatieness could add an interesting dynamic to the game. Beach balls also are not that expensive to buy or make, so that wouldn't be problematic. However I think they stated the game this year may be somewhat easier than last year's game, as newer teams last year were discouraged by the difficulty. I don't know if this gameplay would be easire or harder, but there would probably be some way robots could gain points by pushing balls into a goal as well, something that even the simplest robot could do.

With the glow-in-the-dark tape measure, someone had suggested caves of some sort. As a way to score extra points, there could be tunnels a robot could go under while they send the ball over to score extra points. The one problem I see with my theory (aside from the fact that everything is simply conjecture at this point) is that I'm pretty sure I've heard the game will be easier to score, whereas this would require careful watching and marking down to see if balls are passed, sent over caves, held, or dropped. Despite this, and especially after hearing assists, I think the idea is plausible, if not the most likely idea out there.

One last thought, and this is past theory and more just my stupid idea. First often likes names with puns, and I thought of a perfect one for this idea: "Keep It Up."

2 other points I wanted to make:

1: With assists also, maybe if all 3 members of the alliance hit the ball there would be a huge multiplier or point bonus. I'm betting while FIRST loves to make teams really work together, this game will focus a lot more on that with the idea of "assist". Teams must work together and help one another, rather than rely on one good bot, to truly succeed.

2: Most of my theories are probably just confirmation bias, as I thought of these last week and may simply be molding the "assist" clue to fit my idea.

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Hey, I'm working off the idea that the numbers are a cipher. The only recognizable number is 1963 perhaps this is the key. If you search "1963 secret codes" into google, a book called Alvin's Secret Code by Clifford B. Hicks comes up as the top result. Now get this. The book is literally a novel about a boy cracking codes. In fact a reprint on amazon includes the authors notes on ciphers in the appendix. I'm currently trying to determine if the book actually has a key in it that could be used on our hint. Unfortunately, I do not have my own copy.

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The original hint is not that difficult: The second two are just "Year Month Day" formats of the same dates (with the same second numbers); the first is a "Year Month Day" format of the birthday of Landon Donovan, all-time US international soccer assists leader, with his number of assists.

Well, we're about to find out for sure!

I predict the game is going to be throwing balls into a top goal for 10 points along with bonus points for your alliance working together. Also I predict the game is going to be called Aerial Assist. I also don't look at the timestamp this was posted on 12/31/13 xD

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This hint had two layers. One was assist, and the other was one game piece at a time, an element common to all of these sports. They all also involve getting past defenders to score one piece into a goal as well as some form of inbounding to resume play with the single game piece.

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AERIAL ASSIST

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Ahem, guys. Did I call it or did I call it?:D

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Uhhh, choice C, You didn't call it, IMHO.
If you had mentioned the truss at the top, I would have bought you a corn dog.

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HE CALLED IT

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Holy rebirth batman