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Hallry 30-12-2013 14:21

[FRC Blog] Kickoff Broadcast and Game Hint Redux
 
Posted on the FRC Blog, 12/30/13: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ame-Hint-Redux

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Kickoff Broadcast and Game Hint Redux

Blog Date: Monday, December 30, 2013 - 13:35

Watching the Kickoff Broadcast

If you’re not attending a local Kickoff and want to watch the broadcast, it can be found at http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics.../kickoff-2014/. The stream may be up and down for the next week or so as various formats and options are tested. You can click on the "Webcast Flash Backup Stream" if you get a "Playlist could not be loaded" error from the Primary Stream. NASA is currently streaming the NASA-TV Education satellite feed to that encoder.

2014 Game Hint Redux

I’ve been checking in on the posts on Chief Delphi about the hint we released a few weeks ago.

You may want to take a look at the ‘Frank Answers Fridays’ post that included some information about game hints here (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...idays-11112013). The reason I said ‘we don’t spend too much time on this’ is because we don’t spend too much time on this. Some folks on the GDC honestly thought the hint this year was going to be too easy. Admittedly, we made a few tweaks to the hint after those statements were made, but I didn’t think the tweaks obscured things excessively. I must have been wrong about that.

We did, however, on double checking, find that the first set of numbers in the hint contained a potential error, or at least data we can't verify at this point. We aren’t saying it’s wrong, we’re just not 100% sure it’s right. So maybe we should have spent a little more time on this one! Sorry about that. As compensation, we're replacing that set of numbers with a new set that should get you to the same answer. We've also reformatted some of the numbers to hopefully make them a little more familiar. Here's the updated hint:

61474:135, 12661:1963, 32662:15806

From what I've seen on CD, folks are trying far too hard on this. Once you get the answer, it will be so obvious I expect some reactions like this*:



Frank

*Doctor Who is not a hint. I just happen to enjoy the show.

[Please don’t take my saying Doctor Who is not a hint to mean it really is a hint. It’s really not a hint]

[[Please don’t take my saying Doctor Who really is not a hint to mean it really really is a hint. It’s really really not a hint]]

[[[etc]]]

Anupam Goli 30-12-2013 14:22

Re: [FRC Blog] Kickoff Broadcast and Game Hint Redux
 
Due to what will likely be game hint discussion in this thread, we should move this to the rumors subforum.

Calvin Hartley 30-12-2013 14:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank
From what I've seen on CD, folks are trying far too hard on this.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

phantokidd7x 30-12-2013 14:32

Updated 2014 Game Hint
 
I happened to be on Facebook today and the first post that I saw was that FIRST updated their blog HERE today with info on Kickoff and the game hint. Here's what they said:

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Admittedly, we made a few tweaks to the hint after those statements were made, but I didn’t think the tweaks obscured things excessively. I must have been wrong about that.

We did, however, on double checking, find that the first set of numbers in the hint contained a potential error, or at least data we can't verify at this point. We aren’t saying it’s wrong, we’re just not 100% sure it’s right. So maybe we should have spent a little more time on this one! Sorry about that. As compensation, we're replacing that set of numbers with a new set that should get you to the same answer. We've also reformatted some of the numbers to hopefully make them a little more familiar. Here's the updated hint:

61474:135, 12661:1963, 32662:15806

From what I've seen on CD, folks are trying far too hard on this. Once you get the answer, it will be so obvious I expect some reactions like this*:


Frank

*Doctor Who is not a hint. I just happen to enjoy the show.

[Please don’t take my saying Doctor Who is not a hint to mean it really is a hint. It’s really not a hint]

[[Please don’t take my saying Doctor Who really is not a hint to mean it really really is a hint. It’s really really not a hint]]

[[[etc]]]
What do you guys think?

Whippet 30-12-2013 14:33

Re: [FRC Blog] Kickoff Broadcast and Game Hint Redux
 
Quote:

a little more familiar.
We've seen these numbers before?!?

Team 135 is the Black Knights, and team 1963 was PSC robotics. 135 is from Indiana, and 1963 was from England. No luck there.

Hallry 30-12-2013 14:34

Re: Updated 2014 Game Hint
 
I think that we already have a thread about this here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=123823. This thread can be closed/deleted.

yarden.saa 30-12-2013 14:46

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It's not funny to change the hint, they laugh from where they sit::ouch::

cadandcookies 30-12-2013 14:47

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I just want to point out that I'm relatively sure that that gif is from "Waters of Mars," the 2009 Dr. Who autumn special.

It takes place on Mars when a virus that creates water infects the first (human) martian colony.

(edit: just realized it's from 2009)

coalhot 30-12-2013 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yarden.saa (Post 1318388)
It's not funny to change the hint, they laugh from where they sit::ouch::


fsgond 30-12-2013 14:54

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Woot Woot, 135!

Zuelu562 30-12-2013 14:55

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Porting my (and George1902's) Findings to here:

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Using the idea that the first number (EDIT: Of each pair) is a date, I searched June 14, 1974, December 6, 1961 (Could be January 26, '61 however), and March 26, 1962.

Those dates yielded some interesting results. June 14th '74 was the date Nolan Ryan stuck out 19 Red Sox in 12 innings. December 6, 1961 was the day the Heisman was awarded in that particular year. March 26 1962 was the birthday of several athletes, covering Baseball, basketball and soccer, and was the day the inventor of wax paper died.

January 26, 1961 (the alternative option to Dec 6 61) was the day Elvis Presley's hit "Are you lonesome tonight?" peaked to #1, and is the birthday of Hockey great Wayne Gretzky.

Lots of references to sports.
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Wayne Gretzky holds the regular season record for career assists: 1963.

John Stockton holds this record in basketball: 15806.
John Stockton was the basketball player born on 3/26/62.

EDIT: Steve Ralston, Born June 14, 1974, is the all-time career leader in assists in the MLS at 135.

3 Sports references, all different sports, all have the "assist" as a tracked statistic. Something to do with assists methinks.

GCDelp 30-12-2013 14:56

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Originally Posted by George1902 (Post 1318390)
Steve Ralston, born 6-14-74, holds the MLS record for assists: 135.

Wayne Gretzky, born 1-26-61, holds NHL record for career assists: 1963.

John Stockton, born 3-26-62, holds the NBA assists record: 15806.

I was beat to it a bit in the other thread, but it looks like we have a pattern of assisting going on.

Hallry 30-12-2013 14:57

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If you search the first set of the updated numbers, 61474:135, on Google, you get an Aircraft Part:

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TRIPLE TACHYMETRIC INDICATOR, Part No. 61474-135-1
Source: http://www.aerosup.com/THALES-AVIONI...474-135-1.aspx

No hits for the second or third sets of the updated numbers, though.

George1902 30-12-2013 14:58

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And to solve the unsolvable first clue...

Landon Donovan, born 3-4-82, holds the all-time US Soccer assists record: 57.

bduddy 30-12-2013 14:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by George1902 (Post 1318405)
And to solve the unsolvable first clue...

Landon Donovan, born 3-4-82, holds the all-time US Soccer assists record: 57.

Yup, this is it. We're done here, guys.

Zuelu562 30-12-2013 15:01

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Now that we've figured out Assists is the clue, what can we infer about the game from "assists" or "assisting"?

peronis 30-12-2013 15:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by George1902 (Post 1318405)
And to solve the unsolvable first clue...

Landon Donovan, born 3-4-82, holds the all-time US Soccer assists record: 57.

I think we got it!

malanis 30-12-2013 15:01

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THREE sports. you have to build your robot to use only one of the three kinds of game pieces. you have to assist each other, and hopefully have one basketball, one soccer, and one hockey playing robot.

GCDelp 30-12-2013 15:01

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So now that we realize the game has to do with assisting, time to speculate on what we're going to be assisting with. Assist the other team, maybe? Are we going to see coopertition points returning?

Hallry 30-12-2013 15:02

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I agree with GCDelp, and I definitely think George1902 is really on to something with this assist data:

Quote:

Originally Posted by George1902 (Post 1318390)
Steve Ralston, born 6-14-74, holds the MLS record for assists: 135.

Wayne Gretzky, born 1-26-61, holds NHL record for career assists: 1963.

John Stockton, born 3-26-62, holds the NBA assists record: 15806.

Seems to fit the updated numbers, 61474:135, 12661:1963, 32662:15806, perfectly.

Assist = return of Coopertition. Boom. Done. (:P)

Steven Donow 30-12-2013 15:02

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Return of the Coopertition bonus!:D

Dustin Shadbolt 30-12-2013 15:02

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I seriously think hint is solved. Sports(maybe) and assisting being a big part of it. GG.

Christian751 30-12-2013 15:03

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Angels' Nolan Ryan strikes out 19 Red Sox in 12 innings on 14th June 1974.

Anthony4004 30-12-2013 15:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GCDelp (Post 1318413)
So now that we realize the game has to do with assisting, time to speculate on what we're going to be assisting with. Assist the other team, maybe? Are we going to see coopertition points returning?

I would personally LOVE another coop game. It usually makes the endgame a LOT more interesting to watch....and drive :D

Andrew Lawrence 30-12-2013 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DevenStonow (Post 1318415)
Return of the Coopertition bonus!:D

I don't know if assist would mean the bringing back of coopertition (especially after it's not so positive reception), but maybe a need to assist your alliance partners. Most games can be played by a single robot by itself - maybe now you really need your teammates to score big.

Josh Drake 30-12-2013 15:04

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That was easy, so assist
maybe a balancing bridge again....

Twins Inc. 30-12-2013 15:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank
As compensation, we're replacing that set of numbers with a new set that should get you to the same answer

But these numbers lead to the same answer even though they've been changed. Its just that this new set of numbers makes finding the hint easier. SO its probably not any dates, records, or specific numbers. I don't know what it is; BUT it has to lead to the same thing, regardless of specific numbers.

Anthony4004 30-12-2013 15:05

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Well there we go. Hint solved in about 10 min. Nice. So how will this tie to the poem that was posted? Just to make sure we take in all angles, and better our chance of being correct.

GCDelp 30-12-2013 15:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1318414)
I agree with GCDelp, and I definitely think George1902 is really on to something with this assist data:
-snip-

I can't take much credit. George beat me to it by a few minutes in the other thread. Good on him though!

And yeah, coopertition sounds fun, but we still don't know too much about the true nature of the game. At least the GDC was kind to us!

kk_4849 30-12-2013 15:06

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According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assist it seems as though assisting is a pass that results in scoring. Maybe we'll have to pass game pieces between robots in our alliance?

Big Kid 30-12-2013 15:06

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All those sports also involve scoring their game pieces in a type of net. Just my additional 2 cents.

nicholsjj 30-12-2013 15:06

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SO we have the birth dates of:

Two Soccer all-time assist leaders: 2010 Game

The basketball all-time assist leader: 2012 Game

And the greatest hockey player/ all-time assist leader: 2014? Game

The pattern would be over a two year gap. This is very simple and straightforward. The U.S. Men"s world cup soccer team will also be led by Donovan. The Winter Olympics are being held in 2014, and it is the 75 anniversary of American Hockey.

Thanks George and GCDelp for pointing me in this direction. I am probably wrong though :)

Andrew Lawrence 30-12-2013 15:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tondogone (Post 1318423)
Well there we go. Hint solved in about 10 min. Nice. So how will this tie to the poem that was posted? Just to make sure we take in all angles, and better our chance of being correct.

Don't be so quick to think the hint is solved. Just because there's something that *may* make sense out of a small bit of information doesn't mean it's the only solution.

Littleboy 30-12-2013 15:07

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Maybe there are different zones and there is a limit on how many robots can be in a zone at once. Robots would have to assist each other in scoring because they all can't score at once.


Or maybe the 2007 ramps are being brought back.

Anthony4004 30-12-2013 15:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nicholsjj (Post 1318427)
SO we have the birth dates of:

Two Soccer all-time assist leaders: 2010 Game

The basketball all-time assist leader: 2012 Game

And the greatest hockey player/ all-time assist leader: 2014? Game

The pattern would be over a two year gap. This is very simple and straightforward. The U.S. Men"s world cup soccer team will also be led by Donovan. The Winter Olympics are being held in 2014, and it is the 75 anniversary of American Hockey.

This sounds accurate. There is no way to possibly win (easily) in hockey without assisting.

Scott_4140 30-12-2013 15:10

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From Wikipedia

Several sports have a statistic known as an "assist", generally relating to action by a player leading to a score by another player on their team:
Assist (basketball), a pass by a player that facilitates a basket by another
Assist (ice hockey), a pass by a player or players that helps set up a goal
Assist (football) (soccer), a pass by a player or players that helps set up a goal
Assist in Australian rules football, the last pass by a player that directly helps set up a goal
Assist (baseball), any touching of the ball by a defensive player after it has been hit by the batter and prior to the recording of a putout
Assist in water polo, the last pass by a player that directly helps set up a goal
Assist in ultimate, a pass by a player on which a goal is scored.


Pass seems to be the key here.

--Scott

Josh Drake 30-12-2013 15:10

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Foosball
:D

Jarren Harkema 30-12-2013 15:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twins Inc. (Post 1318422)
But these numbers lead to the same answer even though they've been changed. Its just that this new set of numbers makes finding the hint easier. SO its probably not any dates, records, or specific numbers. I don't know what it is; BUT it has to lead to the same thing, regardless of specific numbers.

Hello, I'm new here, but been following the game hints thread since it started. I have to agree with this. Both the old numbers and the new numbers have to some how come to a similar solution. I think we need to start looking at the numbers as if they are not numbers...

Anthony4004 30-12-2013 15:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarren Harkema (Post 1318434)
Hello, I'm new here, but been following the game hints thread since it started. I have to agree with this. Both the old numbers and the new numbers have to some how come to a similar solution. I think we need to start looking at the numbers as if they are not numbers...

And we also need to tie in the poem that was posted on twitter.

Andrew Lawrence 30-12-2013 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Littleboy (Post 1318430)
Maybe there are different zones and there is a limit on how many robots can be in a zone at once. Robots would have to assist each other in scoring because they all can't score at once.

I think this is the most likely scenario. Something like 2010 where you're limited to how many robots are in a zone at once.

MechEng83 30-12-2013 15:14

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Game name: Triple Assist.

JohnSchneider 30-12-2013 15:15

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If "Pass" is the important word we may see something like Breakaway, where most teams will need to move the ball from their zone for their partner to score.

ebmonon36 30-12-2013 15:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarren Harkema (Post 1318434)
Hello, I'm new here, but been following the game hints thread since it started. I have to agree with this. Both the old numbers and the new numbers have to some how come to a similar solution. I think we need to start looking at the numbers as if they are not numbers...

They do come to the same solution. The original numbers were written using the date format of year/month/date. The new numbers were written in the date format of month/day/year. The first number changed to make it look more like a date instead of a random number.

vanjan14 30-12-2013 15:18

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Obviously this will be the game piece, combining Soccer balls and hockey pucks!
http://www.amazon.com/Spin-Master-To...pr_product_top

George1902 30-12-2013 15:18

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Basketballs, soccer balls, and pucks (see 1999) have all been used in FRC games in the past. Perhaps we will see the return of one or all of these elements?

Never has an FRC game required robots to transfer scoring objects between them, probably because it's so difficult. In fact, instances where it has happened are remembered as epic (see the "A-bomb" of 2006 and 16's elegant assist 'bot of 2012).

FRC games have had robots cooperating using their drive trains (climbing obstacles, balancing bridges, climbing and lifting each other). This is a more realistic type of assisting and one that I expect to see.

thursam 30-12-2013 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MechEng83 (Post 1318438)
Game name: Triple Assist.

This seems like something the GDC would come up with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarren Harkema (Post 1318434)
Hello, I'm new here, but been following the game hints thread since it started. I have to agree with this. Both the old numbers and the new numbers have to some how come to a similar solution. I think we need to start looking at the numbers as if they are not numbers...

I've been following the hints since they were posted as well, like Jarren - with the last set of numbers, people were running rampant with theories because they were thinking about them like NUMBERS. Last year, for Ultimate Ascent, the GDC released a random string of numbers that ended up being letters.

If you treat the numbers clues like letters, then maybe it WILL connect to the poem.

TAlholm 30-12-2013 15:20

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This could be the addition of a possible "offsides" penalty...

bduddy 30-12-2013 15:21

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I think the GDC is going to come out with a game that encourages/requires passing of game pieces between robots. This has been theoretically possible and beneficial in many previous games, but never really done to any great extent (except for autonomous in 2012, which isn't really the same thing...) I think it will be fun to see what they came up with.

(This probably also maintains the ball/not-ball pattern, because it's pretty hard to pass things that aren't balls...)

Anthony4004 30-12-2013 15:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MechEng83 (Post 1318438)
Game name: Triple Assist.

That could sounds really cool.....

XaulZan11 30-12-2013 15:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by George1902 (Post 1318442)
Never has an FRC game required robots to transfer scoring objects between them, probably because it's so difficult. In fact, instances where it has happened are remembered as epic (see the "A-bomb" of 2006 and 16's elegant assist 'bot of 2012).

Don't forget about the countless instances of teams transfering basketballs during autonomous in 2012.

Isaac501 30-12-2013 15:24

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Aaaand just because it's ridiculous..

google images: limerick hockey

There's an underwater hockey team in Limerick, Ireland.


WATER GAME.

Jay O'Donnell 30-12-2013 15:24

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I'm assuming that assist is just a hint towards the general game (hockey or a combo of sports) and not a specific of the game. 2012 was called REBOUND rumble, and yet I don't remember any teams rebounding like they do in real basketball (catching it before it hits the ground). Due to basketball and soccer being recent games, I'm thinking Hockey.

bearbot 30-12-2013 15:26

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It be cool to see FIRST combine older games into a new game.Might be a ramp we have to climb on to and lift our teammates up for the endgame.The water bottles seem to resemble a ramp

Anthony4004 30-12-2013 15:26

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I'm just going to say that I'd prefer the game be about baseball rather than hockey simply due to the fact that balls are a lot easier to handle than pucks. Also pucks have been used in the past, plus the ball pattern. Baseball:D

maxwellt 30-12-2013 15:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nicholsjj (Post 1318427)
SO we have the birth dates of:

Two Soccer all-time assist leaders: 2010 Game

The basketball all-time assist leader: 2012 Game

And the greatest hockey player/ all-time assist leader: 2014? Game

The pattern would be over a two year gap. This is very simple and straightforward. The U.S. Men"s world cup soccer team will also be led by Donovan. The Winter Olympics are being held in 2014, and it is the 75 anniversary of American Hockey.

Thanks George and GCDelp for pointing me in this direction. I am probably wrong though :)

I think that it might be on the lines of a Hockey game one because of the up coming Olympics, and if you think about it is a sport they haven't done yet (they have done nascar, basketball, soccer, ultimate Frisbee just to name a few) , and could I also start the speculation of bringing back the regolith field???? :ahh:

George1902 30-12-2013 15:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1318447)
Don't forget about the countless instances of teams transfering basketballs during autonomous in 2012.

Excellent point. But it was still an impressive feat when it happened and hardly the norm. Even when the robots were hand-aligned.

Isaac501 30-12-2013 15:30

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Though in some seriousness:
Going on the Hockey tangent, and the limerick:

rhyming with assist yields twist.
"twist assist" is a Dutch product for field hockey.
It's sort of elongated bearing put around the stick.

malanis 30-12-2013 15:34

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Woody just posted this huge thing on coopertition for this year. thought id throw that out

wt200999 30-12-2013 15:35

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They seem to be stressing 3's a lot, as well as hockey and maybe Olympics.

What other sport is played on Ice, and has something to do with 3?

Curling does!

In curling the Third is in charge of helping with strategy at the end of the game.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...ling-team.html

Kevin Thorp 30-12-2013 15:35

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I'll just leave this here...


Anthony Galea 30-12-2013 15:36

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I think we have an advantage; our workspace is in a hockey arena. :D

RedViBritannia 30-12-2013 15:37

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Hey all! Sorry if any of this has been seen already, but a bunch of things just clicked in my head and I want to get them out. Also, I had posted this in the other thread but saw that one was abandoned, sorry to repeat!

I knocked the ratios down to decimal numbers, and I got(assuming I did my math right):

455.36, 6.45, and 2.07

Since there are 3 numbers, they could not possibly be used for coordinates, so I had to think, 'what else could we use these decimal numbers for?'.

Then I saw the Dr Who image, so I started thinking about Tennant's run.

Then I thought about The Library. The Dewey Decimal System.

Looking up those numbers, this is the categories that they reference:

455.36: Basic Grammar, specifically, Italian (probably irrelevant, that last bit)

6.45 is acoustical pattern recognition, and the only classification in the DDS below that is Speech Recognition (!!!!!). Consider the new abilities of the Microsoft Kinect 2.0 (then again, it is built into the system so...)

2.07 was just meta-book stuff. Not sure what to make of it.

So there's that. I might be way off, but it's something at least, right?

EDIT: Wow I'm way late to this party and off by about 400 miles. Solid work guys.

fimmel 30-12-2013 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwellt (Post 1318453)
and could I also start the speculation of bringing back the regolith field???? :ahh:

Yes! Us norther teams might do well again! Especially after this years ice storms.

JRuegsegger 30-12-2013 15:38

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I think this is fitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbRdDhYFGSw

thursam 30-12-2013 15:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by malanis (Post 1318456)
Woody just posted this huge thing on coopertition for this year. thought id throw that out

One of my teachers always says that there is no such thing as a coincidence.

sanddrag 30-12-2013 15:40

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What happened to the thread titled "[FRC Twitter] 2014 Game Hint 2" with a thread ID of 123822 ? It just up and vanished within the last hour. No signs of it being merged. Did I solve the poem correctly, and thus it was deleted? I put a considerable amount of time into my post, and ow it is gone. :( They're conspiring against us...

DavisC 30-12-2013 15:41

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Well if you consider the sport->no sport pattern it doesn't make since to be a sport (assuming ultimate Frisbee is a sport).

What if it is regolith with trailers again but you score on your OWN team's trailer.

kk_4849 30-12-2013 15:45

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It is possible that they could bring back the Regolith (or something similar), especially if it is a hockey game.

JohnSchneider 30-12-2013 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DavisC (Post 1318468)
Well if you consider the sport->no sport pattern it doesn't make since to be a sport (assuming ultimate Frisbee is a sport).

What if it is regolith with trailers again but you score on your OWN team's trailer.

You would have to assume frisbee ISN'T a sport for that to be correct

malanis 30-12-2013 15:47

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"Well if you consider the sport->no sport pattern it doesn't make since to be a sport (assuming ultimate Frisbee is a sport).

What if it is regolith with trailers again but you score on your OWN team's trailer."

honestly, they can do whatever they want. they don't have to follow any patterns

DavisC 30-12-2013 15:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by malanis (Post 1318471)
honestly, they can do whatever they want. they don't have to follow any patterns

True but i remember how last year everyone had assumed no sport because of the pattern but everyone was surprised by ultimate Frisbee because it broke it.

I just doubt them doing that twice in a row.

Littleboy 30-12-2013 15:50

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If it is a hockey game, 174 predicted the future and built a robot for 2014 last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJzqWTVHR7k

atucker4072 30-12-2013 15:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DavisC (Post 1318468)
Well if you consider the sport->no sport pattern it doesn't make since to be a sport (assuming ultimate Frisbee is a sport).

What if it is regolith with trailers again but you score on your OWN team's trailer.

I wouldn't be too sure on that... that would make it so that one team just sits there and has balls dumped into their trailer and I don't think the GDC would want that to happen.

malanis 30-12-2013 15:53

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FRC is almost at the point of spectator sport. the games are becoming more "fun to watch" because the more interesting it is, the more people who want to get involved. I think this years game is going to take that to a whole new level.

CJay 30-12-2013 15:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1318466)
What happened to the thread titled "[FRC Twitter] 2014 Game Hint 2" with a thread ID of 123822 ? It just up and vanished within the last hour. No signs of it being merged. Did I solve the poem correctly, and thus it was deleted? I put a considerable amount of time into my post, and ow it is gone. :( They're conspiring against us...

That was my post, I deleted it because it seems as if that was not actually a hint. I realized that it is more likely just referring to the blog post that is being discussed on this thread. Sorry for taking it down with no explanation...

Andrew Lawrence 30-12-2013 15:53

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If FRC is the varsity sport for the mind, isn't every year a sport?

Game Hint Enthusiasts: 0 - GDC: 1

TurretPunchLove 30-12-2013 15:56

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I'd bet on ice hockey; the trend of assists and sports in the game hint have led us to this, and we still have 1963 in the game hint. We still have the 2009 Doctor Who clip, which was from a somewhat lunar-related challenge. I'm thinking ice hockey is the most likely simply because of the references that seem to point towards lunacy (ice surface?) and the trend in sports within the given hint.

kk_4849 30-12-2013 15:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by atucker4072 (Post 1318474)
I wouldn't be too sure on that... that would make it so that one team just sits there and has balls dumped into their trailer and I don't think the GDC would want that to happen.

That's where I can see "assisting" coming into play. We'd have to pass things to each other.

DampRobot 30-12-2013 15:59

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My guess: some sort of "the best of FRC" style game, alla 2004, where 2012's basketballs, 2010's soccer balls, and 2009's moon rocks are all game pieces.

peronis 30-12-2013 15:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by malanis (Post 1318456)
Woody just posted this huge thing on coopertition for this year. thought id throw that out

Where was this posted?

DavisC 30-12-2013 15:59

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Could make the objects large enought that each trailer can hole like 2-3 and have a place on the ends where they can be dumped

atucker4072 30-12-2013 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kk_4849 (Post 1318480)
That's where I can see "assisting" coming into play. We'd have to pass things to each other.

I don't see how teams would assist each other in this case. Could you explain it better?

malanis 30-12-2013 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peronis (Post 1318482)
Where was this posted?

I remember seeing it on Facebook when i woke up this morning, might be nothing.

Anthony4004 30-12-2013 16:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1318466)
What happened to the thread titled "[FRC Twitter] 2014 Game Hint 2" with a thread ID of 123822 ? It just up and vanished within the last hour. No signs of it being merged. Did I solve the poem correctly, and thus it was deleted? I put a considerable amount of time into my post, and ow it is gone. :( They're conspiring against us...

What was your solution?

Michael Corsetto 30-12-2013 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DampRobot (Post 1318481)
2009's moon rocks are all game pieces.

I'd estimate there are barely enough moon rocks in existence to stock a 2009 field. To say those we're "hard to find" would be putting it lightly, and even if you did have some, they broke if a strong gust of wind passed through the room. I'm pretty sure they were discontinued? Regardless, those will go down in history as one of the worst game pieces ever.

kk_4849 30-12-2013 16:06

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If you google, you find that Wayne Gretzky (a hockey player) holds the record for the most assists (1,963 total).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Gretzky

malanis 30-12-2013 16:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto (Post 1318488)
I'd estimate there are barely enough moon rocks in existence to stock a 2009 field. To say those we're "hard to find" would be putting it lightly, and even if you did have some, they broke if a strong gust of wind passed through the room. I'm pretty sure they were discontinued? Regardless, those will go down in history as one of the worst game pieces ever.

we still have a full robot full:3

The_ShamWOW88 30-12-2013 16:08

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May have nothing to do with physically assisting with a score or pass in the traditional sense but they might be planning something particular for Autonomous mode or the game itself that requires assistance from the camera or some other means rather than just suggesting it.

Just some thoughts.

Anthony4004 30-12-2013 16:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by malanis (Post 1318475)
FRC is almost at the point of spectator sport. the games are becoming more "fun to watch" because the more interesting it is, the more people who want to get involved. I think this years game is going to take that to a whole new level.

I SOOO agree with this. After all, at the Championship Dean was very adamant about how he so happy to see how much the word has gotten out to people over the last year about FIRST. After all, they even made the new award for Will for Making It Loud.

Jarren Harkema 30-12-2013 16:09

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All the dates and links to sports still don't explain the numbers after the colons in each of the 3 number sets...

Edit: Well, ok, so the numbers by themselves reference different things related to sports, but none are related, and they aren't related to the date they are paired with.

malanis 30-12-2013 16:12

Re: [FRC Blog] Kickoff Broadcast and Game Hint Redux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarren Harkema (Post 1318494)
All the dates and links to sports still don't explain the numbers after the colons in each of the 3 number sets...

Edit: Well, ok, so the numbers by themselves reference different things related to sports, but none are related, and they aren't related to the date they are paired with.

.... they are the number of assists those people had.

JohnSchneider 30-12-2013 16:13

Re: [FRC Blog] Kickoff Broadcast and Game Hint Redux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarren Harkema (Post 1318494)
All the dates and links to sports still don't explain the numbers after the colons in each of the 3 number sets...

Edit: Well, ok, so the numbers by themselves reference different things related to sports, but none are related, and they aren't related to the date they are paired with.

The birth date of the player who holds the record for assisnts + ":" + The record for number of assists in that sport

The colon implies relationship whereas the "/" made it a ratio

kk_4849 30-12-2013 16:13

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Wayne Gretzky, a hockey player born on 1/26/1961, holds the record for total assists made (1963 total).

billylo 30-12-2013 16:14

Re: [FRC Blog] Kickoff Broadcast and Game Hint Redux
 
Air Hockey?

- with three zones, just like ice hockey
- with three pucks;
- with three teams on each alliance

Air Hockey is great, because it's very fast paced. Maybe on teflon sheets?

Jarren Harkema 30-12-2013 16:14

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Get it now, sorry for my slowness.

mrnoble 30-12-2013 16:15

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Go to work for a few hours, and this is what happens.

Nice work, those of you who figured out the "assist" clue. I've been all pumped about trying to find ways to get our robot below 90 lbs this year; I guess that won't be a problem now (or will it?).

I just hope they don't bring back the mandatory wheels! "Regolith" (or cheap bathroom panelling) was nasty, but more importantly, many of us gambled on not taking the KOP this year. If it's just about gear boxes and c-channel, fine, but if there is a MANDATORY part that we just won't have unless we order it (all at the same time, just like 2009), that will be hell.

I'm still leaning toward baseball rather than hockey. And if it's hockey, may it be with carpet and a wheeled puck! I want to use Colsons!

atucker4072 30-12-2013 16:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by billylo (Post 1318499)
Air Hockey?

- with three zones, just like ice hockey
- with three pucks;
- with three teams on each alliance

Air Hockey is great, because it's very fast paced. Maybe on teflon sheets?

It would probably be regolith. They used it in 2009.

Anthony4004 30-12-2013 16:18

Re: [FRC Blog] Kickoff Broadcast and Game Hint Redux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atucker4072 (Post 1318502)
It would probably be regolith. They used it in 2009.

There were SO many problems with regolith that they would have to be insane to use it again.

jlmcmchl 30-12-2013 16:19

Re: [FRC Blog] Kickoff Broadcast and Game Hint Redux
 
Ignore post; It has been solved on page 1.

atucker4072 30-12-2013 16:21

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Back to assists... what are ways that robots would assist each other to score?


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