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FRC Blog - FIRST Choice: Take Three!
http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ice-Take-Three
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Cool! It also looks like AndyMark has fixed the certificate errors too. :]
Is there a plan for a pre-launch test again, or are we just going for it? |
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I hope that whitepaper gets published before kickoff so I actually read it...
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It looks like the items are now spread across 5 pages rather than all on one page.
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I hate to rain on the parade...but 13 seconds is the minimum load time? Seriously? That's like 56k modem slow.
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It is also in multiple pages for me at http://www.firstchoicebyandymark.com/en/everything
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Ah, OK.
Try this page: http://www.firstchoicebyandymark.com/en/newproducts Clik on any item to go to the 'add to cart' page. Edit: OK, when logged in, you automatically get redirected to the \everything\ page. Well, just cache the \newproducts\ page. |
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Working on websites professionally, I certainly agree with FIRST and AndyMark that striving for shorter load times could take ridiculous (and expensive) resources for what we really need. So it'll take you 10 minutes instead of 2 to finish your order. I would rather FIRST invested those resources into other areas (like regionals, growing the program, preparing the new control system, etc) than use them to strive for perfection on a system we'll each use for less than 30 minutes this year. |
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Didn't anyone else notice? Take three? Clearly a game hint. :P
On a more serious note, I don't quite know what to make of this: Quote:
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Maybe there's some reason that makes it not that simple... But historically FIRST has never been able to handle heavy website traffic in a fast and reliable manner. |
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Besides, saying "you are not showing gracious professionalism" always starts a battle on what GP is, when it is, why it is, etc. etc. etc. You are not new mentor here, you know how thing can fling themselves into a downward spiral. Quote:
Once again, these people are doing the best job they can manage. The season ends in April, that means you have May-November (7 months) to plan, design, build, implement, test and you too can be the 2015 FIRST Choice site. Quote:
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Would a team(s) really have more then one person login to FirstChoice to improve their chances of getting items?
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Getting web sites to scale is not a simple "pour on the horsepower" problem. If the solution was dropping a couple $000 at AWS or Azure to increase compute, they would have done it by now.
My previous comment on the scaling issues of this site still applies, particularly in light of the 'bot request from FIRST. |
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Just wanted to bump this back up, in light of it opening tomorrow at 3pm Eastern.
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Mmmmm, First Choice day. I can already taste the latency.
Everyone got your pages cached? - Sunny G. |
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Also note the new rule stating that all items in your cart for over an hour will be dropped. Good luck to everyone today and I hope that 3 is the magical number this year.
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One can hope:)
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What is the approximate shipping cost for an average order of lots of small to medium parts (motors, screwdriver kits, solenoids, lazy susans, couplers, etc.) ? This is my first year as a coach. I have to put out the money up front and get reimbursed, so I'm worried about how much it might come to.
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In past years it's been the AndyMark shipping costs so around $10 |
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Maybe $20 if you get a lot of heavy stuff. Shipping - especially ground shipping - is quite reasonable. Overnight is a different $tory!
OK, about 1 hour to go. Guess I'll go log in soon. |
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Logged in now, pages are loading fast! Even on 4G hours away from civilization in the middle of the desert!
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T-14 minutes. Here's to hoping we don't DDoS the site this time.
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If we delay any more, this will merge with the next batch of points!
Its a shame, because we were doing exercises over the holidays and were hoping to use these parts. |
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Well, with about 10 minutes to go until opening, the site is still lightning-fast -- during previous "takes" the site was already lagging significantly by this time.
Looks great so far! |
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T-5 minutes. The website is running faster than ever. Great work, Andymark team!
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t-0 and not credits. do i need to relog?
NEVERMIND!! working like a charm. |
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and let the slowdown begin.
I still appreciate all of the hard work you guys put in this holiday season/. Your busy season hasn't really started yet! |
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Working beautifully
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I have credits but I can't get anything to load...yay?
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In T+3 I have been able to put one product into the shopping cart, but still waiting for the next page to load to fill the cart, has taken 2 minutes so far.
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Got in, got out, no problems. Good job AndyMark!
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Looks like it's working. The timers have begun and I can add items to my cart. The latency is significant (~60 seconds), but it appears to be working.
- Sunny G. |
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slow but it's working. Just like they said it would.
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We still have issues with loading and getting anything. Just really really slow. 5 minutes and still trying to get a classmate...:confused:
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I can't get it and isitdownrightnow.com shows it's down too. :(
Back up @3:07, still slow, sometimes get 504 error. No luck yet. |
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Now the race to enter in shipping info in a lagged system before the cart timer clears.
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And I'm done.
Good Job Andymark |
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Entering shipping info now
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One more item to put in and then it's checkout time! The site is working like a 254 robot!
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1 thing in my cart and I cant get to the next screen to continue shopping, 6 minutes left in shopping cart timer :-(
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Success !!!
I received an order confirmation number, third times a charm.... |
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Logged in around noon (central), cached my pages. 2:00 rolled around, clicked add to cart, checkout, done. All in less than 5 minutes.
Great Job AndyMark and FIRST to get this resolved. |
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Boom
Done Nice job AndyMark! |
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Those Generator 3-Port Extension Cables went fast!
But otherwise working great! |
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That feeling as you watch your cart timer tick away with a black spinning circle on the screen…
Great job, Andymark! Glad to see everything working! |
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Worked good for me this time!
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Logged in early and loaded all the pages, added items to cart at 2pm CST. Was checked out by 2:07.
Our Order fc14-059 Talon SR (fc14-059) 55 1 55 fc14-098 Double Solenoid Valve Kit (fc14-098) 10 4 40 fc14-128 Plastic Pneumatic Fitting Pack (fc14-128) 5 4 20 fc14-095 7/16" Haydon Kerk Lead Screw (fc14-095) 5 2 10 fc14-114a DryLin® W, linear guide system, double rail (fc14-114a) 5 1 5 fc14-114 DryLin® W, linear guide system, guide carriage, assembled (fc14-114) 5 1 5 fc14-007 Strap Wrench,Multipurpose (fc14-007) 5 1 5 fc14-106 Pneumatic tubing, white (fc14-106) 5 1 5 fc14-055 Relief valve, 120 psi (fc14-055) 5 1 5 |
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AndyMark folks, it was awesome!!! We were able to place order like breeze! THANK YOU.:]
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Got everything ordered and done. Finally everything worked flawlessly.
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@FRCTeams: 124 #FIRSTChoice orders in the first 10 minutes #omgrobots
@andymarkinc: FRC Teams, once you've successfully ordered, please log off the site. Thank you! |
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Site ran a bit slow loading, but got our 6 items in the cart and completed the sale in 6 mins. AndyMark NICE JOB.
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Done! Order processed by 12:10 PST! You're awesome AndyMark!
Got a couple solenoid valve kits, cordless screwdriver kit, various motors, battery connectors |
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success smooth....
I had preloaded the individual pages I needed... cRio, pneumatics CONGRATS to the KOP team!!! |
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1806 is currently checking out... and ... good to go!
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Thanks andymark! |
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Worked great for me, Thanks for working so hard to get this right.
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Order complete and confirmed at 3:11 - great job AndyMark!!
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Nice Job AndyMark
Looking forward to Round 2! Our order: fc14-059 Talon SR (fc14-059) 55 2 110 fc14-060 Ring light (fc14-060) 10 1 10 fc14-072 PG188 GearMotor (fc14-072) 15 1 15 fc14-096 Indicator, rectangular, amber (fc14-096) 5 1 5 fc14-064 12" Lazy Susan (fc14-064) 5 1 5 fc14-044 Bushing Mount Miniature Toggle, SP, on-off-on (fc14-044) 5 1 5 |
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Slow going, but got everything ordered.
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Just got our confirmation, took 12 minutes. We purchased a cRio, a breakout board and compressor. A little slow, but it was expected. Great job AndyMark!
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857 managed to pick up a pair of Talons. Site was slow to get to checkout, but once there, ticked along smoothly (if a tad slowly).
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Done!
Thanks AndyMark, I hope the Renny Express Delivery method is quick to deliver. ;) |
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Perfect! Yes, a little bit slow, but reasonable and (yay!) 100% success.
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15 minutes start to finish.
Thanks AndyMark and FIRST and all mentors for our patience and perseverance. Now, about that game hint……. And where's the encrypted manual? :) |
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Team 4301 is done and the site ran smoothly, if a bit slow.
Our order: 2X Talon SR 2X Cordless Screwdriver Kit 2X Adjustable wrench 2X Locking pliers Again, congratulations, Andymark, on a job well done! |
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Out in about 15 minutes, latency was unnerving, but in the end, it all worked.
- Sunny G. |
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Got everything we wanted, smooth sailing. Thanks AndyMark!
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I hope everything worked for us, didn't get an order confirmation. It just hung up on the submit order page, but when I clicked submit it told me my cart was empty. Our credits went away, so I hope it worked!
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Took a while, but we got what we wanted. Thanks AndyMark.
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Woop! Got everything on our high priority list (2x talons, compressor, Festo kit).
Obviously, great work Andy and team on getting your issues resolved well enough to process orders. One note, I had a few issues trying to enter the country/state combination for billing. It would keep trying to jump around on the list, display the wrong list for the choice, etc. I would imagine that if the selection of a country was resulting in a server call for information, the number of users could cause this to behave erratically. This was on a Chrome browser by the way. Perhaps for next go around, this could be an area to optimize? It took ~3 minutes before I could get "United States - Texas" entered, and I was pretty worried about timing out the shopping cart. Thanks for all your hard work! |
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Success.
Thanks AndyMark and FIRST for this opportunity. FIRST class. |
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Andy
System worked great today - thank you for setting the bar for grace under pressure - really appreciate you and your team's work. We are looking forward to building with the cRio, pneumatics solenoids, and the transmissions - the flexibility of FIRST Choice is really great! Thank you, Mark |
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I gotta admit a little stress as I watched the countdown clock ticking down below 5 minutes on the final checkout pages, as I stepped through the steps and it didn't refresh when I submitted responses. All in all looks like the available variety and quantities this year made for a pretty good spread. We went for another cRio and a 9403 module, and 2 van door motors (love that motor, wasn't sure how easy they would be to find outside of FIRST choice).
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AHHH, that was better :) Got another cRIO for the new beta bot. Happy Camper.
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I have 5 credits available, but when I try to add something for 5 credits, it tells me not enough credits to add parts...did anyone else have this problem?
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Took about 17 minutes to get 7 items and check out, but I got (almost) everything I wanted, and finished the order successfully.
The one glitch I noticed was on the generator power cable. Although it said it cost "0" credits, I got the red bar telling me I did not have enough credits. I played with removing and adding things back, and it appeared to me that the generator cable actually costs "1" credit in the coding/database behind the scenes, but everything displayed to the user is "0" credit. The total in the shopping cart displayed to the user reflects a cost of "0" credits on that item, but the behind-the-scenes running total seems to indicate it actually costs more. I noticed the cost of this item fluctuate between "0" and "1" credit several times over the last couple weeks, which I thought was odd. Overall, a good shopping experience. Much improved over last year. Thank you AndyMark. I'm really looking forward to the paper detailing what went wrong on the first two rounds, and what the fix was. |
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nevermind, once I deleted the free 3-port extension it worked fine.
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all pneumatic parts for 558, thanks AndyMark for the hard work!
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20 minutes and got all we were looking for! Just a tad bit slow, but works.
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Finished. Shipping came to $24.95 for basic ground.
As a new coach, I have to say that I'd prefer the old way of everyone getting the same kit. I had to rely on students from alst year (their rookie year) for what to order and who knows if it will be useful this year. I am anxious that we will end up without what we need. We are cannibalizing last years robot for electronics and anything else we can use. It wasn't worth saving to show off. |
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The site does not like Explorer 8. Had to relogin with Firefox.
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everything seemed to work well.
we got the items we were hoping for. |
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It worked really well for us the second time (I kicked the power button on my computer the first time)
Nice job Andymark! A few observations-- The first time through, there were 205 talons available and 683 cameras available. The second time through there were 219 talons and 696 cameras. Some people missed the checkout timer The site was slow, but not that slow (less than 10 sec per page), so I don't think that teams missed the checkout timer because the site was too slow. Instead, I'll bet they missed it because they didn't have something (like a credit card) ready to fill out the shipping information. Overall- much better than last year, and the site worked fine for us! |
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Thank you Andy and company!
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We try to go for the basics that we know we will use - a new classmate, pneumatic components, etc. |
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It took me 13 minutes to order and at the end can't order because of a payment error. I won't tell you what I feel with that first choice stuff..!"$?%&*)(
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